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Related: About this forumAssange: 'More Hillary Clinton LEAKS TO COME'
Speaking to Peston on Sunday, Mr Assange said Wikileaks has further information relating to claims circulating since 2015 that Clinton had in the past used her family's private email server for official communications.
onecaliberal
(33,211 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)your very same words while watching the video......
onecaliberal
(33,211 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)DO IT NOW!!!
onecaliberal
(33,211 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)I'm sick of the teasing.
Either post or shut the fuck up.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)I doubt the DNC will reverse their decision about Clinton.
Unfortunately any damning information will be viewed by clinton supporters as "helping drumpf".
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Sad and pathetic minds. I can't stand them even for a millisecond.
Segami
(14,923 posts)* These are competing government-associated hackers. One hacker is associated with military intelligence. The other is associated with what was the KGB. These are competing organizations within the Russian government orbit.
* One hack was in place since last summer. The other was initiated in April. The second could have eventually involved massive data downloads, since the target was the DNC's oppo research.
* The ability of the Russian government to hack their enemies is excellent.
* The article says the Russians "perceive" us as enemies. No, we are enemies, based on our own actions and rhetoric.
* Finally, what does this tell you about Clinton's unprofessionally managed home-brew server? The question hangs in the air. We looked at one law applying to national secrets here. Clearly, the requisite "gross negligence" is present; all that's missing is evidence of a hack. Could that be coming?
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Finally, what's the effect of this story appearing now? And why now? There are few clues in the story. To find out why this story is appearing, consider these snippets:
Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee ... according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach. ...
The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. ...
Some of the hackers had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend in a major computer cleanup campaign, the committee officials and experts said. ...
DNC leaders were tipped to the hack in late April. ...
CrowdStrike is continuing the forensic investigation, DNC lawyer Sussmann said. But at this time, it appears that no financial information or sensitive employee, donor or voter information was accessed by the Russian attackers, he said. ...
To reconstruct: The hack was discovered in April. Other political candidates' networks were also targeted. The cleanup was finished "last weekend" (June 11-12). All is now well, according to one of the few DNC officials cited, Michael Sussmann, a "DNC lawyer who is a partner with Perkins Coie in Washington."
So how did this story get released? Unnamed DNC "committee officials and security experts" and unnamed "U.S. officials" are cited above, which leads to the CrowdStrike official commenting officially and to Sussman, DNC lawyer, commenting. But what's the source for this story? Why wasn't it just buried?
The fact it wasn't buried suggests this isn't a friendly leak, one of those "let's pretend we're leaking in order to get our official messages out" leaks. This leak is (a) embarrassing to the DNC, and (b) supports the theory that the Clinton home-brew server was also hacked. It seems likely that someone not named in the story clued the Post (if they were first to receive it), and the Post went digging. I just don't see the DNC volunteering this information.
As to why it was published now, the timing seems unfortunate, especially in light of a spate of these kind of stories, which have started appearing recently. First, from oilprice.com, a pro-industry website, but one which is also solid analytically. This has been picked up in mainly right-wing venues, so perhaps it's questionable information, though "Reliable intelligence sources in the West have indicated that warnings had been received" could well be true. Note, however, no attribution as to who sent or who received the warnings. Note also the mention of Wikileaks. Hot on these heels we also find this story, from Wikileaks head Julian Assange himself, via USuncut.
cont'
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/06/russian-government-hackers-penetrated.html
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)when Assange says he has no doubt Hill won't be indicted, but that the FBI could make concessions - Is this why he is waiting? Is he bargaining release for his freedom? And Mannings? He mentions this in almost the same breath.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)4:42: :"pending publication"
Go to 5:07 "Loretta Lynch ... is the person in charge of our case." (she can't indict Hillary)... "The FBI can push for concessions in exchange for its lack of indictment.
Then at 6:00 -"Hillary Clinton has been pushing to prosecute others ... who technically violate these procedures" ie. Her procedures.
Sounds like blackmail. I don't know if I like Assange anymore...
Just sayin'. My guess he's holding out for that concession and the emails, if published, will be pretty lame, and then voila - Obama pardons Assange and Manning.
Or maybe its for a greater, longer lasting change in whistleblowing, and Assange, if this is what he's up to, can be excused.
What would Michael Ratner do?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Just release the shit already. Gotta be as easy as a tap on the "Enter" key.
Bob41213
(491 posts)Think they're related? I gotta believe this is what Assange is talking about.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)MSNBC's Chunky Toad seems too busy working on his comb hairdo.....Why isn't Tweety Matthews spitting up a storm, raining on his guests asking the tough questions, getting to the bottom of this story?......For weeks, Tweety was a non stop attack ferret, pounding and smearing Bernie night after night.....and now?....the sound of silence.......
On that note, this tune seems fitting.....