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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,320 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:49 PM Jan 2020

Election Update: Two New Polls Show Biden's Upside Scenario

With a mix of relatively strong and relatively weak polls for each of the major candidates, the top line of our 2020 Democratic primary forecast has been roughly unchanged over the past several days.

In a race without a clear favorite, former Vice President Joe Biden remains the front-runner, with a 39 percent chance of winning a majority of pledged delegates. He’s followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders with a 23 percent chance, Sen. Elizabeth Warren with a 13 percent chance and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg with a 10 percent chance. The chance that no one will win a majority of pledged delegates is 14 percent. All of those figures are within 1 percentage point of when I last wrote about the forecast on Saturday.



The twist, though, is that this time Biden’s strongest new polls — at least, in terms of how much they helped or hurt him in the model — were in Iowa and New Hampshire, whereas he got middling numbers in new polls of Nevada and California (along with a not-particularly-great set of national numbers).

In a Monmouth University poll of Iowa released on Monday, Biden led the pack with 24 percent of the vote, followed by 18 percent for Sanders, 17 percent for Buttigieg and 15 percent for Warren. Meanwhile, an RKM Research and Communications poll of New Hampshire, conducted for Franklin Pierce University and the Boston Herald, had Biden ahead with 26 percent of the vote there, leading Sanders at 22, Warren at 18 and Buttigieg at 7.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-two-new-polls-show-bidens-upside-scenario/

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Election Update: Two New Polls Show Biden's Upside Scenario (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 OP
Just saw this ..thx for posting here Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #1
"No One" has a 14+% chance? Hoyt Jan 2020 #2
According to 538, Biden's odds are contingent on winning IA Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #3
That is is you think Iowa has an effect on Biden...I don't. He will do better in more diverse states Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #4
This is Nate's prediction, not mine Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #6
He's demonstrated consistent bias against Biden in headlines Hortensis Jan 2020 #8
I think if Warren wins..she gets momentum...and maybe Biden does too...not sure. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #10
Everything changes with Iowa judeling Jan 2020 #5
Race-track news coverage changes, certainly. But a lot of Hortensis Jan 2020 #7
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #9
I love Nate's analysis Gothmog Jan 2020 #11
 

Thekaspervote

(32,811 posts)
1. Just saw this ..thx for posting here
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. "No One" has a 14+% chance?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,687 posts)
3. According to 538, Biden's odds are contingent on winning IA
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jan 2020

If he loses IA, his odds of getting a majority of delegates drops to 20%, or 1 in 5.

Go to the 1 minute mark for relevant comments:


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Demsrule86

(68,733 posts)
4. That is is you think Iowa has an effect on Biden...I don't. He will do better in more diverse states
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020

and when I look at the AA voters, I don't see Sander having enough support to win a nomination. He has less support then last time. I do think it matters to both Warren and Sanders...Buttigieg has nowhere to go even if wins both...his AA is even less than Sanders is...

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Fiendish Thingy

(15,687 posts)
6. This is Nate's prediction, not mine
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jan 2020

Although I do think whoever wins IA will get lots of free media and momentum.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. He's demonstrated consistent bias against Biden in headlines
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

and text, forever trying to claim he's sinking. Sometimes to the point of being absolutely ridiculous, like the various times over the months when he's claimed the current data show the candidate always way out ahead has already lost the election.

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Demsrule86

(68,733 posts)
10. I think if Warren wins..she gets momentum...and maybe Biden does too...not sure.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

But I think they both go on no matter what...Biden doesn't need a win and neither does Warren. Iowa isn't Iowa this year with the other primaries moved up.. And I think it won't be ever again. I wish they would run a state that has more diversity with Iowa...as I do think it is unfair to AA candidates.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
5. Everything changes with Iowa
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jan 2020

We may not like it but it does.

Nates simulation really depends on the vote as it goes along because that is what normally happens.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Race-track news coverage changes, certainly. But a lot of
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

people and interests are bypassing journalists. The order of states voting has changed and become a lot earlier, closer to IA. More people are voting early. More members of minority groups are voting (will they take their lead from IA?) Everything changes, and that's not limited to little Iowa. Retrospect should be particularly interesting this time.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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