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mahina

(17,717 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:15 PM Jan 2020

"I want all 24 Democratic candidates for President to convene a joint press conference outside the

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worst of the facilities where toddlers are being held in their own filth with no blankets, no beds, no soap, no showers. I want all the candidates, with no exceptions to demand the doors be opened. I want them to demand a tour.

I would like the candidates to show up with people from the Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders and UNICEF. I want the candidates to personally render aid to the children- on camera. At the very least, I want it on camera when officials refuse entry to a federal facility to senators, Congress people, governors and the national press. I want to see the guards showing their guns to block them.

I want this planned carefully. I want it publicized before, during and after. I want Fox News shamed into being there, then I want Fox News shamed into showing it. I want the candidates to agree to stand together, unified, and prepared to stay for hours. I want them to only grant interviews in teams and I want them to keep on topic. I want no self-promoting words from anyone. I want their actions to speak.

I want the DNC to set up everything necessary for a rally- refreshments, stands, shelter- and make sure this event is open to the public and well publicized beforehand. I want to see everyone unified in naming this part of the U.S.A’s new concentration camp system. No equivocating. I don’t want any more lip service to outrage- I want us to see the outrage in such a way that anyone who is turning a blind eye to the outrage can no longer deny its existence. The logistics for this would be hard but you cannot convince me it cannot be done, if there really is a will to save these children, there is a way.

Would that be blatantly using children for political props? Maybe, but it would definitely be an
attempt to rescue children who are already being used as political props.

I want someone to do something for those babies. Now.”

John Poppy


The author put this in his high school class notes. I think his idea is outstanding and would really help. DUers who have a way to be heard by the primary candidates, please share this with them.

I left everything just as he wrote it.

Here is something that can be done to help, finally. Rather than letting the primaries divide us, be in unity and solidarity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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"I want all 24 Democratic candidates for President to convene a joint press conference outside the (Original Post) mahina Jan 2020 OP
Unfortunately, it won't happen. Trump is tearing us apart and Democrats are talking Doodley Jan 2020 #1
I can't believe how long American primaries go on for LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #34
Thank you, mahina. democrank Jan 2020 #2
So true Democrank. mahina Jan 2020 #13
Do you have a link for the essay? N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #3
Nope, I had to type it in myself. mahina Jan 2020 #5
Yes it would be great if that happens. But it really wouldn't change anything as long totodeinhere Jan 2020 #4
We don't really know that, do we? mahina Jan 2020 #7
Of course it's only my opinion, but if we can't voice opinions here there wouldn't be much to totodeinhere Jan 2020 #9
I disagree. mahina Jan 2020 #12
Granted. Many of these so-called 'evangelical Christians' are in fact sadists. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #16
Of course. The first step is to defeat him in 2020. Then the long road to healing can begin. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #26
I'm sure you heard my sigh. The road to recovery of our republic from PatrickforO Jan 2020 #28
Thank you for bringing this here, mahina. blm Jan 2020 #6
Lol, intrepid keyboard warrior I guess. mahina Jan 2020 #8
Heh. That we are, Patriot. That be we. blm Jan 2020 #10
Man, I read you. mahina Jan 2020 #11
This is great! I will definitely be doing as much as I can, as I said in PatrickforO Jan 2020 #14
Damn good post that you linked. Let's make it so. mahina Jan 2020 #17
✔️ blm Jan 2020 #20
Email, call this in to Tom Perez -- the best proof of the difference to America between blue and red ancianita Jan 2020 #15
Right? mahina Jan 2020 #18
I'd look him up online, find a "contact" link and try that first. He might even provide an email. ancianita Jan 2020 #19
Send to Perez, and your state chair too. yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #23
Thank you, will do. Jon Poppy wrote the letter, mahina Jan 2020 #27
Please do so as well, especially if you know anyone who can move John Polly's idea forward. mahina Jan 2020 #29
Now that's a loyalty oath we all should take! JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #21
Yes, yes, yes! cp Jan 2020 #22
Won't happen. Here is why. James48 Jan 2020 #24
See: mahina Jan 2020 #25
So who is in loco parentis if they have lost the parents? mahina Jan 2020 #32
Thank you for this. It is worth a try, better than doing nothing. Lady_Chat Jan 2020 #30
Thank you, Lady_Chat. mahina Jan 2020 #31
No, thank you, Mahina! Lady_Chat Jan 2020 #37
Crimes Against Humanity Must Be Attacked Ferociously, Triply So For The Children corbettkroehler Jan 2020 #33
It is Past Time for This: It Must Happen! McKim Jan 2020 #35
Great idea! Karadeniz Jan 2020 #36
 

