Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden holds wide lead among black voters in Democratic presidential race, Post-Ipsos poll finds
Washington PostSen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) occupies second place in the Democratic field among African American voters, easily outdistancing the remaining candidates in the race. Sanders is leading among black voters under age 35, replicating his success with younger white voters in other national polls. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) runs third.
The survey finds meager support for former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is among the leaders in polls in the predominantly white states of Iowa and New Hampshire but stands at 2 percent among Democratic black voters nationally. A lack of familiarity with him and concerns about his experience and sexual orientation appear to be contributing to his current standing. Buttigieg has said that as African Americans get to know him, he will gain more support, but the poll undercuts that assertion. He receives only 3 percent support among black voters who are familiar with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)Just like electoral college...dumb.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,470 posts)Iowa still utilizes the discriminatory caucus system which discriminated against those with mobility problems, or cannot attend in person
It also makes it difficult for a secret ballot, and allows other in the Caucus to pressure someone how to vote
It makes a joke of democracy
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)way it is so I will vote that way...
We put so many obstacles in our way of removing a fascist killer that it makes me wonder if ...if anything will work anymore.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,470 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hard to believe that we are still doing things the same old way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)...is most in line with national Demographics and start with those states first. Anyone who recognizes how important people of color are to the Democratic Party would not want to start the primary process off every single time with two pretty darn White states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,470 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,699 posts)Link to tweet
Part of the explanation for their preference for Biden may be that African Americans overwhelmingly prioritize winning (57 percent) over agreement on issues (33 percent). In addition, by a 61 percent-to-21 percent margin, African American voters favor continuing President Barack Obamas policies over policies that are more progressive than his. Whether this is based on loyalty to Obama, an assessment of what the voters as a whole will accept or their own moderate ideology (or some of each) is debatable. (When Warren talks about big and fundamental change, she probably is not endearing herself to these voters.)
There has been a long-standing debate in the Democratic Party about the continued status of two overwhelmingly white states in the first and second positions in the primary schedule. When one candidate dominates among African Americans to the extent Biden does, Iowa may prove predictive of nothing at all. If Biden eventually wins the nomination, it might be the perfect time to rethink the entire primary process, by rotating states, giving primacy to states that are the most diverse or moving to a regional primary system with a series of Super Tuesdays.
Finally, the media should take stock of their coverage to date. The overwhelmingly white national press corps has consistently devalued Bidens strong base of support and harped on things that are entirely irrelevant to supporters or even endear him to them (e.g., gaffes, his hokey language). Mainstream outlets that pay more attention to Twitter than to African American voters, especially older African American voters who are not active on social media, may have underestimated Bidens chances and overestimated the chances of candidates who, like them, are active on social media. This should be a reminder for the chattering class that their assessments of candidates do not necessarily correspond to reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....we'll get down to business and choose our nominee with an electorate that truly represents all Americans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,820 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Overall
Hillary was weaker with AA voters than Obama, - no suprises there. Biden is weaker still. Sanders is leading Biden 42-30% amongst black millennials.
Yes HRC v Sanders was a two person race, but this one is effectively a three person contest. Buttigieg is not in the game.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,699 posts)Link to tweet
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) occupies second place in the Democratic field among African American voters, easily outdistancing the remaining candidates in the race. Sanders is leading among black voters under age 35, replicating his success with younger white voters in other national polls. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) runs third.
The survey finds meager support for former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is among the leaders in polls in the predominantly white states of Iowa and New Hampshire but stands at 2 percent among Democratic black voters nationally. A lack of familiarity with him and concerns about his experience and sexual orientation appear to be contributing to his current standing. Buttigieg has said that as African Americans get to know him, he will gain more support, but the poll undercuts that assertion. He receives only 3 percent support among black voters who are familiar with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,699 posts)Link to tweet
Biden snagged 48 percent of those surveyed when asked which candidate they would vote for or caucus for in their state. The next-closest was Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), with 20 percent. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) came in third with 9 percent.
Biden had the highest net approval rating among registered Democrats (69 percent) and overall (78 percent). Sanders followed with 63 percent and 71 percent, respectively. And Warren came in third with 51 percent and 58 percent, respectively.
Biden led on best chance to defeat Trump (53 percent), handles issues important to blacks (32 percent), would unite the country (43 percent), strong character (33 percent) and closest on issues (35 percent). Sanders is second to Biden on all these questions. But Warren comes in third on just would unite country (6 percent), strongest character (10 percent) and closest on issues (9 percent). Interestingly, former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg did better with black voters on best chance to defeat Trump (6 percent) than Warren (5 percent). And Booker did better on handle issues important to blacks (14 percent) than Warren (7 percent) ..
What this new Post-Ipsos poll of African Americans voters has done is confirm that my Aunt Gloria has her finger on the pulse of black America. At the family barbecue, I asked her why she thought Biden was the person to take on Trump. Her answer left me slack-jawed and remains the best explanation for Bidens continued strength. The way the system is set up now, there is so much racism that its going to have to be an old white person to go after an old white person, Aunt Gloria said. Old-school against old-school.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,699 posts)Link to tweet
He has more history with our communities than anyone else in this race.
And Joe is more comfortable in our communities than anyone else in this race.
To say that Joe has betrayed black voters is not only dangerous, it is flat-out wrong. We already know his character, his heart and his record; you cant try to make us believe something that runs counter to our own experiences with Joe Biden.
Not only has Joe spent his entire career fighting for civil rights, voting rights, equal justice and equal opportunity, it is what brought him into public service in the first place. In fact, Joe led the charge as a United States senator to extend and strengthen the Voting Rights Act in 1982.
He has fought for more resources to prosecute hate crimes, including resources for the Justice Department and FBI to reopen painful, unsolved murders from the civil rights era.
And in one of the greatest achievements of his career, Joe forged a path for the protection of women and girls including women of color by writing and spearheading the Violence Against Women Act.
Heres what I dont understand: If Joe Biden wasnt a champion for black America, why did Barack Obama, our nations first African American president, choose Joe to be his vice president?
In my lifetime Joes steadfast support as Obamas No. 2 was unprecedented; it was one of the first occasions when people who look like me were able to see a white man standing proudly and loyally behind a black man. And I can tell you this: South Carolina voters will never forget that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden