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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:00 PM Apr 2015

Bernie can't win?

How stupid is that?

Of course Bernie can win.

Anyone making a post on DU claiming that Bernie can't win should be looked at very closely.

In 9 months the first primaries begin. The convention is, iirc, September 2016. Let's get it on!!

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Bernie can't win? (Original Post) RobertEarl Apr 2015 OP
Most who say that are not being intentionally argumentative, they are simply NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1
I agree MissDeeds Apr 2015 #2
We have to shut that shit down immediately. Bernie is not a foil. He's not the straight man to Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #3
can i quote you with this? nt hopemountain Apr 2015 #13
Please do. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #20
He'll win if we vote him. smokey nj Apr 2015 #4
We can be the best organized also Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #6
Eyes on the prize!! smokey nj Apr 2015 #7
Purity tests are lame... Really? Agschmid Apr 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author hopemountain Apr 2015 #14
purity tests work for me with some hopemountain Apr 2015 #15
It depends on what he means by looked at very closely... Agschmid Apr 2015 #16
Closely watched RobertEarl May 2015 #30
Today a caller into Thom Hartmann said he is sending Bernie 10% of his income Cleita Apr 2015 #8
I just signed up for a monthly contribution BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #9
The attempt to minimize him is the first tactic BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #10
He can win it if we stop playing a loser game. Daemonaquila Apr 2015 #11
If you're ever working or volunteering for a campaign, you wouldn't say that Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12
_Bernie is in it to win it dicksmc3 Apr 2015 #17
They said that about President Obama, too. Shadowflash Apr 2015 #18
They said it about Jimmy Carter too. N/t lostnfound Apr 2015 #21
Bernie can win! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #19
He has a strong base Nite Owl Apr 2015 #22
He won't win if we let that meme get established. It is very important to get out the word totodeinhere Apr 2015 #23
He's impressive. There is something authentic about him. Want to hear more. libdem4life May 2015 #24
Not only is Bernie impressive RobertEarl May 2015 #25
I noticed that, too. Especially here, but that visual of the candidate's donors...pretty graphic. libdem4life May 2015 #28
Bernie can't win is the SheilaT May 2015 #26
Either of them can win RobertEarl May 2015 #27
Bernie can't win.... John Poet May 2015 #29

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. Most who say that are not being intentionally argumentative, they are simply
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015

being honest about their belief.

I may have said those exact words at one point, and for very good reasons.

But, I wont say them again because it is counterproductive.

I have given him my money and I am on his list of people who will be helping him.

It would be nice if EVERYBODY at DU stopped saying that, though.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. We have to shut that shit down immediately. Bernie is not a foil. He's not the straight man to
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:13 PM
Apr 2015

the Hillary comedy. This isn't Abbot and Costello. Bernie is in it to win it! Givem' hell, Bernie!

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. Purity tests are lame... Really?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015
Anyone making a post on DU claiming that Bernie can't win should be looked at very closely.

Response to Agschmid (Reply #5)

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
15. purity tests work for me with some
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:34 PM
Apr 2015

situations. however, your statement is akin to doing the very thing for which you criticize the op.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
16. It depends on what he means by looked at very closely...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:38 PM
Apr 2015

Does he want people who think Bernie can't win banned?

If so I don't feel that is fair. I'm not one of those people but I'd rather prove my point than have their voice silenced.

Maybe they have bad intentions, maybe they don't... but usually that becomes clear and the system (MIRT/ADMIN) will rectify that.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
30. Closely watched
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:55 PM
May 2015

Yep. The opposite of that would be ignored. We should not ignore those who say Bernie can't win. Not only because it is stupid, but because they need to be educated.

Had I meant blocked I would have wrote blocked. Thanks for your interest, but you may not want to be trying to rewrite what I write?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. Today a caller into Thom Hartmann said he is sending Bernie 10% of his income
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:22 PM
Apr 2015

every month until he no longer needs it. Imagine if everyone who supports him does something similar.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
9. I just signed up for a monthly contribution
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

And I don't believe in giving to candidates over charities. But I figure helping Bernie is a step towards trying to get money out of politics.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. The attempt to minimize him is the first tactic
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:40 PM
Apr 2015

They can't attack him on his positions without ripping of their liberal mask, so they attack him for not be a "serious" candidate because the can't raise $1Billion dollars.

More passive smears:
Too old
Funny hair
Young people won't like him
Socialist!

It's all over. But it's so easy to prove they aren't true. The reddit thread alone shows he appeals to young people--a lot.

Gandhi may not have said it, but it should should be Bernie's campaign slogan (seriously)

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
11. He can win it if we stop playing a loser game.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:43 PM
Apr 2015

We had Dennis Kucinich as a real candidate for the people, years ago. At my caucus, over 75% wanted him to be our candidate. At the end, 20% voted their conscience, under pressure that "he can't win." Guess which candidate who "could win" didn't win, folks? We can't say that Dennis would've won that year if people had stuck to their convictions, but we can say that a lot more motivated folks would've been pounding the pavement for a candidate they believed in.

Go Bernie!

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. If you're ever working or volunteering for a campaign, you wouldn't say that
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

People are entitled to their opinions but it's a bad message to send out if you're trying to promote a candidate.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
17. _Bernie is in it to win it
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:39 PM
Apr 2015

Thom Hartmann agrees that Bernie may win because right now Bernie is almost at the same polling level as Barack Obama. Was in 2008.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
18. They said that about President Obama, too.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:01 PM
Apr 2015

2008 was supposed to be Clinton's year but it didn't work out that way.

It looks like it may not be working out for her again.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
22. He has a strong base
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:14 PM
Apr 2015

a record for anyone to be envious of, he connects with real people. The money part will come.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
23. He won't win if we let that meme get established. It is very important to get out the word
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:16 PM
Apr 2015

that Bernie is in this to win. He is not in it to push Hillary Clinton to the left (although of course if she moves to the left that is a good thing.) Bernie is in it because he wants to win and he can win.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
25. Not only is Bernie impressive
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:31 AM
May 2015

The groundswell of support being seen is very impressive. We may be witnessing one of the greatest political movements of our lives.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
26. Bernie can't win is the
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

contrapositive of Hillary will win.

Neither statement is true at this point.

It is my belief that Hillary is far more vulnerable than her supporters understand, and that Bernie is far more electable than his detractors realize. That's not to say that she will lose and he will win, or vice versa. It is to say that the whole question of electability is far more complex than a lot of people get.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
27. Either of them can win
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:19 AM
May 2015

True, at this point it is just stupid to say Bernie can't win. And so we watch and see who might make such stupid statements?

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