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alp227

(32,084 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:35 AM Jun 2012

Chris Cillizza: Obama’s political gaffe will be fodder in general election

Hmm. Is Cillizza clueless or concern trolling? After making the point that the Romney campaign would be overplaying Obama's "private sector is doing fine" comment in campaign ads all the way 'til November, Cillizza compares Obama's statement to other statements by the previous two losing presidential candidates:

In 2004, the Democratic nominee, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), responded to a question about opposing funding for military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq by declaring “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.” Republicans pounced (and kept pouncing) on the comment, arguing that it was evidence that Kerry lacked core beliefs and would say and do anything to get elected. The strategy worked as President George W. Bush (R) won a second term despite the fact that the country had already begun to sour on his leadership.

Four years later, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) declared that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” even as the financial sector teetered on the brink of collapse. The Obama campaign seized on the remark as evidence that McCain was badly out of touch and lacked the understanding necessary to help fix what ailed the country.

“John didn’t lose in 2008 because of his comment regarding the fundamentals of the economy alone,” said John Weaver, a senior adviser to the McCain campaign. “However, it did reinforce an image being portrayed by his opposition of being out of touch on such matters. The danger for the president is similar.”


At least someone posted on the comments section the full context (from the full transcript of that press conference):

The truth of the matter is that, as I said, we’ve created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, over 800,000 just this year alone. The private sector is doing fine. Where we’re seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government -- oftentimes, cuts initiated by governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don’t have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in.


This statement was in response to Jackie Calmes of the New York Times.

From the president's opening remarks:

Of course, Congress refused to pass this jobs plan in full. They did act on a few parts of the bill -- most significantly the payroll tax cut that’s putting more money in every working person’s paycheck right now. And I appreciate them taking that action. But they left most of the jobs plan just sitting there. And in light of the headwinds that we’re facing right now, I urge them to reconsider. Because there's steps we can take right now to put more people back to work. They’re not just my ideas; they're not just Democratic ideas -- they’re ideas that independent, nonpartisan economists believe would make a real difference in our economy.

Keep in mind that the private sector has been hiring at a solid pace over the last 27 months. But one of the biggest weaknesses has been state and local governments, which have laid off 450,000 Americans. These are teachers and cops and firefighters. Congress should pass a bill putting them back to work right now, giving help to the states so that those layoffs are not occurring.


And Media Matters reported: "Media Fixation On Obama's Private Sector Remark Diverts Attention From GOP Obstruction On Jobs Bill". Yep, the media took in the right-wing scare tactics hook, line, and sinker. You can that Drudge for that.
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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
3. He has a following, including queen of MSNBC, Andrea Mitchell....
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:39 AM
Jun 2012

but I have to agree, he is a twerp....

 

Marzupialis

(398 posts)
4. Cilliza is the "journalist"...who made a video
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:01 AM
Jun 2012

along with Dana Milbank, calling Hillary Clinton a "mad bitch."

http://www.newser.com/story/66192/post-kills-mouthpiece-video-series-after-hillary-joke.html

The video was pulled by the WaPo. That's some resume there, Mr. "journalist."

JHB

(37,166 posts)
5. Probably, but so what?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:02 AM
Jun 2012

The Republicans are spraying so much complete elephant dung around, one sorta-misstatement gets lost in it.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
6. I love that right after the "gaffe" a report came out
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:25 AM
Jun 2012

that manufacturing was at a 20 year high. That news however, is not widely reported.

 

liberalnationalist

(170 posts)
12. thats is
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jun 2012

because the media is corporate owned, they do not want folks to know that..they want RAw Money to win so they can even screw us more

Bake

(21,977 posts)
9. The private sector is doing better but far from "fine."
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jun 2012

It was a stupid thing for the President to say, and he ought to have known better. Just fucking admit it.

Bake

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
14. Wrong!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jun 2012

Obama was obviously saying that comparing to the public sector, the private is fine (not great)...he repeatedly said that much improvement is needed.

Wall street profits at a record pace and 4 millions jobs created means that the private sector is doing well. Public sector is doing terrible!

Bake

(21,977 posts)
16. Whether he was right or wrong about the state of the private sector
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jun 2012

DOESN'T MATTER.

Yes, profits are up in the private sector. And compared to the public sector, hell yes the private sector is doing MUCH MUCH better.

But unemployment is still extremely high, and corporate profits haven't turned into JOBS. People in the real world are still hurting.

So it was STUPID to say anything that can be turned into a sound bite to look like he's out of touch. To say the private sector is "fine?" Dumb move.

But you'll never admit that. And you are simply WRONG!

Bake

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
10. Think back a month: Remember that big gaffe?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jun 2012

You know, the one that had all the talking heads chattering back then?

No? Me either. Or, more accurately, there have been so many gaffes by so many politicians, even devoted political junkies like us can scarcely remember last week's big buzz, let alone last month's.

The election is 5 months away. The number of voters who will have this particular gaffe on their mind as they cast their ballot no doubt could be counted on one hand.

 

liberalnationalist

(170 posts)
11. chris cilizard
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jun 2012

can go right straigt to hell...the gaff that will keep on giving in Raw Money equating firefighters and teachers with BIG GOVERNMENT....thats the gaff thats going to play over and over again

CBHagman

(16,994 posts)
13. Chris Cillizza is the one still obsessing over John Kerry geting Swiss cheese on his steak sandwich.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jun 2012

He (Cillizza) thinks it showed Kerry was an elitist. Yeah, I'm sure the Great Cheese Debate of 2004 determined the future of our country and not Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-etch-a-sketch-incident-and-why-some-gaffes-catch-on/2012/03/22/gIQA8ob0TS_blog.html

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