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brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:19 PM Jan 2020

Cold War Between Biden and Mayor Pete Suddenly Burns Hot

The Daily Beast

For months, former Vice President Joe Biden and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg have avoided any major direct confrontation during the sporadic gloves-off skirmishes of the Democratic primary. Biden, the former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Buttigieg, a veteran of the Afghanistan war, have each sought to make cogent commander-in-chief cases on the campaign trail—hardly ever at each other’s expense.

But with just over a month until caucusing commences, the unpredictability of the political cycle has turned the notion of an inevitable winner upside down, with two of the leading contenders—a 77-year-old established politician and a 37-year-old Beltway neophyte—now on a collision course over one of their most powerful shared interests.

The two men have markedly different approaches to highlighting contrasts with their rivals. Biden, who has reliably topped national polls since launching his campaign in April, tends to employ a simple approach: Stay (mostly) out of the fray; attack (mostly) only when attacked; and try, with varying degrees of success, to stick to the script.

Buttigieg, whose final term as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, officially ends at noon on Wednesday, prefers the opposite. When Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) hesitated for weeks to release financial details of her health care proposal, for example, the mayor made sure to note that resistance during a televised debate in front of millions of viewers. When Warren hit back in a subsequent event for Buttigieg’s frequent appearance at high-dollar fundraisers, he reminded viewers she’s the “wealthy person”—not him.

Now, with the two moderate Democrats just three percentage points away from each other in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two early voting states that tee off the nominating contest in mere weeks, Buttigieg has gone on a rare offensive against Biden. The mayor has criticized the former senator’s Iraq War vote—a favorite line of attack from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who was opposed to the effort—and changed his tone on Biden’s son Hunter, who has been the subject of a coordinated misinformation campaign from President Donald Trump.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Cold War Between Biden and Mayor Pete Suddenly Burns Hot (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
It's primary season. RandySF Jan 2020 #1
It's irrelevant before the IA caucus Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #4
Buttigieg won't help his political future with this crap. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #2
Agree!! Negative never does Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #5
My wild guess ritapria Jan 2020 #3
More likely Klobuchar judeling Jan 2020 #9
I am really getting too old for this shit! SCVDem Jan 2020 #6
Keep your eyes on the prize, please, gentlemen. rickyhall Jan 2020 #7
I don't think there will be much fighting between them Hav Jan 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 2020 #10
Normal everyday Dem's do not want to hear about this Iraq war vote for goodness sake! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #11
 

RandySF

(59,420 posts)
1. It's primary season.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

And kid’s play compared to the 2008 primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. It's irrelevant before the IA caucus
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jan 2020

Still willing to show my disdain for the 3 year election cycle. No one wins, except the political establishment (they make buku off this early nonsense).

JFK announced his candidacy on January 2, 1960 (60 yrs ago tomorrow), *less than a year before the actual election*.

If $$ in politics concerns you, this is Exhibit A.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
2. Buttigieg won't help his political future with this crap.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,809 posts)
5. Agree!! Negative never does
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
3. My wild guess
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jan 2020

is that Joe Biden is gaining in Iowa at the expense of Mayor Pete, according his campaign's internal polling data …..It is just speculation …..There has not been a published Iowa Poll for quite a spell …..

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
9. More likely Klobuchar
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jan 2020

At this point. I expect the next set of polls will not show an Iowa lead for ex-Mayor Pete.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. I am really getting too old for this shit!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020

Dems attacking Dems just to fuck their opponents.

Just stop! Unite and win.

I will not survive this country at tRump 2.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
7. Keep your eyes on the prize, please, gentlemen.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
8. I don't think there will be much fighting between them
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jan 2020

unless they are the last two standing which I think is unlikely.
Biden isn't the one dishing it out, only returning the favor, often mild, when someone attacked him. Pete, too, wasn't someone I saw as going after the others in such a way and we'll see how the base reacts to his recent comments. I don't think going beyond current policies when attacking another candidate has helped any of the candidates who tried that so far.
It's exaggerated to call the current climate between the two as "burning hot", though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
11. Normal everyday Dem's do not want to hear about this Iraq war vote for goodness sake! nt
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:46 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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