Doodley

(9,151 posts)
1. Unfortunately, it won't happen. Trump is tearing us apart and Democrats are talking
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020

about which Democrat voted for or against war on Iraq and which Democrat is supposedly doomed with a healthcare plan for all. While Trump burns the world to the ground, we are still looking inwards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
34. I can't believe how long American primaries go on for
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

It creates a lot of time for resentments to stew.
In Canada, and I suspect for most democracies it's similar, it runs for about 6 weeks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

democrank

(11,112 posts)
2. Thank you, mahina.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:34 PM
Jan 2020

I can’t understand why so many important stories fade away. We should not allow that to happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
13. So true Democrank.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jan 2020

You bet. He wrote a brilliant letter. Hope his idea moves forward to reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,365 posts)
3. Do you have a link for the essay? N/T
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
5. Nope, I had to type it in myself.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jan 2020

I expect it will be searchable eventually as I have since looked up the person who wrote it and found that he lives on Kauai now.

This is the Fall 2019 issue so is not yet online and won’t be for some time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
4. Yes it would be great if that happens. But it really wouldn't change anything as long
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:38 PM
Jan 2020

as Trump is in office. Sadly, Trump and his mindless supporters want it to be that way. They get pleasure from causing such suffering.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
7. We don't really know that, do we?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
9. Of course it's only my opinion, but if we can't voice opinions here there wouldn't be much to
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jan 2020

talk about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
12. I disagree.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020

Even chalking public sidewalks, letters to our electeds, letters to the editor, conversations, protests, so many countless ways to be heard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,599 posts)
16. Granted. Many of these so-called 'evangelical Christians' are in fact sadists.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

BUT...

It may be that much of the nation could be shamed into doing something about this. It would be something. And something is better than nothing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
26. Of course. The first step is to defeat him in 2020. Then the long road to healing can begin.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020

n/t

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,599 posts)
28. I'm sure you heard my sigh. The road to recovery of our republic from
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

the party of Trump will be long and painful.

We have to keep our chins up, though. Because it is before us. Let's just hope Trump is soundly defeated. Because if he gets another term we are well and truly fucked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,113 posts)
6. Thank you for bringing this here, mahina.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020

Retyping an essay you can’t copy is commitment, old buddy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
8. Lol, intrepid keyboard warrior I guess.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,113 posts)
10. Heh. That we are, Patriot. That be we.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jan 2020

Heheh. Sure would be nice to have a year off. ; )

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mahina

(17,717 posts)
11. Man, I read you.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,599 posts)
14. This is great! I will definitely be doing as much as I can, as I said in
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jan 2020

a post I did this morning on this topic.

I LOVE this idea and will begin promoting it. Not that I have much say with the candidates, but if enough of us contact those we support maybe they will do.

Here's my post from earlier today: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212830156

Let's hope that we can bring about a 2020 that is happier than 2019 was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
17. Damn good post that you linked. Let's make it so.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,161 posts)
15. Email, call this in to Tom Perez -- the best proof of the difference to America between blue and red
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jan 2020

This is SUCH a great idea. Thank you!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
18. Right?
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020

I hadn’t thought of Tom Perez. Good idea.

I wonder if I have to find a political person to route it through for him to get it?

