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Elizabeth Warren Has Clouds and Shadows Around Her Campaign. We've Seen This Movie Before.
When you've learned nothing from 2016. Or the decades before.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
MAY 23, 2019
...While another storeroom at Manafort House of Felonies was being pried open, the Post also revealed that Senator Professor Warren was so good at her job, and knew so much about the kind of law she teaches, that people hired her as an expert to help them in actual legal cases. I, for one, am puzzled as to why this is news, especially since it comes from SPW's own disclosure forms. But I have a suspicion that shadows soon will be following this story, and clouds will begin to obscure it. Questions will arise. I know how this stuff works by now.
First of all, at least with regard to the asbestos case, she discussed it all throughout her first Senate campaign because Scott Brown never shut up about it, even though he clearly didn't understand the details of the work she'd done. Second, notice how the bold-faced elements of the story produce the clouds and shadows. That's what they're supposed to do. This is how elite newspapers get into bed with ratfckers like Peter Schweitzer and Clinton Cash....
Bullshit. Pure, unadulterated, stupid bullshit that's been flung at every wealthy candidate who ever tried to rejigger the economy so that most people get a better deal out of it. Both Roosevelts, all of the Kennedys. It's aged-in-the-wood nonsense....
Oh, for the love of god, Marty Baron, this is cheap. You couldn't verify the Dow Corning settlement fund numbers, but you feel safe in saying SPW was cast as X,Y, and Z? And for the cherry on top?
Here's a pro tip: a lot of people, especially women people, watched what happened with the coverage of Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign in 2016 and they've grown wise in the ways of clouds and shadows. This kind of thing is going to get called out from now on, and the people writing it should get used to that fact. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on...you don't get fooled again. A president said that once.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27572664/elizabeth-warren-outside-legal-advice-asbestos/
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Ninga
(8,283 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(84,103 posts)Sounds like they are using smoke and mirrors to make this a something-burger when it's not. She had every right to work two jobs.
They can lay off my Senator.
Thank you Charles Pierce.
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dragonlady
(3,577 posts)shows how well prepared she is to be President. That is a demanding job that requires hard work, great stamina, and the ability to multitask.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hekate
(91,059 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pansypoo53219
(21,018 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)back when she tried. Both are admirable women, but Hillary's the one who should have run first on "I have a plan for that!" Because, boy, did she! Our huge loss.
Now, me, I spit whenever I think of those who failed our nation terribly by not voting for her. They deserve and are responsible for what the Republicans are doing every bit as much as those who voted directly for him.
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BlueMTexpat
(15,376 posts)for calling this crap what it is!
Unadulterated BS!
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demigoddess
(6,645 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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so, when are we going to get to see the last 10 years of he who shall not be named or redacted .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BigOleDummy
(2,272 posts)Is one of the most impressive politicians I've ever seen in my 63 years. She knows her shit, isn't afraid of anything and she's a FIGHTER! Something I (sadly) believe the Democratic Party is in short supply of. *sigh* Dream ticket = Warren/Buttigieg
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appal_jack
(3,813 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
question everything
(47,616 posts)as opposed to what? Women squirrels?
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paleotn
(18,015 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)This was her role in a Dow Chemical case that for sure he who shall not e named and those using him to take out Democrats will try to use against her. Again.
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Moostache
(9,897 posts)It just seemed impossible...
I mean that is a looooooooooooooooooooooow bar to clear, and our current Usurper-in-chief can't even manage THAT...gawd, I wish 'teh stoopid' burned...
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pnwmom
(109,028 posts)has Trump released? Or her opponents?
Why are there always higher standards for a woman?
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msongs
(67,509 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ms liberty
(8,633 posts)And the title is in bolded text at the link. There is no bolded text in the clips in the body of the post. So I'm not sure why you said this?
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mcar
(42,480 posts)Where did I bold anything?
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kcr
(15,331 posts)Have them look at it for ya.
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NYMinute
(3,256 posts)$675/hr for someone of her caliber is cheap because lawyers with that level of expertise get $2000 to $3000 per hour very easily.
It is a complete non-story and it may have originated because another senator is afraid that Senator Warren is getting a lot of the support he feels entitled to. We should check the story's origination for David Sirota's DNA and fingerprints.
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As long as it was legal, I don't see the relevance.
Not one of the candidates is pure. No one is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,480 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)I support Elizabeth Warren.
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betsuni
(25,845 posts)Glad to see so many people are sick of it.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,480 posts)Thus Pierce's clouds and shadows, a la how they reported on HRC.
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dlk
(11,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ariadne0614
(1,747 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
turbinetree
(24,745 posts)and then getting in bed with ratf*ckers .........................Touche............. Charlie Pierce................. Touche.................
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NYMinute
(3,256 posts)is spreading these smears
They think if Senator Warren is brought down, their candidate will go up in numbers.
NOT THIS TIME - we know their plan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,480 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden