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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 08:36 AM Jun 2015

Reporting in the Bernie Group -For Group Violations

Last edited Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:07 AM - Edit history (3)

Please help the hosts out.

There is no way to report to group hosts on replies. With Senator Sanders becoming more and more popular, we can expect more and more posters coming to disrupt threads, I am afraid.

Often times people may not realize they're not in GD/GD-P. In that case, a warning will usually suffice. I believe that the majority of people on DU respect the group's SoP. However, occasionally, that's not the case

If you see a reply that you feel violates the SoP of the group, but not worthy of going to a jury, please do the following:

Alert on the OP with the "This discussion thread is off-topic, or violates the Statement of Purpose for this group" This option is not available for replies.

If your alert is for a reply and not for the OP, make sure you note in the comments, that you are
[font color="red" size="2"] NOT[/font] alerting on the OP and put the reply number you want looked at by the hosts.

This will send an email to the hosts. It won't go to a jury. That way, the hosts that are online will be able to look at the issue without you having to go to each host to find out if they're around.

You can't alert on your own OP though. So you will have to do it via private message.

We try to monitor everything but we're growing daily. Already over 29,000 posts in the group!

Thanks to merrily for this great idea!

Finally, if you want the post to go to a jury, by all means, alert normally.

Thanks everyone! #GoBernie #Bernie2016



On edit: we discovered that the alert does NOT go to the author of the OP.

[font color="red" size="2"]Skinner fixed the issue when only one alert can be sent on an OP. All alerts now go through to the hosts. But remember, you can't alert on your own OP.

I believe that if an OP has been sent to a jury, however, you will only receive a "send message to Administer" instead of the alert options."[/font]

Thanks for all your cooperation. This has been extremely helpful to us hosts!

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Reporting in the Bernie Group -For Group Violations (Original Post) marym625 Jun 2015 OP
My respect for our hosts grows daily.... daleanime Jun 2015 #1
Thanks marym625 Jun 2015 #4
This is a good plan, thanks! NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #2
wish I could take credit marym625 Jun 2015 #5
Good idea hootinholler Jun 2015 #3
Ha! me too! marym625 Jun 2015 #6
Perfect. TM99 Jun 2015 #7
The night watchman marym625 Jun 2015 #9
Thanks to the hosts for all they are doing. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #8
Thank you! You are an awesome Bernie poster marym625 Jun 2015 #10
Great post. SoapBox Jun 2015 #11
Thanks marym625 Jun 2015 #12
Ty, Mary & merrily. mother earth Jun 2015 #13
Thanks BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #14
I'm wondering if we should add this to one of the pinned posts marym625 Jun 2015 #15
Yes, if it shows up when you kick it, that is a good idea BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #16
You mean the Sanders group, or DU? marym625 Jun 2015 #17
I meant GD BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #18
I understand what you mean about posting only here, and why marym625 Jun 2015 #19
Post video for us without cable if you can! BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #20
It's on a regular station. NBC marym625 Jun 2015 #21
Cool, I don't have any TV any more BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #22
kerphlewy! marym625 Jun 2015 #31
Ha ha BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #34
I will try to find it marym625 Jun 2015 #35
No problemo BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #36
Yes it certainly is! marym625 Jun 2015 #37
So far so good HassleCat Jun 2015 #27
I'm glad to hear it marym625 Jun 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Enthusiast Sep 2015 #48
kicking for a reminder marym625 Jun 2015 #23
kick marym625 Jun 2015 #24
Question - swilton Jun 2015 #25
Good response marym625 Jun 2015 #28
Thanks for the feedback swilton Jun 2015 #32
Which is so AWESOME! ;) marym625 Jun 2015 #33
That person is on vacation, yet aagain marym625 Jun 2015 #38
Seems reasonable HassleCat Jun 2015 #26
uhm. not really marym625 Jun 2015 #29
Your closing sentence says it HassleCat Jun 2015 #39
exactly marym625 Jun 2015 #40
Happy to see this pinned, and hat tip for all your hardwork.. 2banon Jul 2015 #41
Thank you! marym625 Jul 2015 #42
I have no problem with nay-sayers who post to our group. Let 'em post. SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #43
I can understand that marym625 Aug 2015 #44
Not long ago, I read a post that put Hillary Clinton on par with Elizabeth Warren. SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #45
oh yeah,,no worries about that marym625 Aug 2015 #46
We're not a defensive lot, are we? SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #47
The only time I alerted a message it was WAY over the top. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #49

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
1. My respect for our hosts grows daily....
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:14 AM
Jun 2015

it's amazing to think about how large a chunk of DU this group is.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
7. Perfect.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jun 2015

I am on board with this.

I am up all night so I have the nigthwatch so to speak.

Over 10,000 posts!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
9. The night watchman
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jun 2015

Love it.

I am on just whenever. Sometimes really early. So I'll be the early morning watchman

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. Great post.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jun 2015

Up until now, I didn't pay too much attention where OP's were posted. Ohhh, I sure look now.

GD has become a mine field...it's gonna be a long campaign.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
16. Yes, if it shows up when you kick it, that is a good idea
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:28 AM
Jun 2015

A new person might not know about pinned posts either. But I doubt new people will be too eager to join into this cyber madhouse. If I was an interested supporter and saw some of the threads on here, I wouldn't set foot in the joint.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
17. You mean the Sanders group, or DU?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jun 2015

It should push the post to the top when you are looking in the Bernie Group. Kicking it I mean

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
18. I meant GD
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jun 2015

I have been poking around the internet and have seen DU quoted. It searches very high in search engines. Once Bernie gets more press it will get drowned out, but it disturbs me to think recent threads will spread to the wider web and be picked up as fact somewhere.