The author of the letter, John Poppy, sounds like he’s got a really good head on his shoulders so he may have already done so for all I know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,161 posts)
19. I'd look him up online, find a "contact" link and try that first. He might even provide an email.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jan 2020

Give it a try! Oh yeah, and ask the author if it's all right with him if you pass this on. It could really be a great party unifier!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
23. Send to Perez, and your state chair too.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020

anyone you know in Congress candidate or not, and all the candidates' campaign managers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
27. Thank you, will do. Jon Poppy wrote the letter,
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:50 PM
Jan 2020

And I’ll credit him.

I’m hoping to hear from him too.

I’ll send to Brian Schatz, Mazie Hirono and Ed Case.

Maybe my own Rep too.

Mahalo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
29. Please do so as well, especially if you know anyone who can move John Polly's idea forward.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:32 AM
Jan 2020

I will too. Aloha.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
21. Now that's a loyalty oath we all should take!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jan 2020

Great idea! I would join them myself!

Thanks for posting!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

James48

(4,444 posts)
24. Won't happen. Here is why.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jan 2020

1. Most of the kids are in private, corporation contractor care facilities. (The $750 a night kiddie care, remember?)
Government officials don’t have contractural rights to trespass into those private Corp facilities without a Court Order. Trump is stuffing the courts. Good luck with that.

2. Both federal holding cell regulations , federal laws and state laws prevent disclosing identities or Filming of children without parental consent. No parent available to give consent, no filming permitted.

3. Showing up at a particular location will simply provide those operating it a chance to move a lot of kids elsewhere, and create a faked Potemkin-type heavenly haven to show the press, IF they ever are allowed in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
25. See:
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jan 2020

“ At the very least, I want it on camera when officials refuse entry to a federal facility to senators, Congress people, governors and the national press. I want to see the guards showing their guns to block them. “
John Poppy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
32. So who is in loco parentis if they have lost the parents?
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:52 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
30. Thank you for this. It is worth a try, better than doing nothing.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:11 AM
Jan 2020

And right that's exactly what we are doing...nothing, and it's sad and it's depressing. I notice even with Trump supporters they don't like this being brought up, and they don't like it, because even they know it's wrong. The most awful fact besides where these children are being held, is that it's highly unlikely they will even be reunited with their parents. The trauma these children have suffered, and will be suffering, was unnecessary and just plain cruel. Yet it goes ignored....why? This would be a good thing for our candidates to unify behind. I think the next time I'm asked for money by one of our candidates, which is very often, I will ask what you have suggested and see what their response is. I will try and get a response from the DNC. I will also contact my representatives. Thank you!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mahina

(17,717 posts)
31. Thank you, Lady_Chat.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:51 AM
Jan 2020

The person who wrote it, whom I haven’t met, is John Poppy. He sent it in to his high school’s alumni notes. That’s breaking a norm, and we need to do much more of it.

With gratitude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
37. No, thank you, Mahina!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:28 AM
Jan 2020

I so appreciate you sharing John Poppy's notes, it's important that people speak out, and not let these children be forgotten. I don't know if you saw this, but during the summer of 2019, Trump was making a very big deal about a rapper, ASAP Rocky, being in jail in Sweden, and how he would do his best to get him released. Justin Bieber responded with a tweet: ""I want my friend out.. I appreciate you trying to help him," Bieber wrote in a tweet. "But while your (sic) at it @realDonaldTrump can you also let those kids out of cages?"

I really thought maybe this would bring the situation to the forefront, maybe other singers, or actors, or our Democratic representatives, and even the Media would give it more attention, but nothing happened. The story just died. Big disappointment.

I don't what if anything, will be able to help these children, but if you hear of anything, please let me know.

Thanks, again!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
33. Crimes Against Humanity Must Be Attacked Ferociously, Triply So For The Children
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jan 2020

Thank you for sharing this poignant essay. I concur with every single word!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
35. It is Past Time for This: It Must Happen!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jan 2020

I was waiting over the Christmas holidays for Democrats to use the occasion to highlight this egregious human rights violations. As tots around the US were opening their gifts around the Christmas tree, these little prisoners were being traumatized!! This press conference needs to happen NOW!!!! As a retired Migrant Teacher, it breaks my heart to see my students and their siblings in cages without their parents!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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