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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Joe Biden has something to say about FB and Zuck. And, it isn't nice... 😳
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/17/opinion/joe-biden-nytimes-interview.html
Charlie Warzel: Sure. Mr. Vice President, in October, your campaign sent a letter to Facebook regarding an ad that falsely claimed that you blackmailed Ukrainian officials to not investigate your son. Im curious, did that experience, dealing with Facebook and their power, did that change the way that you see the power of tech platforms right now?
No, Ive never been a fan of Facebook, as you probably know. Ive never been a big Zuckerberg fan. I think hes a real problem. I think
CW: Can you elaborate?
No, I can. He knows better. And you know, from my perspective, Ive been in the view that not only should we be worrying about the concentration of power, we should be worried about the lack of privacy and them being exempt, which youre not exempt. [The Times] cant write something you know to be false and be exempt from being sued. But he can. The idea that its a tech company is that Section 230 should be revoked, immediately should be revoked, number one. For Zuckerberg and other platforms.Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says that online platforms arent held liable for things their users post on them, with some exceptions. In July, The Timess Sarah Jeong weighed in on proposed updates to Section 230, arguing that we should reopen the debate on C.D.A. 230 only because so much of the internet has changed, but the discourse will be improved if we all take a moment to actually read the text of C.D.A. 230.
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CW: If theres proven harm that Facebook has done, should someone like Mark Zuckerberg be submitted to criminal penalties, perhaps?
He should be submitted to civil liability and his company to civil liability, just like you would be here at The New York Times. Whether he engaged in something and amounted to collusion that in fact caused harm that would in fact be equal to a criminal offense, thats a different issue. Thats possible. Thats possible it could happen. Zuckerberg finally took down those ads that Russia was running. All those bots about me. Theyre no longer being run.In October, a 30-second ad appeared on Facebook accusing Mr. Biden of blackmailing Ukrainian government officials. The ad, made by an independent political action committee, said: Send Quid Pro Joe Biden into retirement. Mr. Bidens campaign wrote a letter calling on Facebook to take down the ad. He was getting paid a lot of money to put them up. I learned three things. Number one, Putin doesnt want me to be president. Number two, Kim Jong-un thinks I should be beaten to death like a rabid dog and three, this president of the United States is spending millions of dollars to try to keep me from being the nominee. I wonder why.
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Charlie Warzel: Sure. Mr. Vice President, in October, your campaign sent a letter to Facebook regarding an ad that falsely claimed that you blackmailed Ukrainian officials to not investigate your son. Im curious, did that experience, dealing with Facebook and their power, did that change the way that you see the power of tech platforms right now?
No, Ive never been a fan of Facebook, as you probably know. Ive never been a big Zuckerberg fan. I think hes a real problem. I think
CW: Can you elaborate?
No, I can. He knows better. And you know, from my perspective, Ive been in the view that not only should we be worrying about the concentration of power, we should be worried about the lack of privacy and them being exempt, which youre not exempt. [The Times] cant write something you know to be false and be exempt from being sued. But he can. The idea that its a tech company is that Section 230 should be revoked, immediately should be revoked, number one. For Zuckerberg and other platforms.Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says that online platforms arent held liable for things their users post on them, with some exceptions. In July, The Timess Sarah Jeong weighed in on proposed updates to Section 230, arguing that we should reopen the debate on C.D.A. 230 only because so much of the internet has changed, but the discourse will be improved if we all take a moment to actually read the text of C.D.A. 230.
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CW: If theres proven harm that Facebook has done, should someone like Mark Zuckerberg be submitted to criminal penalties, perhaps?
He should be submitted to civil liability and his company to civil liability, just like you would be here at The New York Times. Whether he engaged in something and amounted to collusion that in fact caused harm that would in fact be equal to a criminal offense, thats a different issue. Thats possible. Thats possible it could happen. Zuckerberg finally took down those ads that Russia was running. All those bots about me. Theyre no longer being run.In October, a 30-second ad appeared on Facebook accusing Mr. Biden of blackmailing Ukrainian government officials. The ad, made by an independent political action committee, said: Send Quid Pro Joe Biden into retirement. Mr. Bidens campaign wrote a letter calling on Facebook to take down the ad. He was getting paid a lot of money to put them up. I learned three things. Number one, Putin doesnt want me to be president. Number two, Kim Jong-un thinks I should be beaten to death like a rabid dog and three, this president of the United States is spending millions of dollars to try to keep me from being the nominee. I wonder why.
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Whoa! Good for Joe!
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Joe Biden has something to say about FB and Zuck. And, it isn't nice... 😳 (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
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Bayard
(22,184 posts)1. I totally agree
I finally dumped my Facebook account because of all the hijnks going on.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,559 posts)2. I appreciate the concern about concentration of power.
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided