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watch this sink (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 OP
We're lucky to get the confrontational meme sometimes. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #1
I work for a local indie nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #2
Which is why Occupy was so brilliant in their planning stages. They had their own media. They sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #3
Interesting article on your blog, and some good points. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #4
Look at yellow press everywhere. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #5
Yes, that is true, people are attracted to sensational stories. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #6
Since I do this now nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #7

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
1. We're lucky to get the confrontational meme sometimes.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jan 2014

Mass media has only 2 default memes for Occupy; Confrontation and Drum circle, pot smoking, Iphone using hipster. But what more could we expect from calcified institutions who only cover mass demonstrations when shamed into doing so by indy media.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Which is why Occupy was so brilliant in their planning stages. They had their own media. They
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jan 2014

recorded every arrest, knowing there would be lies told and people abused etc. And when they got to court, due to those preparations, the lying cops were exposed, right on video and cases were dismissed. Had they relied on the MSM, even if such video existed it would never have been aired.

Also their legal teams, they deserve huge kudos for the time and effort they put in to be there with advice and to represent them when needed.

They used the Internet to get the story out all over the world. They did not rely on the MSM for anything. In fact, I was hoping the MSM would stay away, knowing the bias there would be in the reporting. And they did, for a few days and the world got an accurate accounting of what was happening. Once they did get involved, it was mostly to try to repair the damage, which they by using morons like the Goldman Sachs girl, Erin Brown whose purpose was so transparent, it became a joke as her ties to Wall St. were exposed.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Interesting article on your blog, and some good points.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jan 2014

Sensationalism does sell, because the population is conditioned to it. I wonder how it sells in other countries, like Norway eg where the level of education is so much higher in general? Would people react just as much to articles about protesters feeding the homeless as they would to a photo showing conflict?

I can't answer that without knowing something about the media in other developed countries. Presentation is everything so maybe that aspect of media, how to present something that does not show conflict but is way more important, so that it gets the attention of the public ...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Look at yellow press everywhere.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

And conflict sells. It is a basic element in story telling. Whether I am telling a story with a camera, or a story with words.

Even that haunting picture of the Afghan girl that National Geographic ran a few years ago, the eyes are haunting and tell you things were not easy, ergo conflict. Another example of this is the photo of a Spanish civil war soldier getting shot. It is considered one of the top photos in the history of photo journalism.

Top Awards have Photogs from all over the world. The photos that tend to win accolades are of war zones or disasters.

Now, photo essays are done regularly of other aspects of movements, but usually those are done as essays.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Yes, that is true, people are attracted to sensational stories.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:34 AM
Jan 2014

The NYPD eg, did more to help get OWS media coverage when they maced those women than all the photos of people marching.

Maybe it's the presentation. In a way, anything that is news results from some kind of conflict.

Making a story personal, getting people involved with the subject on a personal level also works.

Being a good story teller is important. But most stories that probably should get more attention are often presented in a very 'professional' way. Eg, 'two OWS protesters were arrested and charged with terrorism'. That is not very interesting. But if the story begins with an introduction to the personalities, who they are, where they grew up etc. people are more likely to be interested, to feel as if they know them.

There are people still paying the price for their participation in OWS eg, but they have mostly been forgotten. Assigning a reporter to follow their stories, to keep them in the news, interview them etc, would help to ensure they are not forgotten. Once the public feels they know someone they are far more likely to remain interested, to want to know what is going on with them.

But most of the time these kinds of stories which are important get a blurb just presenting info on the arrest and all they are to the public is just another suspect.

It's hard because it takes time and effort and money to stay on a story like that. I am using it only as an example of stories that really should not be forgotten and how to get them more attention.

Anyhow, you got me thinking ....

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