I was wondering what hosts and members thought about the idea of posters making Bernie threads primarily in the Bernie group. I know some people do that, but maybe talking about it will put it on the radar for some who aren't used to doing it that way. It seems like with other groups, to gain visibility, you post in both the group and GD. But because the Bernie group is so large, you don't need to do that. Sanders group tops the greatest page every day. And it will cut down on the crazy talking points. Just a thought that could cut down on the stress of everyone involved. Since most people have picked a side, it might be better to give it a rest for a while. Neutral, respectful people could post wherever they wanted. But the ongoing viciousness is not good for anyone. Both sides feel that way. It may just change people's habits. I know I peruse the Sanders group much more where I used to always just click the greatest tab. I can see from today's threads in the HRC Group that they are feeling attacked. But pro Bernie threads only, no HRC threads.

Anyway, it's no big deal, just a thought. I do think it's interesting that for the most part, the same people who agreed on issues are now supporting the same chosen candidate. This is a nice group and I like it.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
19. I understand what you mean about posting only here, and why
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:58 AM
Jun 2015

But I don't think it's always good to be in the bubble. If we could trust that discussions would be civil, it wouldn't matter. Unfortunately, we can't.

But we also can't have an honest discussion with people who don't support Sanders if we do nothing but post here. Some of the decent HC supporters won't comment in here just to be respectful. I know I won't reply on anything in the HC group for the same reason, even though the replies would be respectful. Sort of a catch 22 in that regard

But, yeah, some of shit in GD is pretty bad

Bernie is going to be on in a few minutes! !

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
34. Ha ha
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jun 2015

Wrong video, I've been so focused on the memorial service today. I didn't see the Bernie thing yet.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
27. So far so good
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

I have been able to post in the Clinton group, even though I admit I support Sanders. Of course, I'm very careful not to say anything bad, rude, insensitive, etc. about Clinton. A couple people questioned me, but nobody threw me out. That's better than the Obama group.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
30. I'm glad to hear it
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

Not everyone is met with that. I have seen more than a few blocked for basically breathing in there l. Metaphorically of course.

Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #14)

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
25. Question -
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jun 2015

What I'm going to relate doesn't technically violate the above protocol, but I feel that it violates the spirit of DU....

Just made the following post in our group entitled 'We Did It' - reports that Sanders and Clinton are now in a dead heat in NH....

One member from the Hillary camp sent me a private msg about that post reminding me that Sanders may not get on the primary ballot in NH...My response was the following as I paraphrase...."sorry if you feel threatened it's not for me to decide whether or not Sanders gets on the NH primary ballot...But I think the poll results are telling of the strength of Sanders' candidacy as well as the power of his message."

Comments...

marym625

(17,997 posts)
28. Good response
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jun 2015

And I think it was good they didn't come here to say it as it. However, you posted here so you wouldn't have to deal with that.

You can alert on a PM, ignore it or respond as you did, I think what you did was the best way to handle it

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
32. Thanks for the feedback
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jun 2015

Issue has never come up before - another sign that people are getting worried.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
38. That person is on vacation, yet aagain
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)



This is ridiculous and I have no idea why they are still allowed on the site. It's bullshit!
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
26. Seems reasonable
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jun 2015

I would just ask one favor, Read the post carefully and determine whether or not it needs to be flagged. Please remember, the groups are supposed to promote "discussion." This includes constructive criticism.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
29. uhm. not really
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:54 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't have a problem with facts that are corrected but this is a safe haven to support Sanders. Criticism of him, constructive or not, is not really supporting.

Obviously, it depends on what is said, sometimes by whom and what the real motivation is.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
39. Your closing sentence says it
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

Context is important. If I say, "I'm gad Bernie got his hair styled. I didn't like the frizzy look." that would be criticism, but... well, you see.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
40. exactly
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:56 AM
Jun 2015

Glad you responded for 2 reasons. One because I am glad to know it's clear what I meant. Two because I didn't catch my error before. Fixed it now.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
43. I have no problem with nay-sayers who post to our group. Let 'em post.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie doesn't hand-pick his audiences.



marym625

(17,997 posts)
44. I can understand that
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:10 PM
Aug 2015

But that's what GDP is for. This group is a safe haven for people who don't want to do anything but support Bernie

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
45. Not long ago, I read a post that put Hillary Clinton on par with Elizabeth Warren.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:47 PM
Aug 2015

My first reaction: NOBODY is on par with Elizabeth Warren. And that's what I wrote, without bothering to notice that I was in a "Clinton" group.


I was banned instantly because of a post that didn't mention Hillary Clinton.

I haven't seen that echo-chamber mentality in our group. May that continue.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
46. oh yeah,,no worries about that
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

Unless it's blatant trolling,,we give a warning. With something like that, I don't think anyone would even notice

PatrickforO

(14,605 posts)
49. The only time I alerted a message it was WAY over the top.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:38 PM
Nov 2015

It was a reply to an OP that was clearly racist. It did not to the jury - the moderators took the whole thing off.

But, yeah, as FOR Bernie as I am, if he loses the primary, I will be voting Dem in the GE. No problem there.

It's just that we have this widening chasm between the Third Way Dems and the rest of us - I like to think of the rest of us as 'New Dealers.'

This is what I'm seeing - the New Dealers have gotten tired of the Third Way and they are starting to stand up and be noticed. And Bernie has done an absolutely tremendous job of elevating the dialog. It is fortunate, I think, because it is no longer possible now for us to go back to the same Third Way dominance.

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