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Anyone read this Rolling Stone article? What do you think? (Original Post) peacebird Jun 2015 OP
One of the reasons I'm with Bernie Mbrow Jun 2015 #1
I was suprised her campaign put that out so blatantly.... peacebird Jun 2015 #2
She's always hired tone deaf campaign handlers Warpy Jun 2015 #3
Someone posted part of it earlier today, your post prompted me to read the whole thing tech3149 Jun 2015 #4
The Party leadership is dead-set on MANAGING their base, Maedhros Jun 2015 #5
Therin lies the problem tech3149 Jun 2015 #7
They use propaganda techniques on us. Maedhros Jun 2015 #8
or for that matter swilton Jun 2015 #9
I was stunned when I read it. peacebird Jun 2015 #6
I think she's not only following that strategy swilton Jun 2015 #10
Jeez...I instinctively new this but for it to be so open is pretty nasty. Left coast liberal Jun 2015 #11

Warpy

(111,482 posts)
3. She's always hired tone deaf campaign handlers
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

and then remained fiercely loyal to them as they continued to fuck up.

Not her best quality.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
4. Someone posted part of it earlier today, your post prompted me to read the whole thing
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jun 2015

Unfortunately, I have to agree with pretty much everything about it. I don't think the party "leadership" at the higher levels understand why they win or lose elections. There is a level of self delusion that they can't seem to break through. I abhor politics, especially party politics with a passion. I am all about policy and outcome. I only registered as a Democrat because I needed to for working on campaigns for people that I found worth supporting.
As an example, the understanding of the losses in 2014 by the party where because people didn't vote. Sure, but why didn't they vote? Perhaps if the candidates were offering something to vote for and had a history that could make it believable more than 30% of my precinct might have gotten to the polls. And as they say when more people vote, Democrats win.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. The Party leadership is dead-set on MANAGING their base,
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jun 2015

rather than inspiring or energizing it.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
7. Therin lies the problem
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jun 2015

I quit working in 2002 because I could no longer be "managed" or dismissed as inconsequential. That was at an age that was way too young but I saw no worthwhile alternative. If the party thinks they can maintain that attitude I find it hard to see them maintaining the support they need to win elections.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
8. They use propaganda techniques on us.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jun 2015

The best way I can describe it is that they harvest votes to which they feel entitled, rather than earning them.

I don't play that game anymore.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
10. I think she's not only following that strategy
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jun 2015

(appeal to minorities and women) per the Obama campaign, I think she's trying to attack other candidates in that way so that they will play by her rules.

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Fundamental question here: Who is Victor that this story came from.....How can they say that Sanders isn't doing too well with non-whites when the campaign has had overwhelming turn-out in its first three weeks but just hasn't happened to go to states with large populations of people of color?



Bernie's campaign has been active for all of three weeks whereas Hillary's campaign has been active for 240 months! No comparison...Furthermore, the issue seemingly brought up is that Bernie suggested that Obama should be primaried in 2012.............I would ordinarily dismiss both of these for the rubbish that they are but you know the old saying ...................if you repeat a lie often enough...........

As I'll mention here - Bernie has yet to appeal to minority voters - his campaign/momentum is just building.

Furthermore, I suggest that his emphasis will be on class rather than race....Racial divisions are artificial creations of ruling elites - to prevent the people (the majority) from organizing for their civil liberties and social justice. If everyone has a job and is well paid, they don't care if their neighbor is black, brown or purple.
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