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who is the toughest woman in history? (Original Post) mopinko Jun 2012 OP
Joan Of Arc. Texasgal Jun 2012 #1
Joan of Arc? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #2
gonna look for more. this was fun seabeyond Jun 2012 #3
anne bonny mopinko Jun 2012 #7
see... i knew that would be it. still looking though. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #14
great list of fascinating women, thank you! Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #9
you are welcome. this is fun. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #15
Queen Elizabeth I of England was no slouch. shraby Jun 2012 #4
She gets my vote Siwsan Jun 2012 #27
Or, maybe from mythology? longship Jun 2012 #5
Aung San Suu Kyi Onlooker Jun 2012 #6
Looks like an Eleanor to me. n/t BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #8
Not sure about *the* toughest, but I'd include Boudica among them. redqueen Jun 2012 #10
i like this one, too. mopinko Jun 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Jun 2012 #16
Queen Nanny RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #12
like mopinko Jun 2012 #22
a few more seabeyond Jun 2012 #13
Carrie Nation OregonBlue Jun 2012 #17
much as i love me some angry, axe wielding woman, i just can't mopinko Jun 2012 #20
LOL. The poster was looking for the "toughest" woman. I don't agree with her sentiments but you OregonBlue Jul 2012 #66
Eleanor of Aquitaine Warpy Jun 2012 #18
Mine, too! PassingFair Jun 2012 #19
That is my favorite portrait of Elizabeth Siwsan Jun 2012 #29
no i need to watch "lion in winter" again. mopinko Jun 2012 #21
last of it seabeyond Jun 2012 #23
calamity jane hits a little close to home. mopinko Jun 2012 #24
Nancy Pelosi aaaaaa5a Jun 2012 #25
dammit, there was a woman during henry IIIV. forgot name pansypoo53219 Jun 2012 #26
athletes seabeyond Jun 2012 #28
Mildred Ella "Babe" Didrikson Zaharias may be the most underrated great athlete aaaaaa5a Jul 2012 #64
this is really amazing. she came in 12 or 13 in all around best athletes with the author admitting seabeyond Jul 2012 #68
Betty White n/t madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #30
I'll add the name of Boudicca - the British Queen of the Iceni Siwsan Jun 2012 #31
Absolutely, she was one, tough lady. SharonAnn Jun 2012 #48
I'd include Queen Boudica on any short list I made... HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #32
Hey! Great minds think alike Siwsan Jun 2012 #33
And apparently simultaneously! It must have been shifting in "THE FORCE" HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #46
Since Tortoiseshell Cats were sacred to the ancient Celts, it just seemed to fit Siwsan Jun 2012 #49
toughest characters seabeyond Jun 2012 #34
Catherine the Great charlyvi Jun 2012 #35
Do you want a human, or will animals work as well? MADem Jun 2012 #36
I'll second Harriet Tubman Kennah Jun 2012 #53
Tough as nails and she needed to be! There are a ton of great choices in the little video! MADem Jun 2012 #56
a good one. mopinko Jul 2012 #63
Rosa Parks... boston bean Jun 2012 #37
Hillary Clinton is the most tough ass women I've ever seen. Smart & tough! Little Star Jun 2012 #38
Hatshepsut, King of Egypt boston bean Jun 2012 #39
there you go! I was about to rail that no Egyptophiles here. Hatshepsut, the 1st female pharaoh hlthe2b Jun 2012 #50
Mom madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #40
Johanna Ferrour (Peasants Revolt of 1381) rog Jun 2012 #41
Isabella Baumfree. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2012 #42
Mary Harris Jones, aka "Mother Jones" Democracyinkind Jun 2012 #43
Africa probably has many, many women who's toughness can't be grasped by the likes of me. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #44
true.... seabeyond Jun 2012 #45
Currently, for me tabatha Jun 2012 #54
Queen Lydia Liliuokalani, the last monarch of Hawaii LiberalEsto Jun 2012 #47
Cleopatra angel823 Jun 2012 #51
Mother Jones or Harriet Tubman rurallib Jun 2012 #52
So many great ones...Oriana Fallaci, my weakness BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #55
Ripley corkhead Jun 2012 #57
Mary Fields Jumping John Jun 2012 #58
eleanor roosevelt, shirley chisholm, bella abzug, ann richards, molly ivins, barbara jordan eom ellenfl Jun 2012 #59
ann richards, molly ivins... love those gals. seabeyond Jun 2012 #61
What a wonderful thread! Why am I the marybourg Jun 2012 #60
you talked me into it. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #62
What year Control-Z Jul 2012 #65
1986 mopinko Jul 2012 #67
what a fantastic thread. thank you all so much. mopinko Jul 2012 #69
Sea mentioned Molly Ivans Texasgal Jul 2012 #70
i do like molly, also. mopinko Jul 2012 #71
This thread made me smile! MerryBlooms Jul 2012 #72
I'm partial to Hatshepsut, of course! boston bean Jul 2012 #73
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. gonna look for more. this was fun
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jun 2012


Anne Bonny (8 March 1702 – 22 April 1782) was an Irish woman who became a famous female pirate, operating in the Caribbean.[1] What little is known of her life comes largely from A General History of the Pyrates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bonny




Myra Maybelle Shirley Reed Starr (February 5, 1848 – February 3, 1889), better known as Belle Starr, was a notorious American outlaw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Starr




Tomoe Gozen (巴 御前?) (1157?–1247), pronounced [tomo.e], was a late twelfth-century concubine of Minamoto no Yoshinaka.[1]
Tomoe was a rare female samurai warrior (onna bugeisha), known for her bravery and strength.[2] She is believed to have fought and survived the Genpei War (1180–1185).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe_Gozen




Joan of Arc, nicknamed "The Maid of Orléans" (French: Jeanne d'Arc,[2] IPA: [ʒan daʁk]; ca. 1412[3] – 30 May 1431), is a folk heroine of France and a Roman Catholic saint. A peasant girl born in what is now eastern France who claimed divine guidance, she led the French army to several important victories during the Hundred Years' War, which paved the way for the coronation of Charles VII of France. She was captured by the Burgundians, transferred to the English in exchange for money, put on trial by the pro-English Bishop of Beauvais Pierre Cauchon for charges of "insubordination and heterodoxy,"[4] and was burned at the stake for heresy when she was only 19 years old.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc




Women are nurturers and Kate Marsden took this to the extreme. A nurse who cared for the injured on the battlefield during the war between Russia and Turkey in the late 1800s, she was determined to help the suffering Russian lepers. Ever the go-getter, Kate packed up her sled and rode on horseback across 2,000 miles of Siberian wilderness in search of medicine. Taking only, a whip, pistol and food items she risked bear attacks, malaria and robbers. Sort of like an extreme real version of the computer game “Oregon Trail.” Only when you get typhoid you can’t just hit reset and start over.




Queen of a Celtic tribe, Boudica didn’t exactly lie down quietly and sit on her bum after her husband died and Roman soldiers had their way with her and her daughters. Probably the earliest inspiration for those Lifetime movies where the woman goes all vigilante ***-kicker, Boudica and her tribe destroyed several Roman settlements and temples. As her forces grew, she went on to destroy three cities and kill nearly 80,000 people; sparing nobody. With all that pillaging and razing it’s no surprise that Boudica’s name means “victory.”


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL1GCdbyHFtii0ln6fmCoHuQNYhaHhXruNxZ8dqujv5qa1APtmPA

Annie Oakley (August 13, 1860 – November 3, 1926), born Phoebe Ann Moses,[1][2][3] was an American sharpshooter and exhibition shooter. Oakley's amazing talent[4] and timely rise to fame[5] led to a starring role in Buffalo Bill's Wild West show, which propelled her to become the first American female superstar.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Or, maybe from mythology?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jun 2012

I like Bruunhilde -- before Siefried. She's really tough. (Too bad it's a Jeep and not a Volvo. )

I am sure there are many other mythic women who would qualify your criteria.

Just a suggestion.

mopinko

(70,395 posts)
11. i like this one, too.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)

tough irish girls*. what's not to like?

*which i mean in the most affectionate way possible.

