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BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:49 PM Jan 2020

'It's so bad': How Warren and Klobuchar are navigating sexism

The two last viable female candidates have adopted markedly different strategies for dealing with the challenges of running as a woman.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/15/warren-klobuchar-navigating-sexism-2020-099465

... “We have to grapple with the fact that some people think a woman can’t win … I have heard about it from our own people [and] I’ve noticed it,” Klobuchar told POLITICO in an interview. The Minnesota Democrat called it “a real barrier” that’s only grown more obvious as the primary has ground on. It has prompted her to speak more openly about sexism, she said, “especially because I’ve seen my very qualified sisters have to leave the race — that was really, for me, a turning point.”

But Klobuchar and Warren have addressed sexism is markedly different ways. In debates and on the campaign trail, Klobuchar for months has addressed it head on. Warren, by contrast, has mostly been mute on the subject — until Tuesday night’s debate.

Both strategies contain risks and highlight the headwinds all female candidates face. Claiming sexism or addressing it publicly can obscure a candidate’s broader message and quickly earn accusations of playing the so-called “gender card,” according to aides and allies to both candidates and officials from past presidential campaigns of women candidates. But ignoring it or brushing it off can let damaging gendered narratives take root and spread, they said.
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Warren, who’s filtered her campaign message largely through a class-based lens, has declined to call out sexism when pressed by reporters, though her campaign and its surrogates have addressed it more directly. When prodded by a reporter last fall over Biden casting her as “angry” and “condescending,” and whether he would have made those comments about man, Warren shot back: “Why don’t you ask him that?” And unlike many of the men in the race, Warren has been more reluctant to go negative against opponents .
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At Kirsten Gillibrand’s first news conference as a presidential candidate, she was asked about her likability. During a Fox News town hall, she was chastised for being impolite. And last spring, Harris, who faced the challenge of running as a black woman, had to defuse rumors that she’d become Biden’s running mate. A whisper campaign about the No. 2 role circled around Harris even though she was running for the top job herself, shaping perceptions of her candidacy.
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Much more at the link. It's an interesting article. I am STILL ONE HUNDRED PERCENT behind Elizabeth!
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'It's so bad': How Warren and Klobuchar are navigating sexism (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 OP
ya know, if it had been me, hearing that from bernie would have broken my heart. mopinko Jan 2020 #1
I keep coming back to this Jason Johnson quote BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #2
yup. what a moment bernie could make this. mopinko Jan 2020 #3
The Title Incident judeling Jan 2020 #4
... BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #6
If a Woman Acted Like Bernie... TomCADem Jan 2020 #5
Absolutely this! BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #7
They'll deal with it. Right now Sanders has begun "hillaryizing" Hortensis Jan 2020 #8
 

mopinko

(70,272 posts)
1. ya know, if it had been me, hearing that from bernie would have broken my heart.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:55 PM
Jan 2020

i am sure she didnt mis-hear anything. she has heard it a million times. of course she knows it when she hears it.

i have no doubt that if he had said, instead- how are we going to prevent sexism from robbing this country again- or anything remotely like that, that is exactly what she would have heard.

damn it bernie, lead.

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BeyondGeography

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2. I keep coming back to this Jason Johnson quote
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jan 2020
What I saw on Elizabeth Warren’s face,” said the political scientist Jason Johnson later, “is the face of... every single person who has heard someone say something racist, offensive or sexist — you know you heard it and then you see them deny it in public.”

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-01-15/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-women-presidents-iowa-democratic-debate
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mopinko

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3. yup. what a moment bernie could make this.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020

if he was a leader.

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judeling

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4. The Title Incident
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jan 2020
The candidates have seen the dynamic at play on the ground. Canvassers for a rival presidential campaign approached Klobuchar in a hotel lobby here on a recent evening to talk about sexism — and how voters are wary that a woman can’t beat Donald Trump.
“They just couldn’t stop talking about it. They felt sorry for me and [Elizabeth Warren],” Klobuchar said, dropping her voice down into a whisper. “They were like, ‘It’s so bad.’”


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BlueMTexpat

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6. ...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:27 AM
Jan 2020

and it continues ...!

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TomCADem

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5. If a Woman Acted Like Bernie...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jan 2020

...and yelled and pounded the podium, ignored questions, and looked like he was going to have an aneurism whenever he was mildly criticized, I am sure a lot of sexist remarks direct toward him. Instead, Bernie gets a free pass.

Bernie has a heart attack, and his campaign brags about how it has made him more focused. Hillary has a minor fainting spell, and it becomes a two week scandal.

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Hortensis

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8. They'll deal with it. Right now Sanders has begun "hillaryizing"
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jan 2020

Warren, according to a former Vermont governor who's been observing Sanders' tactics for decades.

If so, I'm guessing it's either a delusional tactic to enlarge his following or a desperate one to hold onto them. He already has half the support of 2016 and a big reason has to be the kind of person his behaviors reveal him to be, also the kind of people new supporters would be hanging with.

Even before this "hillaryizing" explanation, I've been looking for those to once again copy the chants at Trump rallies again as the primaries firm up our leader. He's unquestionably desperate to get the 15% in each state necessary to be allocated delegates, and they'll be chanting outside if he doesn't succeed.

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