Bernie Sanders

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts) Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:08 PM Jun 2015

DFA sent out an email announcing that they have finally given up

their quixotic quest to induce Liz to run. They asked for comments via email reply. Here is what I wrote:

As an early Warren supporter, I fully respect her decision not to run. At this point, I believe Bernie Sanders best represents my interests and concerns, and have sent him money. He can only win through an unorthodox campaign, fueled by grassroots activism and passionate commitment from his volunteers. His supporters will need to work the social media--Fb, Twitter, etc.--to get out the word because there will be no big contributions.

The simple fact is, people seem to get excited when they find out about him. I have gotten into a lot of discussions about his 12 points with various people, and their reactions are nearly always very positive.

What some see as Bernie's Achilles heel--his inability to raise huge amounts from the banksters and the favor-seeking corporations--is to me his greatest strength. If I were in the proverb-writing trade, my product for today would be this:

You can't fight Big Money with Big Money, because Big Money wins either way.

And I signed it.

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DFA sent out an email announcing that they have finally given up (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 OP

WTF? gopiscrap Jun 2015 #1

What generated the WTF? Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #3

Howard and Jim call it "Democracy for America" DFW Jun 2015 #7

Imperfect memory. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #17

Not a huge deal DFW Jun 2015 #23

I like it! Nt HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #2

That last sentence is the best quote of the day. I mean, who'd have thought? Like Heads I win, libdem4life Jun 2015 #4

Your last sentence should be shouted all over America BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #5

Yes! The time has come to "Think outside the buck"! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #6

Great way to put it! JDPriestly Jun 2015 #9

Tweet em!!!! BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #11

That is absolutely correct. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #28

+1 Enthusiast Jun 2015 #21

Brilliant line. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #29

Very clever adjustment! RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #31

Like it... daleanime Jun 2015 #32

Well said! JDPriestly Jun 2015 #8

About time. That was all about gathering emails for their databases geek tragedy Jun 2015 #10

The thing is Big Money has won nothing. Elizabeth Warren is still in a great position to bring them jwirr Jun 2015 #12

I doubt very much that DFA would consider sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #13

But they were pushing for a Warren candidacy Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #18

Petition: Democracy For America should back Bernie Sanders Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #14

Done. daleanime Jun 2015 #15

Just signed it BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #19

cool, Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #20

Signed both petitions jopacaco Jun 2015 #26

I didn't realize signing these petitions subscribes you to a MoveOn email list Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #27

I pretty relentlessly weed my email account; Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #30

Signed both petitions sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #16

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #22

"You can't fight Big Money with Big Money, because Big Money wins either way." Scuba Jun 2015 #24

K & R, & I signed the MoveOn petition too, thanks! dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #25

gopiscrap

(23,768 posts)

1. WTF?

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:10 PM

Jun 2015

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

3. What generated the WTF?

Reply to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:13 PM

Jun 2015

Was it DFA? That's Democrats for America, originally (2004) Dean For America, a progressive group still headed by Howard's brother.

Otherwise, WTF, WTF? (I always wanted to type that.)

DFW

(54,520 posts)

7. Howard and Jim call it "Democracy for America"

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:30 PM

Jun 2015

Did you order them to change the name or something?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

17. Imperfect memory.

Reply to DFW (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:27 PM

Jun 2015

I may well not have it straight.

DFW

(54,520 posts)

23. Not a huge deal

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:46 AM

Jun 2015

But they are both friends, so with me it's personal

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

2. I like it! Nt

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:12 PM

Jun 2015

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

4. That last sentence is the best quote of the day. I mean, who'd have thought? Like Heads I win,

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:28 PM

Jun 2015

Tails you lose.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)

5. Your last sentence should be shouted all over America

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:08 PM

Jun 2015

This is their twitter name

@DFAaction

Everyone tweet them right damn now.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

6. Yes! The time has come to "Think outside the buck"! n/t

Reply to BrotherIvan (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:21 PM

Jun 2015

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)

9. Great way to put it!

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:36 PM

Jun 2015

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)

11. Tweet em!!!!

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:43 PM

Jun 2015

Progressives need to get together and organize now. That is the only way to defeat big money.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

28. That is absolutely correct.

Reply to BrotherIvan (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:26 AM

Jun 2015

The revolution will not be televised.

It will be tweeted.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)

21. +1

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:38 PM

Jun 2015

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

29. Brilliant line.

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:28 AM

Jun 2015

It may work a little better pluralized: "Think outside the Bucks."

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

31. Very clever adjustment!

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 12:08 PM

Jun 2015

daleanime

(17,796 posts)

32. Like it...

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:43 PM

Jun 2015

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)

8. Well said!

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:35 PM

Jun 2015

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

10. About time. That was all about gathering emails for their databases

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 03:41 PM

Jun 2015

instead of promoting an ideas-driven campaign. Bernie was always clear about his intent to run, has policies that are to the left of Warren, yet they chased that windmill because she was the media star.

Now they're jumping on the bandwagon.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)

12. The thing is Big Money has won nothing. Elizabeth Warren is still in a great position to bring them

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:40 PM

Jun 2015

in line. Her voice had not and will not be lost.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)

13. I doubt very much that DFA would consider

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:01 PM

Jun 2015

to support Bernie, because Howard Dean is a very strong
supporter of HRC. Still, I can write a short comment to them.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

18. But they were pushing for a Warren candidacy

Reply to sadoldgirl (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:29 PM

Jun 2015

at the same time Howard was touting Hillary. Howard & DFA are different entities, apparently.

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)

14. Petition: Democracy For America should back Bernie Sanders

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:33 PM

Jun 2015

https://youpower.democracyforamerica.com/petitions/democracy-for-america-should-back-bernie-sanders

And MoveOn.org also got out the the Liz Warren game today too.

So we can sign this petition for MoveOn to back Bernie.
This one has been around a bit longer and already has 5000 sigs:
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/move-on-should-back-bernie

daleanime

(17,796 posts)

15. Done.

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:52 PM

Jun 2015

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)

19. Just signed it

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:09 PM

Jun 2015

Could you make this an OP so all Sanders people see it? They need to back him or they will lose all credibility. DU can add about 700 sigs if they tried.

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)

20. cool,

Reply to BrotherIvan (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:13 PM

Jun 2015

Yep I posted it a little bit ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128011190

jopacaco

(133 posts)

26. Signed both petitions

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:26 AM

Jun 2015

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)

27. I didn't realize signing these petitions subscribes you to a MoveOn email list

Reply to jopacaco (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:00 AM

Jun 2015

Since signing it I am getting emails from "John Schoonover", the person who started the petition.

They aren't bad or anything, just tips for actions to take. But kind of unwanted for me.

So I went to the bottom of the email and clicked 'unsubscribe'.