Response to mopinko (Reply #11)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. a few more
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jun 2012
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Agustina_Zaragoza_(cropped).jpg/220px-Agustina_Zaragoza_(cropped).jpg

Agustina Raimunda María Saragossa Domènech, or Agustina de Aragón (March 4, 1786 – May 29, 1857) was a Spanish heroine who defended Spain during the Spanish War of Independence, first as a civilian and later as a professional officer in the Spanish Army. Known as "the Spanish Joan of Arc,"[1][2] she has been the subject of much folklore, mythology, and artwork, including sketches by Francisco de Goya and the poetry of Lord Byron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agustina_de_Arag%C3%B3n




Tamar the Great (Georgian: თამარი, also transliterated as T'amar or Thamar) (c. 1160 – 18 January 1213), of the Bagrationi dynasty, was Queen Regnant of Georgia from 1184 to 1213. Tamar presided over the "Golden age" of the medieval Georgian monarchy.[1] Her position as the first woman to rule Georgia in her own right was emphasized by the title mep'e ("king&quot , commonly afforded to Tamar in the medieval Georgian sources.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia




Zenobia (240 – c. 274) was a 3rd-century Queen of the Palmyrene Empire in Roman Syria. She led a famous revolt against the Roman Empire. The second wife of King Septimius Odaenathus, Zenobia became queen of the Palmyrene Empire following Odaenathus' death in 267. By 269, Zenobia had expanded the empire, conquering Egypt and expelling the Roman prefect, Tenagino Probus, who was beheaded after he led an attempt to recapture the territory. She ruled over Egypt until 274, when she was defeated and taken as a hostage to Rome by Emperor Aurelian.




Isabella I (Spanish: Isabel I, Old Spanish: Ysabel I; Madrigal de las Altas Torres, 22 April 1451 – Medina del Campo, 26 November 1504), nicknamed the Catholic, was Queen of Castile and León. She and her husband, Ferdinand II of Aragon, brought stability to the kingdoms that became the basis for the unification of Spain. Later the two laid the foundations for the political unification of Spain under their grandson, Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. After a struggle to claim her right to the throne, she reorganized the governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been in years, and pulled the kingdom out of the enormous debt her brother had left behind. Her reforms and those she made with her husband had an influence that extended well beyond the borders of their united kingdoms. Isabella and Ferdinand are known for completing the Reconquista, ordering conversion or exile of their Muslim and Jewish subjects and financing Christopher Columbus' 1492 voyage that led to the opening of the "New World".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_I_of_Castile





OregonBlue

(7,756 posts)
17. Carrie Nation
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jun 2012

Carrie Amelia Moore Nation (November 25, 1846 – June 9, 1911) was a radical member of the temperance movement, which opposed alcohol in pre-Prohibition America. She is particularly noteworthy for promoting her viewpoint through vandalism. On many occasions Nation would enter an alcohol-serving establishment and attack the bar with a hatchet. She has been the topic of numerous books, articles and even an opera.

Nation was a large woman, almost 6 feet (180 cm) tall and weighing 175 pounds (79 kg) and of a somewhat stern countenance. She described herself as "a bulldog running along at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn't like,"[2] and claimed a divine ordination to promote temperance by destroying bars.

The spelling of her first name is ambiguous and both Carrie and Carry are considered correct. Official records say Carrie, which Nation used most of her life; the name Carry was used by her father in the family Bible. Upon beginning her campaign against liquor in the early 20th century, she adopted the name Carry A. Nation mainly for its value as a slogan, and had it registered as a trademark in the state of Kansas.Nation continued her destructive ways in Kansas, her fame spreading through her growing arrest record. After she led a raid in Wichita her husband joked that she should use a hatchet next time for maximum damage. Nation replied, "That is the most sensible thing you have said since I married you."[2] The couple divorced in 1901, not having had any children.[9]

Alone or accompanied by hymn-singing women she would march into a bar, and sing and pray while smashing bar fixtures and stock with a hatchet. Her actions often did not include other people, just herself. Between 1900 and 1910 she was arrested some 30 times for "hatchetations," as she came to call them. Nation paid her jail fines from lecture-tour fees and sales of souvenir hatchets.[10] In April 1901 Nation came to Kansas City, Missouri, a city known for its wide opposition to the temperance movement, and smashed liquor in various bars on 12th Street in Downtown Kansas City.[11] She was arrested, hauled into court and fined $500 ($13,400 in 2011 dollars),[12] although the judge suspended the fine so long as Nation never returned to Kansas City.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation

mopinko

(70,395 posts)
20. much as i love me some angry, axe wielding woman, i just can't
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jun 2012

glorify temperance. seems flat out at odds with my plan.

