Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI think I might like Tom Steyer. Is there something wrong with me?
Most of the time Steyer talks, he makes a lot of sense. I kind of prefer him over some of the other candidates. Am I crazy?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,922 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bdamomma
(63,940 posts)That's why we are in this mess now. I know there's a big difference between him and tRump, but I want someone with experience and to speak to all people of all diverse backgrounds.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
coti
(4,612 posts)an enormous crisis....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
coti
(4,612 posts)The 1932 election was considered to be a "realigning" election. FDR absolutely destroyed Hoover.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,922 posts)My concern is less with Steyer's wealth than with the fact that he's never held any public office, not even as a city councilman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,794 posts)Barack Obama had < 1 Senate term. Federal experience, to be sure - but not a lot.
Mayor Pete is an executive of a medium sized US town. Not exactly screaming "next stop: White House!" Nevertheless, if elected, I'm confident he'd figure it out.
Steyer does not strike me as Trump-like; he would seek out qualified advisors to help advise him on how to be President. His advisors won't run screaming, I suspect.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Some won't like him simply because he is wealthy but he has spent a fortune on progressive causes, voter registration drives and going after Trump. I like him and starting to wonder if a billionaire might be able to give Trump a taste of his own medicine
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AJT
(5,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,608 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dhill926
(16,375 posts)just wish he would get rid of the term limits thing. Haven't seen that commercial in a while though...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,507 posts)and is getting better at getting a strong message out.
Oops - sorry, I meant to respond to the OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,275 posts)i always sort of felt that particular bs idea was aimed right at teddy kennedy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Wabbajack_
(1,300 posts)Career staffers controlling inexperienced members of Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Is a Non-Starter after living with the worse term limits in the Nation in Michigan. He needs to stop saying this or he will never gain our attention no matter what else he might say.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hestia
(3,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasBushwhacker
(20,228 posts)a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT! That's not going to happen!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)1910 Reserve. That should have you up an kicking in no time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,569 posts)Sadly, they're not lining up to mingle with the likes of me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,569 posts)I might be in play here if I were properly persuaded.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,273 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)Won my respect for what thats worth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MH1
(17,608 posts)I think they had mostly been sitting on their hands until then, right?
Anyway I agree, it was a much needed breath of fresh air.
(Note how Mayor Peter jumped right on and followed the same line.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beringia
(4,316 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(131,240 posts)and has nothing to do with caviar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I say sure, let's let another billionaire who has never held political office become President. What could possibly go wrong?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(42,001 posts)Hes so utterly anti 45 and pro climate that I like him having a little bit of the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I'm glad he's on our side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,925 posts)so maybe rethink being against self-made billionaires who are DEMOCRATS like FDR, one of the best presidents ever.
You don't get to be a self-made billionaire by being stupid like the orange, non-billionaire imposter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)[link:https://www.businessinsider.com/the-net-worth-of-the-american-presidents-from-washington-to-obama-2010-5|]
That would be about $70,350.00 in 2019.
[link:https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/|]
FDR would not be a billionaire today.
In addition, before becoming president, FDR was:
--A state senator
--Assistant secretary of the navy
--Governor of New York.
He was not a billionaire. Also, unlike Steyer or Trump, he held a high political office before becoming President of the United States.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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brush This message was self-deleted by its author.
brush
(53,925 posts)would be roughly equivalent to a billionaire v an average joe today.
The point is he was a rich guy who was a Democrat who related to the concerns of the 99%. .
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
secondwind
(16,903 posts)We have had wealthy Presidents before........... FDR comes to mind. I wouldn't consider Steyer's wealth a detriment at all. He appears to have his head on straight, and if he were elected, would probably make a decent POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=424215|
FDRs wealth in 2010 dollars would have been about $60 million dollars. Plus, FDR had high-level political experience as Governor of New York before becoming President of the United States. Trump had held no high political office before becoming President, and Steyer would be in the same position if he had become President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,243 posts)But he'll have to learn in the job. Do we want another president who doesn't know squat about how government works? And will he bring the down ticket candidates with him? That's vital. I'm sure a place can be found in a new Administration where he can do immense good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)And Ive not given him much thought, really.
Im still totally persuadable by someone.
Decisions, decisions!
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herding cats
(19,569 posts)But, I still don't think he's the best we have to offer. Which doesn't mean I dislike him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)I just don't think he's prepared to be President.
It's ok to be filthy rich.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And citizens shouldn't fool themselves that they are even half-assed responsible and informed unless they've read everything they can about those candidates they're considering voting for. Skip the speeches and debates, open the searches, reach the articles, order the used books.
