Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumReporting in the Bernie Group -For Group Violations
Last edited Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:07 AM - Edit history (3)
Please help the hosts out.
There is no way to report to group hosts on replies. With Senator Sanders becoming more and more popular, we can expect more and more posters coming to disrupt threads, I am afraid.
Often times people may not realize they're not in GD/GD-P. In that case, a warning will usually suffice. I believe that the majority of people on DU respect the group's SoP. However, occasionally, that's not the case
If you see a reply that you feel violates the SoP of the group, but not worthy of going to a jury, please do the following:
Alert on the OP with the "This discussion thread is off-topic, or violates the Statement of Purpose for this group" This option is not available for replies.
If your alert is for a reply and not for the OP, make sure you note in the comments, that you are
[font color="red" size="2"] NOT[/font] alerting on the OP and put the reply number you want looked at by the hosts.
This will send an email to the hosts. It won't go to a jury. That way, the hosts that are online will be able to look at the issue without you having to go to each host to find out if they're around.
You can't alert on your own OP though. So you will have to do it via private message.
We try to monitor everything but we're growing daily. Already over 29,000 posts in the group!
Thanks to merrily for this great idea!
Finally, if you want the post to go to a jury, by all means, alert normally.
Thanks everyone! #GoBernie #Bernie2016
On edit: we discovered that the alert does NOT go to the author of the OP.
[font color="red" size="2"]Skinner fixed the issue when only one alert can be sent on an OP. All alerts now go through to the hosts. But remember, you can't alert on your own OP.
I believe that if an OP has been sent to a jury, however, you will only receive a "send message to Administer" instead of the alert options."[/font]
Thanks for all your cooperation. This has been extremely helpful to us hosts!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)it's amazing to think about how large a chunk of DU this group is.
We're trying
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)It's merrily's idea
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Kinda sad I didn't think of it.
#BernBabyBern
marym625
(17,997 posts)But it was merrily that did
I am on board with this.
I am up all night so I have the nigthwatch so to speak.
Over 10,000 posts!
marym625
(17,997 posts)Love it.
I am on just whenever. Sometimes really early. So I'll be the early morning watchman
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)That is a good idea.
marym625
(17,997 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Up until now, I didn't pay too much attention where OP's were posted. Ohhh, I sure look now.
GD has become a mine field...it's gonna be a long campaign.
And yeah, ain't that the truth!
mother earth
(6,002 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Always a good reminder
marym625
(17,997 posts)Or just kick this occasionally
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)A new person might not know about pinned posts either. But I doubt new people will be too eager to join into this cyber madhouse. If I was an interested supporter and saw some of the threads on here, I wouldn't set foot in the joint.
marym625
(17,997 posts)It should push the post to the top when you are looking in the Bernie Group. Kicking it I mean
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I have been poking around the internet and have seen DU quoted. It searches very high in search engines. Once Bernie gets more press it will get drowned out, but it disturbs me to think recent threads will spread to the wider web and be picked up as fact somewhere.
I was wondering what hosts and members thought about the idea of posters making Bernie threads primarily in the Bernie group. I know some people do that, but maybe talking about it will put it on the radar for some who aren't used to doing it that way. It seems like with other groups, to gain visibility, you post in both the group and GD. But because the Bernie group is so large, you don't need to do that. Sanders group tops the greatest page every day. And it will cut down on the crazy talking points. Just a thought that could cut down on the stress of everyone involved. Since most people have picked a side, it might be better to give it a rest for a while. Neutral, respectful people could post wherever they wanted. But the ongoing viciousness is not good for anyone. Both sides feel that way. It may just change people's habits. I know I peruse the Sanders group much more where I used to always just click the greatest tab. I can see from today's threads in the HRC Group that they are feeling attacked. But pro Bernie threads only, no HRC threads.
Anyway, it's no big deal, just a thought. I do think it's interesting that for the most part, the same people who agreed on issues are now supporting the same chosen candidate. This is a nice group and I like it.
marym625
(17,997 posts)But I don't think it's always good to be in the bubble. If we could trust that discussions would be civil, it wouldn't matter. Unfortunately, we can't.
But we also can't have an honest discussion with people who don't support Sanders if we do nothing but post here. Some of the decent HC supporters won't comment in here just to be respectful. I know I won't reply on anything in the HC group for the same reason, even though the replies would be respectful. Sort of a catch 22 in that regard
But, yeah, some of shit in GD is pretty bad
Bernie is going to be on in a few minutes! !
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I think you can steam it live
But we will post asap!
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I forgot to get you a video. Did you see it yet?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Wrong video, I've been so focused on the memorial service today. I didn't see the Bernie thing yet.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Sorry!
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)It's a day to celebrate
marym625
(17,997 posts)Yeah!
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)I have been able to post in the Clinton group, even though I admit I support Sanders. Of course, I'm very careful not to say anything bad, rude, insensitive, etc. about Clinton. A couple people questioned me, but nobody threw me out. That's better than the Obama group.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Not everyone is met with that. I have seen more than a few blocked for basically breathing in there l. Metaphorically of course.
Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #14)
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marym625
(17,997 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)swilton
(5,069 posts)What I'm going to relate doesn't technically violate the above protocol, but I feel that it violates the spirit of DU....
Just made the following post in our group entitled 'We Did It' - reports that Sanders and Clinton are now in a dead heat in NH....
One member from the Hillary camp sent me a private msg about that post reminding me that Sanders may not get on the primary ballot in NH...My response was the following as I paraphrase...."sorry if you feel threatened it's not for me to decide whether or not Sanders gets on the NH primary ballot...But I think the poll results are telling of the strength of Sanders' candidacy as well as the power of his message."
Comments...
marym625
(17,997 posts)And I think it was good they didn't come here to say it as it. However, you posted here so you wouldn't have to deal with that.
You can alert on a PM, ignore it or respond as you did, I think what you did was the best way to handle it
swilton
(5,069 posts)Issue has never come up before - another sign that people are getting worried.
marym625
(17,997 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)
This is ridiculous and I have no idea why they are still allowed on the site. It's bullshit!
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)I would just ask one favor, Read the post carefully and determine whether or not it needs to be flagged. Please remember, the groups are supposed to promote "discussion." This includes constructive criticism.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:54 AM - Edit history (1)
I don't have a problem with facts that are corrected but this is a safe haven to support Sanders. Criticism of him, constructive or not, is not really supporting.
Obviously, it depends on what is said, sometimes by whom and what the real motivation is.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Context is important. If I say, "I'm gad Bernie got his hair styled. I didn't like the frizzy look." that would be criticism, but... well, you see.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Glad you responded for 2 reasons. One because I am glad to know it's clear what I meant. Two because I didn't catch my error before. Fixed it now.
2banon
(7,321 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you very much!
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Bernie doesn't hand-pick his audiences.
marym625
(17,997 posts)But that's what GDP is for. This group is a safe haven for people who don't want to do anything but support Bernie
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)My first reaction: NOBODY is on par with Elizabeth Warren. And that's what I wrote, without bothering to notice that I was in a "Clinton" group.
I was banned instantly because of a post that didn't mention Hillary Clinton.
I haven't seen that echo-chamber mentality in our group. May that continue.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Unless it's blatant trolling,,we give a warning. With something like that, I don't think anyone would even notice
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)I do love being here!
PatrickforO
(14,605 posts)It was a reply to an OP that was clearly racist. It did not to the jury - the moderators took the whole thing off.
But, yeah, as FOR Bernie as I am, if he loses the primary, I will be voting Dem in the GE. No problem there.
It's just that we have this widening chasm between the Third Way Dems and the rest of us - I like to think of the rest of us as 'New Dealers.'
This is what I'm seeing - the New Dealers have gotten tired of the Third Way and they are starting to stand up and be noticed. And Bernie has done an absolutely tremendous job of elevating the dialog. It is fortunate, I think, because it is no longer possible now for us to go back to the same Third Way dominance.