OregonBlue

(7,756 posts)
66. LOL. The poster was looking for the "toughest" woman. I don't agree with her sentiments but you
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012

gotta admit she was one tough cookie!!

Warpy

(111,480 posts)
18. Eleanor of Aquitaine
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jun 2012

Ellie for short. She was quite a gal, first married to the King of France, divorced after she produced only daughters, then married to Henry II of England. The Aquitaine was the richest province in France and she controlled it, making her a real prize in marriage.

She went on Crusades. She started a war against Henry II, almost deposed him, and was put into prison for it. The fact that he didn't off her meant there must've been a real love/hate relationship there, his admiration of her strength and pure gall outweighing his desire for revenge.

Women have been systematically eliminated from history for millennia, but her name still sings down to us from 800 years ago.

She's my favorite tough broad, anyway.

Siwsan

(26,335 posts)
29. That is my favorite portrait of Elizabeth
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jun 2012

I get kind of geeky on the subject of Elizabeth Tudor - I've read just about every book about her, and made several trips to Westminster Abby, mainly to visit her tomb.

mopinko

(70,395 posts)
21. no i need to watch "lion in winter" again.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jun 2012

trouble is i have a daughter named ellie, and she is ssoooooooo not a jeep.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. last of it
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012


Amelia Mary Earhart (/ˈɛərhɑrt/ air-hart; July 24, 1897 – disappeared 1937) was a noted American aviation pioneer and author.[1][N 1] Earhart was the first woman to receive the U.S. Distinguished Flying Cross,[3] awarded for becoming the first aviatrix to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.[4] She set many other records,[2] wrote best-selling books about her flying experiences and was instrumental in the formation of The Ninety-Nines, an organization for female pilots.[5] Earhart joined the faculty of the Purdue University aviation department in 1935 as a visiting faculty member to counsel women on careers and help inspire others with her love for aviation. She was also a member of the National Woman's Party, and an early supporter of the Equal Rights Amendment.[6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart




Martha Jane Canary (May 1, 1852 – August 1, 1903), better known as Calamity Jane, was an American frontierswoman, and professional scout best known for her claim of being an acquaintance of Wild Bill Hickok, but also for having gained fame fighting Native Americans. She is said to have also exhibited kindness and compassion, especially to the sick and needy. This contrast helped to make her a famous and infamous frontier figure.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamity_Jane




Lyudmila Mykhailivna Pavlichenko (Ukrainian: Людмила Михайлівна Павліченко; Russian: Людмила Михайловна Павличенко Lyudmila Mikhailovna Pavlichenko; July 12, 1916 – October 10, 1974) was a Soviet sniper during World War II. Credited with 309 kills, she is regarded as the most successful female sniper in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko




Lydia Vladimirovna Litvyak (Лидия Владимировна Литвяк, (Moscow, August 18, 1921 – Krasnyi Luch [1] August 1, 1943), also known as Lydia Litviak or Lilya Litviak, was a fighter pilot in the Soviet Air Force during World War II. With 12 solo victories [2][3] (but some authors say 11 [4] or even 13 [5][6]) and either two,[7] or four,[8] shared gained in 66 combat missions,[5] she is one of the world's only two female fighter aces, along with Katya Budanova. She was shot down by Luftwaffe's Experten Hans-Jörg Merkle of JG 52 or Hans Schleef, of JG 3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Litvyak

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
25. Nancy Pelosi
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jun 2012

1) First female Speaker of the House and technically the most powerful female politician in American History

2) Nearly single handedly responsible for bring health care to the United States of America. A socially changing measure to our country so big and so difficult that Presidents, Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy and FDR tried to do the same thing and failed.

3) Pushed through measures and saved the most powerful economy in the history of the world from a great depression.


pansypoo53219

(21,016 posts)
26. dammit, there was a woman during henry IIIV. forgot name
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jun 2012

but she did turn up briefly in the showtime tudor's show, and dammit. i knew the name. OH YEAH, i read about her in a set of childrens books from the the teens i had found at an estate sale. YES, kids were smarter then. HELL, it had democratus! GOOGLE DEMOCRATUS!
but she is too obscure for the car.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. athletes
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jun 2012


Mildred Ella "Babe" Didrikson Zaharias (/zəˈhɑriəs/) (June 26, 1911 – September 27, 1956) was an American athlete who achieved outstanding success in golf, basketball, and track and field. She was named the 10th Greatest North American Athlete of the 20th Century by ESPN, and the 9th Greatest Athlete of the 20th Century by the Associated Press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_Zaharias




Martina Navratilova (Czech: Martina Navrátilová; born Martina Šubertová; October 18, 1956) is a retired Czech American tennis player and a former World No. 1. Billie Jean King said about Navratilova in 2006, "She's the greatest singles, doubles and mixed doubles player who's ever lived."[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navratilova




Nadia Elena Comăneci (Romanian pronunciation: [ˈnadi.a koməˈnet͡ʃʲ]; born November 12, 1961) is a Romanian gymnast, winner of three Olympic gold medals at the 1976 Summer Olympics in Montreal and the first female gymnast ever to be awarded a perfect score of 10 in an Olympic gymnastic event. She is also the winner of two gold medals at the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow. She is one of the best-known gymnasts in the world.[1][2][3] In 2000 Comăneci was named as one of the athletes of the century by the Laureus World Sports Academy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Com%C4%83neci




Jacqueline "Jackie" Joyner-Kersee (born March 3, 1962) is a retired American athlete, ranked among the all-time greatest athletes in the women's heptathlon as well as in the women's long jump. She won three gold, one silver, and two bronze Olympic medals, in those two events at four different Olympic Games. Sports Illustrated for Women magazine voted Joyner-Kersee the Greatest Female Athlete of the 20th century, just ahead of Babe Didrikson Zaharias.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Joyner-Kersee




Cheryl D. Miller (born on January 3, 1964 in Riverside, California) is a former college basketball player, coach and sportscaster for TNT. She is currently a sideline reporter for NBA games on TNT Sports and also works for NBA TV as a reporter and analyst having worked previously as a sportscaster for ABC Sports, TBS Sports and ESPN. She was also head coach and General Manager of the WNBA's Phoenix Mercury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Miller



aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
64. Mildred Ella "Babe" Didrikson Zaharias may be the most underrated great athlete
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jul 2012

in American sports history.

She got her nickname the Babe from the legendary Babe Ruth because of her ability to play baseball. She once struck out iconic Joe DiMaggio in a baseball game.

Here are some very brief bio clips that were done by ESPN talking about the prejudice she faced being a woman and her accomplishments.

Good history lesson here:









&feature=related
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
68. this is really amazing. she came in 12 or 13 in all around best athletes with the author admitting
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jul 2012

she should easily be lower in the ranking. he didnt know who to bump out though.

after reading about this woman, i am hugely impressed. her time. he abilities. her success.

thanks for the videos.

Siwsan

(26,335 posts)
31. I'll add the name of Boudicca - the British Queen of the Iceni
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jun 2012

Lead a major battle against and defeated the Romans in several major battles. Another truly amazing and strong woman. I've always been amazed that there has never been a film based on her life. It would be a great story.

I love this description:

"She was huge of frame, terrifying of aspect, and with a harsh voice. A great mass of bright red hair fell to her knees: She wore a great twisted golden necklace, and a tunic of many colors, over which was a thick mantle, fastened by a brooch. Now she grasped a spear, to strike fear into all who watched her...…"
-Dio Cassius (Dudley and Webster, 54)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
32. I'd include Queen Boudica on any short list I made...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jun 2012

I think that's said as Boo-dee-ka

She slaughtered a Roman army. She torched Londinium, leaving a charred layer almost half a meter thick that can still be traced under modern London. According to the Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus, her army killed as many as 70,000 civilians in Londinium, Verulamium and Camulodunum, rushing 'to cut throats, hang, burn, and crucify. Who was she? Why was she so angry?

Most of Boudica's life is shrouded in mystery. She was born around AD 25 to a royal family in Celtic Britain, and as a young woman she married Prasutagus, who later became king (a term adopted by the Celts, but as practiced by them, more of an elected chief) of the Iceni tribe. They had two daughters, probably born during the few years immediately after the Roman conquest in ad 43. She may have been Iceni herself, a cousin of Prasutagus, and she may have had druidic training. Even the color of her hair is mysterious. Another Roman historian, Cassius Dio — who wrote long after she died — described it with a word translators have rendered as fair, tawny, and even flaming red, though Dio probably intended his audience to picture it as golden-blonde with perhaps a reddish tinge. Her name meant victory.

Siwsan

(26,335 posts)
33. Hey! Great minds think alike
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jun 2012

I think that Boudicca is a very little known historical figure.

I named my tortie cat after her.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
46. And apparently simultaneously! It must have been shifting in "THE FORCE"
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jun 2012

But really, Boudica, or Boudicca, however it is spelled was the kind of woman of whom legends are written.

It remains one of my favorite names for a cat in my future

Siwsan

(26,335 posts)
49. Since Tortoiseshell Cats were sacred to the ancient Celts, it just seemed to fit
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jun 2012

She's a beauty. Next time I see a good Cat thread, I'll include her photo. Or, maybe I'll just start one, in the near future!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
34. toughest characters
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jun 2012


Sarah Connor, “The Terminator”




Ellen Ripley – Alien Movies




Beatrix Kiddo – Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2




River Tam – Serenity




Yu Shu-lien – Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon




Lara Croft: Tomb Raider

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Do you want a human, or will animals work as well?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jun 2012

Since a jeep is a workhorse, the name RUFFIAN might do....

Ruffian (April 17, 1972–July 7, 1975) was an American champion thoroughbred racehorse. Ruffian is considered by many to be the greatest female racehorse in history and was ranked among the greatest U.S. racehorses of the 20th century by Blood-Horse magazine. Her story was told in 2007 film Ruffian.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruffian_(horse)


Then, there's Laika. You don't hear this name on female dogs (I am not going near that b word) here in USA, but in the rest of the world it is a very common name for your female pup--and it is all down to the famous cosmo-dog. Every time I hear the name Laika I feel a twinge for that poor little street dog, even after all these years. The name always makes me think of her.

Laika (Russian: Лайка, literally meaning "Barker"; c. 1954 – November 3, 1957) was a Soviet space dog that became the first animal to orbit the Earth – as well as the first animal to die in orbit.

As little was known about the impact of spaceflight on living creatures at the time of Laika's mission, and the technology to de-orbit had not yet been developed, there was no expectation of Laika's survival. Some scientists believed humans would be unable to survive the launch or the conditions of outer space, so engineers viewed flights by non-human animals as a necessary precursor to human missions.[1] Laika, a stray dog, originally named Kudryavka (Russian: Кудрявка Little Curly), underwent training with two other dogs, and was eventually chosen as the occupant of the Soviet spacecraft Sputnik 2 that was launched into outer space on November 3, 1957.

Laika likely died within hours after launch from overheating,[2] possibly caused by a failure of the central R-7 sustainer to separate from the payload.[3] The true cause and time of her death was not made public until 2002; instead, it was widely reported that she died when her oxygen ran out on day six,[4] or as the Soviet government initially claimed, she was euthanised prior to oxygen depletion. The experiment aimed to prove that a living passenger could survive being launched into orbit and endure weightlessness, paving the way for human spaceflight and providing scientists with some of the first data on how living organisms react to spaceflight environments.

On April 11, 2008, Russian officials unveiled a monument to Laika. A small monument in her honour was built near the military research facility in Moscow which prepared Laika's flight to space. It features a dog standing on top of a rocket.[1][5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika



I know there are tons of stories of cats saving families from fires, I'll bet a few of them were of the female persuasion!

If you are set on a human name for your vehicle, there are a ton of choices here:




Harriet Tubman
Amelia Earhart
Alexandra Kollontai
Asma Khader
Eleanor Roosevelt
Florence Griffith Joyner
Malalai Kakar
Jeannette Rankin
Martha Carey Thomas
Marie Curie
Mother Teresa
Mary Astell
Parvin Ardalan
Queen Amina of Zaria
Queen Esther of Persia
Rachel Corrie
Sarah Winnamucca
Queen Zanobia of Palmyra
Simone Weil
Lady Godiva
Susan B. Anthony
Sappho
Queen Elizabeth of England
Sojouner Truth
Wilma Rudolph
Indira Ghandi
Hildegard of Bingen
Corrie Ten Boom
Chien-Shiung Wu
Elizabeth Kenny
Tomoe Gozen
Etty Hillesum
Jody Williams
Mary Shelly Wollstonecraft
Julia Ward Howe
Princess Diana
Rosa Parks

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. Tough as nails and she needed to be! There are a ton of great choices in the little video!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jun 2012

Each time you think, ah, there ya go, up pops another one that has merit!

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
38. Hillary Clinton is the most tough ass women I've ever seen. Smart & tough!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

Many have tried to take her down. Not a one has yet to succeed. She has more balls than a kid's bouncy house!



boston bean

(36,228 posts)
39. Hatshepsut, King of Egypt
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jun 2012

Hatshepsut was the daughter of Thutmose I and his queen Ahmose Nefertari. She was married to her half brother, Thutmose II, perhaps to strengthen his claim to the throne. As Hatshepsut produced no heir, a son of Thutmose II by another wife inherited the throne as Thutmose III. He was probably very young when he became king, and Hatshepsut acted as his regent.

By the seventh year of the reign of Thutmose III, Hatshepsut had adopted the status of king. Unlike other female kings, Hatshepsut ruled for a considerable number of years. Her reign was prosperous, with expeditions to Punt, Byblos and Sinai commemorated in her mortuary temple. This structure, at Deir el-Bahari, is now one of the most famous monuments in Egypt.

By his twenty-second year, Thutmose III was ruling alone. It is not clear whether Hatshepsut died naturally or was removed. Nor is it clear whether she was buried in her tomb in the Valley of the Kings. Because she defied tradition to become king, Hatshepsut was not included in later lists of kings, and her name and image was removed from her monuments.

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/article_index/h/hatshepsut,_king_of_egypt.aspx

hlthe2b

(102,577 posts)
50. there you go! I was about to rail that no Egyptophiles here. Hatshepsut, the 1st female pharaoh
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jun 2012

Eighteenth Dynasty (~1472-1458 BCE)
Widow of Thutmosis II, she ruled first as regent for his minor son and heir, and then as Pharaoh, a female Horus. Her titles include "King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Maatkare, Daughter of Re."

She is depicted in a fake beard and with the objects that a Pharaoh is usually depicted with, and in male attire, after a few years of ruling in female form. She reported herself heading up a military campaign and going on a journey to the Land of Punt. She disappears suddenly from history, and her son apparently ordered the destruction of images of Hatshepsut and mentions of her rule.

As those who know me well would attest, I am a REAL ancient Egypt lover. Hatshepsut shares a lot with today's females, including that her accomplishments were intentionally hidden or deemphasized and that she felt the need to pose as a male in many contexts to succeed.

rog

(651 posts)
41. Johanna Ferrour (Peasants Revolt of 1381)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

I heard Prof. Sylvia Federico interviewed on the CBC Radio show As It Happens recently and remembered this story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18373149

On 14 June 1381, rebels dragged Lord Chancellor Simon of Sudbury from the Tower of London and brutally beheaded him. Outraged by his hated poll tax, the insurgents had stormed into London looking for him, plundering and burning buildings as they went.

It was the leader of the group who arrested Sudbury and dragged him to the chopping block, ordering that he be beheaded.

Her name was Johanna Ferrour.

In court documents she was described as "chief perpetrator and leader of rebellious evildoers from Kent". She also ordered the death of the treasurer, Robert Hales.

As well as leading the rebels into London, she was charged with burning the Savoy Palace - the grandest townhouse in London at the time - and stealing a chest of gold from a duke.

So why are women like Ferrour largely hidden from popular history, yet charismatic rebel leaders such as the "mad priest" John Ball and Wat Tyler dominate in the history books?

Some historians now suggest that sexist attitudes permeated medieval history. By translating Latin court records, Sylvia Federico, Associate Professor of English at Bates College, was able to establish that women were often at the heart of the revolt.


.rog.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
43. Mary Harris Jones, aka "Mother Jones"
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jun 2012

Teddy called her "the most dangerous woman in America".



93 years old at the time... As Utah Philips said, that's some kind of dangerous.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
45. true....
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jun 2012

the more i think, the more women that are not mentioned.... all over the place, in so many ways.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
54. Currently, for me
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jun 2012

this is a tough African lady in all aspects

Caster Semenya

I hope she gets Olympic gold.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
47. Queen Lydia Liliuokalani, the last monarch of Hawaii
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jun 2012

She was forced to abdicate in 1893 by a group of corporatists (led by Sanford B. Dole) who feared loss of their profits. She said she gave up her throne to protect her people from bloodshed. Two years later she was imprisoned in Iolani palace for eight months for allegedly knowing about a revolt to take back Hawaii from the provisional government. When she died, she left her estate to the care of poor and orphaned children in Hawaii.

http://qlcc.org/queen.htm

BeyondGeography

(39,399 posts)
55. So many great ones...Oriana Fallaci, my weakness
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jun 2012

Gorgeous and tough. Who can resist?

Plus, anyone who can throw a chador in the Ayatollah Khomeini's face merits a mention:

<snip>OF- I still have to ask you a lot of things. About the "chador," for example, which I was obliged to wear to come and interview you, and which you impose on Iranian women. [...] I am not only referring to the dress but to what it represents, I mean the apartheid Iranian women have been forced into after the revolution. They cannot study at the university with men, they cannot work with men, they cannot swim in the sea or in a swimming-pool with men. They have to do everything separately, wearing their "chador." By the way, how can you swim wearing a "chador"?

AK- None of this concerns you, our customs do not concern you. If you don't like the islamic dress you are not obliged to wear it, since it is for young women and respectable ladies.

OF- This is very kind of you, Imam, since you tell me that, I'm going to immediately rid myself of this stupid medieval rag. There !.<snip>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriana_Fallaci

 

Jumping John

(930 posts)
58. Mary Fields
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jun 2012


"Although she may have been one of the toughest women ever to work in a convent, ‘Black Mary’ had earned the respect and devotion of most of the residents of the pioneer community of Cascade, Montana, before she died in 1914. In fact, Mary Fields was widely beloved. She was admired and respected throughout the region for holding her own and living her own way in a world where the odds were stacked against her. In a time when African Americans and women of any race enjoyed little freedom anywhere in the world, Mary Fields enjoyed more freedom than most white men.

Fields dressed in the comfortable clothes of a man, including a wool cap and boots, and she wore a revolver strapped around her waist under her apron. At 200 pounds, she was said to be a match for any two men in Montana Territory. She had a standing bet that she could knock a man out with one punch, and she never lost a dime to anyone foolish enough to take her up on that bet. By order of the mayor, she was the only woman of reputable character in Cascade allowed to drink in the local bar, and while she enjoyed the privilege, she never drank to excess. She was often spotted smoking cigars in public, and she liked to argue politics with anyone."

http://historythings.tumblr.com/tagged/Badass-Women-in-History

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It would make a nice synonym if you go off-roading.

mopinko

(70,395 posts)
69. what a fantastic thread. thank you all so much.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jul 2012

how delightful.

so, here are the ones that strike me right now-
in no particular order-

harriet tubman
calamity jane
mother jones
sojourner truth
betty white
boudica
anne bonny
queen nanny
amelia earhart
bella abzug

i do llike both eleanor roosevelt and eleanor of aquataine, but have an eleanor in the family.

thanks for making my job more fun, but more difficult. i mean, how will i decide now?

ps- rec it up. it should be the next cool thing!

Texasgal

(17,049 posts)
70. Sea mentioned Molly Ivans
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jul 2012

I like "Molly" she looks like a Molly too!

Keep us posted on what you decide!!

MerryBlooms

(11,778 posts)
72. This thread made me smile!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jul 2012

So uplifting and filled with fabulous feminine history.

Looking forward to your decision, mopinko.

Myself, I'm partial to Molly.

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
73. I'm partial to Hatshepsut, of course!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jul 2012


Hattie for short, and the name has the word She written inside it!
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