Then come maybe back and answer your own question and report. May just turn out that simple and emphatically delivered answers sounded more impressive than the people do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cilla4progress
(24,789 posts)he comes in, turns to the camera, and explains to us what the politicians just said!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ohiogal
(32,122 posts)They are all LIGHT YEARS ahead of Dump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onecaliberal
(32,940 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)People hate on him cuz hes a billionaire but his heart is in the right place
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mvd
(65,180 posts)I dont really agree with his health care plan, but he was one of the first to fight for impeachment and seems like a good billionaire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,134 posts)he has good ideas, but he knows how business works, not how government works.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nt
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
coti
(4,612 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)The more I see of Tom Steyer, the more I like about him😸
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(29,234 posts)but I'm not sure he can beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and identified his appeal. Every time he starts out by blaming the corporate stranglehold on our nation, including both political parties, for everything. Simple, folks. Resentment toward the elites!
Not a word about how on earth the Democratic Party COULD exist if this were true. Not a word about why the "corporate stranglers" and their servant Republican leaders are desperate to keep Democrats out of power. Not a word about how the Democrats smashed them the last time we had the power to do so.
You asked a question: that appeal to simple-minded resentment is absolutely to be denied. You're being lied to and your worst characteristics are being appealed to.
I'll tell you something else. Everyone here voted Democrat, of course, but by FAR most people who like Steyer and other populist types usually don't or never vote. I know that because their message depends on people being eager to believe and blame elite "they" and "thems" for all their problems.
Whereas everyone who votes has seen and knows the power of the vote, especially when they see it go to the Republicans who start destroying everything they believe in because not enough people voted to stop them. Democrats who vote know all about the many millions who don't bother to vote and about all those deluded, ignorant fools who vote spitefully for someone else because they bought the lies that Democrats are betraying them to the corporate stranglers. Just as Republicans do, Tweedledum and Tweedledee as Sanders once put it.
They never seem to notice that the corporate stranglers, Republicans, socialists, Russians and other foreign enemies are all desperate to defeat the Democrats who keep them from their goals. They're told not to by the Steyers, so of course they also never ask WHY.
And that's incredibly stupid and incredibly ignorant, and that makes them the #1 huge danger to themselves and everyone they care about and are responsible for.
So, go read about Steyer, learn about what an empty sack he is and keep looking. But look for people who talk first and last about what they want to achieve, never those who talk about, excitingly, about who you should resent and the need to destroy the target before anything can be built. And if they don't see Democrats leading all efforts, drop them like the rotten potatoes they are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bdamomma
(63,940 posts)someone with experience that is a must for me. Yeah he seems like a nice guy, but I don't want to have a beer with him!! I want someone with knowledge of politics and foreign policy. And to hit the ground running.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,431 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
riversedge
(70,362 posts)a very caring person. I do not care if he is a billionaire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,759 posts)Some candidates dont seem very committed to our party. They just like it better than the Republican Party, but maybe they are really independents at heart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,119 posts)important quality to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)demeanor is so odd.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)But I need to know more about him than what he states in his ads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,060 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raine
(30,541 posts)I also like Yang, I've gone back and forth on them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bayard
(22,184 posts)I think there should be a spot for him in Biden's administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,522 posts)Wouldnt be upset. I liked him talking about climate change top priority its mine too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
moriah
(8,311 posts)I'm happy to see anti-Trump messaging here even if it's unlikely by the time my state votes he'll even be a contender.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,794 posts)I initially supported Delaney because he was the first Dem to announce, and it was at a time when I needed to know someone would run.
Now I support Steyer, in no small part because he ran impeachment ads.
I saw Elizabeth Warren speak at the Iowa State Fair, and I was impressed. I've also been impressed with Yang and his understanding of what is going to happen to our economy because of AI and automation/robotics.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,794 posts)I agree, he makes a lot of sense.
JFK was wealthy, as was FDR, and TR (yes, I know - not a Dem - but he brought us the National Parks, so....). All three were dedicated to the proposition of the Government serving the people. I see that in Steyer - and to be honest, I see it in Bloomberg and (even though he is not a Billionaire) Yang. I don't see wealth as an automatic disqualifier.
I will be realistic, though: My choice of Steyer is predicated on the DU premise "If the election were held today...." By the time my state comes up, a lot of people will have dropped out. If you want to support Steyer - Great! But be real about having a second and possibly third choice in mind.
Right now, I'd go Steyer; if he drops out Yang; if he drops out Warren; and if she drops out Biden. I will vote for whomever the Democratic Party nominates without reservation or hesitation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MFM008
(19,826 posts)I just dont think hes going to go anywhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Just IMO not the right candidate for 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,918 posts)But I refuse to reinforce the role that money has in politics by rewarding someone who with one stroke of his own pen can raise more money for his campaign than Harris and Booker could in a whole year of campaigning appealing for donations. That is the main reason why I never seriously consider Steyer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden