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Just posted in GD, but thought you all would like to see it as well. (Original Post) boston bean Feb 2014 OP
This video makes me feel angry. MadrasT Feb 2014 #1
The denial by some of womens experiences boston bean Feb 2014 #3
I just saw that on youtube! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #2
Well.... I think it might have been purposeful. boston bean Feb 2014 #4
Maybe. I just have a knee-jerk reaction cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #5
I hesitate to say this, boston bean Feb 2014 #6
Ah, that might be why I'm cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #7
She did try to assassinate Andy Warhol.. boston bean Feb 2014 #11
That I remember! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #12
i know. here we sit seabeyond Feb 2014 #13
i am going to addressing the video from a different angle. this video is to address seabeyond Feb 2014 #8
as far as the actual material of the video... i think they did an outstanding job, making a man seabeyond Feb 2014 #9
Powerful Stargazer09 Feb 2014 #10
Yeah I saw that one elsewhere ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #14
i noticed... seabeyond Feb 2014 #15
I was just looking around, so I posted something ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #16

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
1. This video makes me feel angry.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

Angry how OBVIOUSLY fucked up it is, the way women are treated in this world, and it only become OBVIOUS to many when the gender roles are reversed.

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
3. The denial by some of womens experiences
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:22 AM
Feb 2014

or the shrugging it off as evolutionary, it maddening. I hope this video helps get the point across.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
2. I just saw that on youtube!
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:21 AM
Feb 2014

I like it that they're trying to make a point, even though they misuse the word feminism in it.

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
4. Well.... I think it might have been purposeful.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

I know it probably wasn't the correct word to use... but the attacks on feminism are often framed this way.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
5. Maybe. I just have a knee-jerk reaction
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

to feminism being used that way, because as you said, there are so many that try to attack feminism by saying "you just want to dominate us!" instead of seeing it as a fight to get equal rights.

But it's a powerful video and I'm glad you posted it. It's bizarre and powerful to see the roles reversed, and it really makes it apparent that we put up with a lot.

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
6. I hesitate to say this,
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:32 AM
Feb 2014

because of the way the SCUM manifesto was discussed here, but this is just a toned down version of that.

I wish the people who found it to be misandrist, could have seen it in the light of what this video portrays. It was meant to be radical and make people feel uncomfortable, just as this video does. There was holy hell to pay for a feminist posting the manifesto here in the group for discussion.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
7. Ah, that might be why I'm
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:41 AM
Feb 2014

reacting the way I did. I haven't read the SCUM manifesto in years, so to be honest I don't remember it well. ( I know. Shame on me!) I'll go find it on google.

It is such a shame that you can't post famous feminist writing in a feminist group without a MRA backlash. I mean, I want to discuss writing like that. I find it incredibly interesting!

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
11. She did try to assassinate Andy Warhol..
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:53 AM
Feb 2014

She had some problems... but I do think there is some value in discussing it from a feminist perspective. This documentary shows the reasons why. It's not like feminists want a world like this. It is exactly opposite of wanting that type of society. But it is a useful tool in describing what the female experience is like and to get others to see the point.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
12. That I remember!
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:59 AM
Feb 2014

I definitely feel like discussing it has merit. She drew on a lot the work of old writers and thinkers, if I am remembering correctly. She just turned their women-hating ideas on its head, and then took things to the radical conclusion.

It's definitely a good tool to use to highlight just how much power is being used against women in today's society. If certain people can't notice it until a man is subjected to it, then watching this short film will benefit them.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. i know. here we sit
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 12:00 PM
Feb 2014

in history of feminism. and we hate to discuss scum... cause of the reaction from men wanting to turn it to misandry, reverse sexism. so we sit quietly. which is pure bullshit.

i was really appreciative that it was posted. and i think it is so well done, on expressing the reversal of the roles. could be a huge light bulb moment for so many. as a matter of fact. you remind me and i think i will have both boys read it and we can discuss. thanks.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. i am going to addressing the video from a different angle. this video is to address
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:44 AM
Feb 2014

the misogyny. thru out the video they put the man in the womans position. yet.... the front picture is of course a woman with her tits bare. all the video for a front screen shot, all the moments where the man is in the vulnerable position, there forefront on this feminist video, expressing the opposite in oppression has the woman bare.

over the years, i have seen the still shots of videos, after videos.... and inevitable, is there is a tit shot, an ass shot, a stripper shot, that is what is on the front in still. way beyond coincidence. i have see where it is a stripper on the front, watch a 20 minute video, only for there to be a nano sec flash, yet that was what was picked up to be on the front, even though none of the story was about strippers.

this video, that is pro woman, (though i get the point of women being bared chested and running) did exactly what we do over and over and over .... so the men will click on the video. naked women sell. and this video, that was supposing to be addressing all that, went right there.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. as far as the actual material of the video... i think they did an outstanding job, making a man
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:47 AM
Feb 2014

vulnerable to a group of women. that is very hard to do, when we have had forever oppression of women, not men. i think they did an excellent job. i do not think it will make the men feel vulnerable, maybe it the pinching testicles and biting dick. otherwise, merely feels like a womans vulnerability, with role reversal. a not gonna happen.

interesting video though.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
10. Powerful
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:48 AM
Feb 2014

It really does a good job of showing everything we go through, even things we don't think about because they are so ingrained in our lives.

ismnotwasm

(42,023 posts)
14. Yeah I saw that one elsewhere
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:34 PM
Feb 2014

I wouldn't post it at Du because boobs, but it has a very interesting perspective

By the way I'm severely restricting my participation on DU.

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