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Former CNN anchor, Soledad O'Brien, compares Bernie's lack of accountability to that of current Pres (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 OP
yup... handmade34 Jan 2020 #1
Sort of like saying: George II Jan 2020 #2
And what benefit is there to make a post disparaging your fellow Democratic candidates? walkingman Jan 2020 #3
Are you serious...have you seen the Sander supporter's posts about Biden? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #8
No...because any post against certain candidates is taken down on this site. mudstump Jan 2020 #15
Read TOS is all I have to say to you. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #27
I don't agree with that either. I guess I am a wimp because I would rather pick a candidate based walkingman Jan 2020 #17
I will not discuss the 16 primary so I can't really answer this post. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #28
yet another coordinated anti Bernie post azureblue Jan 2020 #40
BUT Soledad O'Brien is correct. Sanders has not only never Hortensis Jan 2020 #47
The current president is a traitor, thief, criminal and a psychopath Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #4
Agreed. Iliyah Jan 2020 #5
He leaves himself open to such criticism when Warren is attacked by his campaign. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #7
So when did he money launder for Russians?? Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author getagrip_already Jan 2020 #30
Um...are we supposed to accept bad behavior in a candidate and I am not saying that is what is going Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #31
No, no Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #58
+! Paka Jan 2020 #42
Yep. It's actually pathetic. Desperation is in the air. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #11
Yep! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #49
Soledad O'Brien is very perceptive. Bernie always claims he's a 'little too busy' comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #6
The American media was also "a little too busy" in 2016 FakeNoose Jan 2020 #29
Soledad , you are being silly and hyperbolic in the extreme ritapria Jan 2020 #9
"What was stated in the paper was true"??? Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #21
Bernie squirecam Jan 2020 #43
If he would just stop berating the same points over and over and over and elaborate or grow or.... chowder66 Jan 2020 #10
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #12
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #18
Ha, nice that you had to include Hillary and not one Hav Jan 2020 #20
BS just has his very special surrogates do it.. like stein pushers Cha Jan 2020 #14
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #33
Have you forgotten? Paka Jan 2020 #45
*Facepalm* Zeus69 Jan 2020 #55
Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #36
Exactly squirecam Jan 2020 #44
They are bird hairs of a feather. Time2Breathe70 Jan 2020 #16
Look, it's the media ... everything's about the issues (I swear!) ... I was a little bit busy ... betsuni Jan 2020 #19
So, did Sanders tell his staff to rescind the memo? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #22
It's threads like this that will guarantee a Trump victory Rollerman Jan 2020 #23
Talk to BS' surrogates about "divide". Cha Jan 2020 #57
They're getting back together :) Kurt V. Jan 2020 #24
Don't believe his bullshoit he's a micromanager, they need to have control of the minutiae Historic NY Jan 2020 #25
+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #34
Infighting will lose us the next election. warmfeet Jan 2020 #26
+1 Rollerman Jan 2020 #37
You people are beyond belief. Your "purity" tests and indignation over bullshit will ensure 4 more. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #32
+1 Rollerman Jan 2020 #38
+2 Maggiemayhem Jan 2020 #41
Spot on! Soledad OBrien included. The mean KPN Jan 2020 #48
Agreed. They (DNC) pit against each other and already know who they want. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #59
I haven't recognized America or wanted to be here since 11/8/16. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #51
I understand. Wish we had other options, and of course ultimately, we do. Not easy though. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #60
So he can't set an ethical path for 500 people, but he wants to lead a government that Blue_true Jan 2020 #35
How is that a lack of accountability? johnnyplankton Jan 2020 #39
She ain't wrong greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #46
Nothing like him NOT getting to the bottom of it. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #50
LOL. just guy stuff ‏ @bobby Replying to @soledadobrien progressoid Jan 2020 #52
Not accountable for his own campaign, but thinks he can be president? kcr Jan 2020 #53
Weaseling is how I'd describe it nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #54
In the words of a real Democrat: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #56
Come on, they all do this democrattotheend Jan 2020 #61
K Cha Jan 2020 #62
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Sort of like saying:
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020
“Uh, yes,” Sanders responded. “I was a little bit busy running around the country, trying to make the case.”
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walkingman

(7,675 posts)
3. And what benefit is there to make a post disparaging your fellow Democratic candidates?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
8. Are you serious...have you seen the Sander supporter's posts about Biden?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jan 2020

And this is not an attack...just what was said on CNN.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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mudstump

(342 posts)
15. No...because any post against certain candidates is taken down on this site.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
27. Read TOS is all I have to say to you.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

walkingman

(7,675 posts)
17. I don't agree with that either. I guess I am a wimp because I would rather pick a candidate based
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jan 2020

upon their platform versus going after each other. Personally I think any of the Dem candidates would make a good POTUS and far far better than the monster we now have. I just hope we don't have another 2016 where if someone's candidate isn't successful they do not vote like what happened last time. That is what happened especially by some Bernie voters although I do think the DNC was wrong in the way he was treated. Result - TRUMP WINS. I am not sure I can handle another 4 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
28. I will not discuss the 16 primary so I can't really answer this post.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020

All I can say is no one wants a repeat of 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

azureblue

(2,154 posts)
40. yet another coordinated anti Bernie post
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

Notice how there is a steady stream of them and sometimes two at the same time? What I am suspicious of is the incessant attacks on Bernie, and almost all of them are based upon half truths or out right lies. Time for the Mods here to do a bit of checking for who is posting this stuff.
From here, though, because there are so many anti Bernie troll posts at DU I am going to discount them all as lies and not even read them. Except to call them out..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. BUT Soledad O'Brien is correct. Sanders has not only never
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jan 2020

been given appropriate scrutiny, but most of the MSM has hidden significant information about him. For the same reasons they did for Trump -- to put Republicans in power. We know this is true. The Mueller Report confirms that Russia was involved for the same purpose.

Shouldn't that mean that trying to inform people about Sanders is the principled thing to do? Look, sure there are a lot of people angry with Sanders, but truthful information about a candidate should not be mistaken for unresolved anger toward that candidate and rejected.

Two completely different things, and we all have a duty to examine all these people. No one should get a pass from scrutiny, and especially not one both our own RW and Russia have been promoting to defeat Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Farmer-Rick

(10,219 posts)
4. The current president is a traitor, thief, criminal and a psychopath
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020

In no way does Bernie come close to the level of corruption that the orange blob does.

That is a false equivlancy and minimizes Traitor Trump's crimes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
7. He leaves himself open to such criticism when Warren is attacked by his campaign.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020

she holds Sander responsible based on her reply. His words on this post...seems like he want his cake and to eat it too...plausible deniability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Farmer-Rick

(10,219 posts)
13. So when did he money launder for Russians??
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:05 PM
Jan 2020

When did Bernie say he could grab them by the pusssy????

When did he hoodwink a veteran's charity and a school?

By doing this false comparison it minimize all the crimes of Traitor Trump.

This is hyperbole and a false equivalancy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #13)

 

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
31. Um...are we supposed to accept bad behavior in a candidate and I am not saying that is what is going
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jan 2020

on (not sure) because Trump is worse...vote for our nominee...cause Trump is worse...just doesn't sound right to me. Although any of our nominees have my vote. Sanders should not go after Warren...he did sign an agreement that he would not do so right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Farmer-Rick

(10,219 posts)
58. No, no
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jan 2020

Don't ever accept bad behavior from any candidate. I'm just saying make an apt comparison.

None of our Democratic candidates are as bad as Traitor Trump. None of them rise to his level of evil, incompetence and corruption.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,348 posts)
11. Yep. It's actually pathetic. Desperation is in the air.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
49. Yep!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:55 PM
Jan 2020

This attacking-Warren crap indeed makes Bernie look pathetically desperate!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,179 posts)
6. Soledad O'Brien is very perceptive. Bernie always claims he's a 'little too busy'
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:38 PM
Jan 2020

to see what's happening all around him in his own campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
29. The American media was also "a little too busy" in 2016
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020

... when Chump went around spouting his happy horseshit and getting a free ride during his first campaign. There was no blowback then, and probably none (or relatively little) now. And yet Democratic and independent candidates get taken to the cleaners on every frickin' thing they say.

I'm not sticking up for Bernie, I'm just saying the media needs to really examines both sides if they're going to claim "both-siderism" whenever it benefits Chump.


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Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
9. Soledad , you are being silly and hyperbolic in the extreme
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

What a scandal …. A staffer in Iowa issued a paper saying Elizabeth is the candidate of the elite ...No evidence that Bernie was aware of the paper …..What was stated in the paper was true ….The Bernie campaign in Iowa is going to knock on 500,000 doors in January .. Most of door knockers are bright, friendly kids who want to create a Better America for us all …. Soledad's analogy to Trump is quite frankly bizarre ... Soledad , my dear , Bernie was fighting for you - long before you were born ...He was arrested for you - long before you were born ..Bernie is the anti-Trump ….He has been in the trenches for 50 years ; fighting for Civil Rights , Worker Rights and Gay rights- long before it was cool ….. No other candidate can match his record of Public Service ..It's not even close

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Docreed2003

(16,887 posts)
21. "What was stated in the paper was true"???
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jan 2020

Are you saying that you agree or think it's ok that this "paper" bashed Warren as being a candidate "of the elites"?? What was stated in the paper was trash, and it should have no business in this primary.

Soledad is spot on here, Bernie should/could have at least said the content of the paper was off base, but he couldn't even do that. He blamed the media for making this a story. That, frankly, is a very Trumpian tactic.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
43. Bernie
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jan 2020

Stood by and let Sarandon attack Warren months ago.

It’s always the same feigned ignorance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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chowder66

(9,089 posts)
10. If he would just stop berating the same points over and over and over and elaborate or grow or....
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jan 2020

something! Anything!! He doesn't budge. If he does... it's unnoticeable. I admit, I've tuned him out (a long time ago now) and I voted for him in the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
20. Ha, nice that you had to include Hillary and not one
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:26 PM
Jan 2020

of the current candidates. Nice one. That speaks for itself.

And by the way, arguing about the enforcement of rules is also in the ToS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,872 posts)
14. BS just has his very special surrogates do it.. like stein pushers
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

ssarandon.. he's not fooling anybody with his innocent act.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287245488

He is not someone who used to be a Republican,” says Susan Sarandon while introducing Bernie Sanders at an ice cream social in Iowa, talking about how he’s fought for the same issues for years.

She doesn’t name names, but Elizabeth Warren was formerly a registered Republican.




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Paka

(2,760 posts)
45. Have you forgotten?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:32 PM
Jan 2020

They also repeatedly called Obama a Socialist and a Communist. They are going to call anyone and everyone on the left a Socialist. What difference does it make? The best way to cancel it out is to do exactly what Senator Sanders does, call yourself a Socialist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zeus69

(391 posts)
55. *Facepalm*
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jan 2020

Winning formula right there...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
36. Yep.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020

He delegates the dirty work. Thanks Cha!


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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
44. Exactly
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie has a history of this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Time2Breathe70

(15 posts)
16. They are bird hairs of a feather.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,715 posts)
19. Look, it's the media ... everything's about the issues (I swear!) ... I was a little bit busy ...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:21 PM
Jan 2020

I have no control over anybody working for me ... some people say ... her campaign probably did it too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,690 posts)
22. So, did Sanders tell his staff to rescind the memo?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jan 2020

I accept his explanation above, but setting his staff straight would be the right thing to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Rollerman

(42 posts)
23. It's threads like this that will guarantee a Trump victory
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jan 2020

How fast the lessons of 2016 are forgotten by those who set out to divide.

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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,872 posts)
57. Talk to BS' surrogates about "divide".
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:01 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
24. They're getting back together :)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Historic NY

(37,457 posts)
25. Don't believe his bullshoit he's a micromanager, they need to have control of the minutiae
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

“Bernie’s been at the helm of this campaign from the beginning,” said Weaver, “and the overall message of this campaign and the direction of the campaign and the strategy, has been driven by Bernie.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
26. Infighting will lose us the next election.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

Losing the next election seems to be the antithesis of what this website is about.

I am mystified why anyone here would want such a thing.

I, personally, am fine with any Democratic candidate winning the next presidential election (every other election as well).

I could be wrong. If I am, please tell me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(16,788 posts)
32. You people are beyond belief. Your "purity" tests and indignation over bullshit will ensure 4 more.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jan 2020

It's a fucking campaign. Make your choice and support the ultimate nominee. Or get ready for a USA you don't recognize or want to be in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

KPN

(15,668 posts)
48. Spot on! Soledad OBrien included. The mean
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jan 2020

spiritedness is astounding. Talk about comparisons — classic projection. At 69 and a lifelong Dem, I’m finally beginning to understand how it is that some former Dems abandoned the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Evolve Dammit

(16,788 posts)
59. Agreed. They (DNC) pit against each other and already know who they want.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,760 posts)
51. I haven't recognized America or wanted to be here since 11/8/16.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(16,788 posts)
60. I understand. Wish we had other options, and of course ultimately, we do. Not easy though.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. So he can't set an ethical path for 500 people, but he wants to lead a government that
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020

has several million under his control?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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johnnyplankton

(353 posts)
39. How is that a lack of accountability?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jan 2020

And comparing Bernie to Trump? That's just irresponsible. Where's her "accountability" as journalist?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
50. Nothing like him NOT getting to the bottom of it. nt
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(50,001 posts)
52. LOL. just guy stuff ‏ @bobby Replying to @soledadobrien
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

kcr

(15,320 posts)
53. Not accountable for his own campaign, but thinks he can be president?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020

Laughable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
54. Weaseling is how I'd describe it nt
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
56. In the words of a real Democrat:
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
61. Come on, they all do this
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jan 2020

Not ok but candidates often take the high road personally while letting the people below them do the dirty work. Obama was a master of this in 2008 - and I say this as someone who supported him in the 2008 primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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