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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:15 PM Jan 2020

BERN NOTICE: Bernie vs Biden On Having a GOP Runningmate

Bernie 2020
Bern Notice is a production of the Bernie 2020 campaign.


During the holiday week Joe Biden told an audience that if he wins the Democratic primary, he is open to putting a Republican on the ticket. At an Iowa press conference yesterday, Bernie drew a contrast, declaring that if he wins the Democratic nomination, he will not have a Republican as vice president.

Biden’s comments are only the latest in a series of declarations in which Biden has touted and boosted Republicans:

Those comments underscore how Biden has repeatedly broken with Democrats and helped Republicans in the Senate. Biden undermined congressional Democratic opposition and voted with Republicans for the Iraq War, welfare cuts, mass incarceration, financial deregulation, the bankruptcy bill and corporate-written trade deals. By contrast, Bernie led the fight against those policies.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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BERN NOTICE: Bernie vs Biden On Having a GOP Runningmate (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
Oh dear god; people cannot possibly be that stupid. Come on. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #1
But they CAN be that self destructive. They did it last Hortensis Jan 2020 #22
Evidently this is still an issue with some Gothmog Jan 2020 #54
Only because they want it to be. Thanks, Goth. Jebus! emmaverybo Jan 2020 #56
David Sirota at it again. George II Jan 2020 #2
Like this?.. only that was much Worse so far.. Cha Jan 2020 #29
Steven! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #31
Yes, he was always Cha Jan 2020 #40
I wonder how his adorable baby girl is. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #41
Yeah, Steven's little baby girl is probably Cha Jan 2020 #44
Wow, Sirota really wanted Trump to win. betsuni Jan 2020 #38
sirota was workin' it.. still is. Cha Jan 2020 #43
Truth. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #3
Bingo! Paka Jan 2020 #9
Truth? pfeiffer Jan 2020 #10
THIS SETTLES IT, BERNIE IS THE #1 LOYAL DEMOCRAT BY HIS REFUSAL TO PICK A REPUKE AS VP. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #21
This settles it? George II Jan 2020 #39
Why? Did someone pick a republican as a VP? Eko Jan 2020 #46
Trumpster "truth." The same words and same attitudes Hortensis Jan 2020 #25
Oh my... WA-03 Democrat Jan 2020 #4
will bernie have a democrat as veep? nt msongs Jan 2020 #5
Of course not! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #12
Point Out the lies in this recitation of the Biden Record ritapria Jan 2020 #6
What about the ENTIRE. quote? Lochloosa Jan 2020 #8
"really decent Republicans"?!?!?! That's when Joe sunk to dead last on my preferred candidate list. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #63
Well bless his muthafuckin heart. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #7
.. Cha Jan 2020 #23
I can't stand negative campaigns TruthTeller0505 Jan 2020 #11
Aha! Yes!! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #14
Hmm. JudyM Jan 2020 #19
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Jan 2020 #28
Thank you. TruthTeller0505 Jan 2020 #30
Better question: Does Bernie plan on picking a Democrat as his running mate? Drunken Irishman Jan 2020 #13
They shouldn't link to an article mentioning the 1994 crime bill that Bernie voted for. betsuni Jan 2020 #15
You took that out of context. Here's the complete quote: thesquanderer Jan 2020 #59
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. betsuni Jan 2020 #64
My husband had a wild idea- Bernie's pick for VP - Hillary. Peregrine Took Jan 2020 #16
Oh, that won't happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #36
That's funny Hav Jan 2020 #17
+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #18
Yes, sirota can and does Cha Jan 2020 #24
Fact remains that, over the past 30 years, Sanders has been more progressive than Biden overall. n/t thesquanderer Jan 2020 #60
Bernie is drawing distinguishing points between him and biden. Joe941 Jan 2020 #20
and of course they leave out the full context still_one Jan 2020 #26
sirota was a pusher of jill stein's LIES in the General Election.. Cha Jan 2020 #27
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jan 2020 #34
Would Bernie pick a Jill Stein voter as his VP? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #32
Why not? He isn't a Democrat either. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #37
Nobody is going to pick a Republican running mate. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #33
Bernie fought against all that stuff? boomer_wv Jan 2020 #35
Biden open to a GOP Veep when so many of us who are terrified at what the Repubs have done... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #42
I actually like people that are open to possibilities. Eko Jan 2020 #47
If Biden actually said that LeftTurn3623 Jan 2020 #45
"Joe Biden says he would consider a Republican for his running mate" brooklynite Jan 2020 #48
I cannot believe this LeftTurn3623 Jan 2020 #62
He was asked a "gotcha" question, and answered in a way that sounded bipartisan, but dismissed it LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #65
The Sanders supporters who push this nonsense SharonClark Jan 2020 #49
+∞ LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #50
He teed himself up like a golf ball. Aaron Pereira Jan 2020 #51
We're still on this? RandySF Jan 2020 #52
I agree with Ezra Klein that these attacks on Vice President Biden are silly Gothmog Jan 2020 #53
Oh, please. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #55
Hmmm "how Biden has repeatedly broken with Democrats " Me. Jan 2020 #57
We all know who is famous for lambasting the Democratic Party, and oasis Jan 2020 #58
Biden said he was open to CONSIDERING a Republican, but that was not all he said. MineralMan Jan 2020 #61
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
1. Oh dear god; people cannot possibly be that stupid. Come on.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. But they CAN be that self destructive. They did it last
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

time, and they're willing to do it again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,666 posts)
54. Evidently this is still an issue with some
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
56. Only because they want it to be. Thanks, Goth. Jebus!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:59 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. David Sirota at it again.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:20 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
29. Like this?.. only that was much Worse so far..
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,955 posts)
31. Steven!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jan 2020

I miss him here, Cha.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
40. Yes, he was always
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jan 2020

dead on and still is

I just saw the other day that he follows me on twitter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,955 posts)
41. I wonder how his adorable baby girl is.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

If you get a chance say Hi to him for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
44. Yeah, Steven's little baby girl is probably
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jan 2020

walking by now.

I will definitely say Hi for you, she.. you never know when I'll run into him.. say Hi for myself, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,687 posts)
38. Wow, Sirota really wanted Trump to win.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jan 2020

I miss Steven Leser.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
43. sirota was workin' it.. still is.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jan 2020


I know.. I miss Steven Leser, too!

2020!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Paka

(2,760 posts)
9. Bingo!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jan 2020

The truth can hurt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
10. Truth?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jan 2020

Bawahahahahaha!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
21. THIS SETTLES IT, BERNIE IS THE #1 LOYAL DEMOCRAT BY HIS REFUSAL TO PICK A REPUKE AS VP.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

And that's exactly why Bernie has so many devoted working class folks and so many small, i.e. non-elite, donors who are LOYAL TO HIM!!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(7,384 posts)
46. Why? Did someone pick a republican as a VP?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Trumpster "truth." The same words and same attitudes
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jan 2020

toward truth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WA-03 Democrat

(3,056 posts)
4. Oh my...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020

The malarkey is deep in this one.

Sen. Bernie Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee.

Go Joe Go!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,462 posts)
5. will bernie have a democrat as veep? nt
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
12. Of course not!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jan 2020

Cuz he's not even a Democrat!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
6. Point Out the lies in this recitation of the Biden Record
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lochloosa

(16,073 posts)
8. What about the ENTIRE. quote?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020

The answer is I would, but I can't think of one now," Biden replied. "Let me explain that. You know there's some really decent Republicans that are out there still, but here's the problem right now ... they've got to step up."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
63. "really decent Republicans"?!?!?! That's when Joe sunk to dead last on my preferred candidate list.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jan 2020

There are no really decent RepukelicKKKons At least Tulsi hasn't said she'd consider putting a Rethug on the ticket as VP.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
7. Well bless his muthafuckin heart. nt
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TruthTeller0505

(40 posts)
11. I can't stand negative campaigns
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jan 2020

I'm for Bernie but my second choice is Joe, so you can see this stuff is upsetting. Since I like them both, I have been watching both campaigns. Joe Biden's campaign is about Trump and uniting everyone.


All this is going to do is amplify all the times Bernie has tried to court Trump supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
14. Aha! Yes!!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

I totally agree with you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
28. Welcome to DU!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

I know some people who support Joe as well as Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
13. Better question: Does Bernie plan on picking a Democrat as his running mate?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

I don't care if Bernie declares he won't have a Republican as his running mate. Does he plan on selecting a Democrat?

I'm almost 1,000% sure Biden would.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,687 posts)
15. They shouldn't link to an article mentioning the 1994 crime bill that Bernie voted for.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jan 2020

Awkward when saying "Bernie led the fight against those policies."

Bernie: "It is my firm belief that, clearly, there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
59. You took that out of context. Here's the complete quote:
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jan 2020
It is my firm belief that clearly there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them.

But it is also my view that through the neglect of our government and through a grossly irrational set of priorities, we are dooming today tens of millions of young people to a future of bitterness, misery, hopelessness, drugs, crime, and violence. And, Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world — and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country — and all of the executions … in the world will not make that situation right.

We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails. Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance.

It is the common rhetorical device of starting a rebuttal by conceding some amount of truth to the position of your opponent before explaining why you feel he is wrong. It is disingenuous to quote only his preamble agreement without showing that he goes on to emphasize the opposite position.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,687 posts)
64. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jan 2020

He did something much much worse, and on purpose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
16. My husband had a wild idea- Bernie's pick for VP - Hillary.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jan 2020

Would mend the big rift and she could then run for Pres when his term is up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
36. Oh, that won't happen.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jan 2020

Didn't you know that to Bernie, Hillary is just another corporatist sellout?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. That's funny
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jan 2020

Someone who voted for Stein and railed against Clinton talks about breaking with the Democrats. He can seriously write that and discuss his garbage with all the other Stein voters and Clinton haters employed by the Bernie campaign.
And as for policies, Bernie did break with the Democrats often enough, for example, on gun issues and Russia sanctions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
24. Yes, sirota can and does
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:34 PM
Jan 2020

because he doesn't give a shite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
60. Fact remains that, over the past 30 years, Sanders has been more progressive than Biden overall. n/t
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
20. Bernie is drawing distinguishing points between him and biden.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jan 2020

Biden. Commend Bernie for this statement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,454 posts)
26. and of course they leave out the full context
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:37 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,805 posts)
27. sirota was a pusher of jill stein's LIES in the General Election..
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

wtaf does he know?


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,178 posts)
32. Would Bernie pick a Jill Stein voter as his VP?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
37. Why not? He isn't a Democrat either.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
33. Nobody is going to pick a Republican running mate.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jan 2020

For people to get their panties in a twist about this is stupid. I just wish Bernie would stop bashing Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
35. Bernie fought against all that stuff?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jan 2020

So....Bernie has been beaten in everything he's ever fought for? Just what we need, a loser.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
42. Biden open to a GOP Veep when so many of us who are terrified at what the Repubs have done...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

...is a rookie mistake at best. We need to elect Bernie to draw a sharper and proper distinction between our parties.

As my Mom used to say, "faint heart never won over a fair lady."

And if any Dem has been paying a bit of attention in the last 40 years, it should be obvious that we need MORE DEMS in offices, NOT A REPUB!

(cue the desperate little jokes from the Biden supporters)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(7,384 posts)
47. I actually like people that are open to possibilities.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jan 2020

It keeps them from drinking the cool aid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
45. If Biden actually said that
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jan 2020

I would have a complete different opinion of Biden. Is there a link to him saying that?

That would be so disrespectful and I probably wouldn’t EVER support him. And I would be pissed I donated ( even though it wasn’t much ) to his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
48. "Joe Biden says he would consider a Republican for his running mate"
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jan 2020
CNN

Exeter, New Hampshire (CNN)Joe Biden told voters in New Hampshire on Monday that he would consider choosing a Republican as a running mate, but added, "I can't think of one right now."

Biden discussed the possibility after a woman told the former vice president that if he is the nominee, he will "have to pull out all the stops."

"Our 21-year-old son said the other night, 'I wonder if Joe Biden would consider choosing a Republican as a running mate," the woman added.

"The answer is I would, but I can't think of one now," Biden replied. "Let me explain that. You know there's some really decent Republicans that are out there still, but here's the problem right now ... they've got to step up."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
62. I cannot believe this
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

this is outrageous - what the hell is going on?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
65. He was asked a "gotcha" question, and answered in a way that sounded bipartisan, but dismissed it
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jan 2020

out of hand.

Exactly what he should have done

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
49. The Sanders supporters who push this nonsense
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020

Are revealing more about themselves and their willingness to be persuaded by and perpetuate lies about Biden (this time) is so disappointing.

It makes it very hard to accept Bernie and his supporters as trustworthy.

NO ONE believes Biden will select a repug but many fear Sanders may select one of his Democratic-hating, Jill Stein supporting acolytes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
51. He teed himself up like a golf ball.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:52 PM
Jan 2020

Lock up the nomination first and then make a comment of that type.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,666 posts)
53. I agree with Ezra Klein that these attacks on Vice President Biden are silly
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
57. Hmmm "how Biden has repeatedly broken with Democrats "
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

clearly we have a pot/kettle situation here and a complete absence of introspection.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,429 posts)
58. We all know who is famous for lambasting the Democratic Party, and
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 05:20 AM
Jan 2020

it ain't Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
61. Biden said he was open to CONSIDERING a Republican, but that was not all he said.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

He is not going to name a Republican as a VP candidate. There are too many very well qualified Democrats who are far more suitable. This is a bogus campaign issue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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