Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Says VP Pick Will Be a Woman...Hours After Saying People Shouldn't Consider Gender
by Tommy Christopher | Feb 20th, 2019, 3:45 pm
Independent Vermont Senator and 2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says hed like to select a woman who is younger than he is as his running mate, just hours after he said voters should not consider race, age, or gender in a presidential candidate.
Sanders sat for a lengthy interview with The Young Turks Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian on Tuesday, hours after announcing his candidacy for president. The subject of what Sanders often refers to as identity politics came up in a few surprising ways.
Kasparian told Sanders that what concerns me is some of what we saw during the 2016 election, and asked were their specific lessons that you learned during that election that youre going to really look out for moving forward, and what are those lessons?
Yes, yes, we have been criticized, correctly so, for running a campaign that was too white and too male-oriented, and that is going to change, Sanders said. We are going to have a very very diverse campaign staff, and were going to do a better job of reaching out to every community in this country.
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https://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-says-vp-pick-will-be-a-woman-hours-after-saying-people-shouldnt-consider-gender/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,001 posts)And an awareness of that fact would mean that a candidate may want to consider it as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,001 posts)In case that's it, here's another example that might make the logic clearer.
"People shouldn't drink and drive" and "people do drink and drive" are not contradictory. (They're obviously both true.)
And an awareness of that fact would mean that sobriety check points could still be a good idea, even though they are addressing a situation that "shouldn't" exist.
Does that clear it up?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)already announced their candidacy. Jill Stein maybe?????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PTWB
(4,131 posts)MAGAt heads explode across the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I can't think of a more unpalatable ticket though.
Yeah, I know she is running, but she is gonna be out super early.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)When Meghan McCain gets the best of you your candidacy is in trouble. She looked unprepared for her appearance on the show, almost like she was expecting soft balls. I felt sorry for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I don't know what your watching.. she shut her down & made her look ill informed reading off a script (probably fed to her by a NeoCon).. Since when do Dems support Trump on foreign policy??
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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namahage
(1,157 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Not likely.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,191 posts)I'd hope she supports Booker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)Gosh, if she is, it's disappointing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,191 posts)and yes I do believe she did vote for Stein.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)They were seen at the movies together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Oh I see you got her downthread, lol!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)who choose running mates based on the criterion that they "are not of the same gender" as he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,665 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)You're welcome.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)An excellent, articulate African American woman with passion and a proven record.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(84,072 posts)Requirements for the President of the United States - Elections ...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/.../requirements-for-president.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,001 posts)...will be available to choose for the VP slot at the convention, unless they, themselves, won the nomination, in which case Bernie's preference is moot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)imho
he probably has her decided actually
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,798 posts)SMH
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,368 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I was hoping this forum would be above this sort of thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Obviously, only the nominee does this, and it won't be Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(84,072 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)I hope RBG isn't disappointed.
Funny how BS said one thing to the locals via Vermont Public Radio:
and the exact opposite to the "progressive" audience that Republican multi-millionaire Buddy Roemer's business partner (aka Cenk) draws on Youtube:
Is that what they mean by micro-targeting?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,019 posts)Republicans have questionable motives and agendas. What are the odds that an ex-Republican goes from anti-Democrat Republican to a liberal progressive. Just look at that manipulative message.
This is a big catch, lapucelle. Thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Which soundbite accurately reflects the truth? I remember when he told Chuck Todd
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-september-17-2017-n802121
That just didn't quite sound right or make much sense. (It's probably just me.) I've read that short term memory loss can be a real problem. That's why I keep bookmarks.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029606501#post87
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,019 posts)confusion on his status. That is a lot of double speak there, some of it seems to be intentionally so. I wonder if he will be confronted on these gross contradictions....
Great posts, lapucelle!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)Check out page 9, article VI....it will come in handy.
https://www.demrulz.org/wp-content/files/2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,019 posts)statements now? That is a great addition to the requirements. I am proud of my party and dont appreciate this divisiveness over it.
These are great bookmarks. 👍
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)She's the one who deserves a hat tip.
Never mess with a teacher...especially one who is also an attorney and a union president.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)will consider Sanders for VP?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)I would imagine?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)thought!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)unless and until he takes and satisfactorily answers questions concerning the allegations of sexual harassment and violence, an untenable and dangerous dynamic, and a pervasive, predatory culture within his campaign the last time around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)thought of Gabbard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,411 posts)But something tells me that between the signed affirmation, the allegation of sexual violence, and the mysterious missing taxes, he won't be long in the running.
Mahalo!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)Mahalo to you, lapucelle!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeapotInATempest
(804 posts)I'm annoyed at both of them now, honestly, although I like them both in general. I really hate to feel pandered to, you know? Feels condescending.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GlennRuss
(20 posts)Agree 100%
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Then he didn't. He said he was going to release his tax returns. Then he didn't.
I don't understand why anyone would believe anything he says at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)BTW since you just joined yesterday, welcome to Democratic Underground.
And since you are so new you really should review https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice
Happy posting!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jose Garcia
(2,612 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mike Nelson
(9,990 posts)
I will be looking to balance the ticket. We have a lot of diversity in the party, so why put two of the same thing on the ticket?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dogman
(6,073 posts)Balancing the ticket is nothing new. We see it with race, religion, region, why not gender?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Bet hell pick Nina Turner.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dogman
(6,073 posts)Everyone knows that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Politics
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarthFirst
(2,906 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I am looking forward to it..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)We have a new generation of DEMOCRATS ready to kick Trump's ass, you know...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...are two entirely different things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)he expects us to listen to his heart but ignore his voice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)when it suits him
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radius777
(3,635 posts)when he has railed many times against "identity politics".. at least stick to your principles.. seems he wants it both ways.
It should be noted that Sanders movement is identity politics also, just from the white side.
And there's nothing I've seen sofar (on social media, IRL, etc) that seems to be different in tone from his most vocal supporters, who are often vicious in their critique of Dems, and appear to be going after Kamala (who is the early favorite in this field) in a similar way they went after Hillary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
enid602
(8,678 posts)i've heard Jane is available. I think she's tired of academia.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bhikkhu
(10,726 posts)where he actually says that, the writer and the poster are on my shit list. Or at least my "I'm disappointed in you" list. Same goes for any article about any candidate...I was as fed up as I could get over that shit years ago.
If an article says someone said something and then it's not really what was said, that's just the kind of trash journalism that does us no good. Coming back with "well that's what he must have meant" or "it's implied by a certain reading of the words" doesn't cut it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,815 posts)That's what he said when asked what attributes he would look for in a Vice President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bhikkhu
(10,726 posts)As opposed to the headline, which reads more like a promise to choose a woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I know who I would want.. & it sounds like it may happen..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided