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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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*NEW* Survey USA (A rated) National Poll - Biden 32%, Sanders 21%, Warren 14%, Buttigieg 9% (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 OP
KR! Cha Jan 2020 #1
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2020 #2
What do the averages say when you add that in? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3
KR! Cha Jan 2020 #4
But as of a couple of hours ago, I thought Bernie took the lead? George II Jan 2020 #5
So did Sander's supporter's Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #8
50 million donations!! Grass roots!! George II Jan 2020 #9
Do they know that giant bamboo is a type of grass? NCProgressive Jan 2020 #10
Polls galore evertonfc Jan 2020 #6
This is more realistic. liberalmuse Jan 2020 #7
Russian bots and republicans are pushing Sanders mightily NCProgressive Jan 2020 #11
I really believe this. liberalmuse Jan 2020 #15
The age crosstabs are wild. David__77 Jan 2020 #12
Survey USA was off by... amishcountry Jan 2020 #13
The main thing I find interesting is the crosstabs. David__77 Jan 2020 #14
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
3. What do the averages say when you add that in?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. But as of a couple of hours ago, I thought Bernie took the lead?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
8. So did Sander's supporter's
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020


But he raised x amount of money......


In 3 2 1
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. 50 million donations!! Grass roots!!
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
10. Do they know that giant bamboo is a type of grass?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:12 PM
Jan 2020

Giant bamboo reaches a diameter of nearly 2 feet and a height of 38 feet - but it is still grass!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
6. Polls galore
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020

This race is between Biden and Sanders. Let's face it. Unless Pete or Warren win IA and NH, it's a two person race. If Biden were to win IA and NH- the race is essentially over on March 3. IA and NH is a must for the anti Biden candidate

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
7. This is more realistic.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020

I don’t hate Bernie at all, but am concerned at how much hype and propaganda is being stirred up around his name online that does not mesh with reality, and it’s not all being done by his supporters. There are malicious actors involved as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
11. Russian bots and republicans are pushing Sanders mightily
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jan 2020

They either want Sanders to win or make his supporters feel that he is winning and it was maliciously snatched away from him by the "establishment" so they would stay home, vote third party or vote for Trump.

Sanders supporters have 0% awareness of how they are being manipulated

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
15. I really believe this.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jan 2020

I am very liberal and work around a lot of liberals (for once, thank dog). Not one of them are backing Sanders. He is simply not on most Democrats radar. Biden is.

Also, I was a Sanders supporter for a time years ago and even went to caucus for him. He won the caucus because there were a lot of diehard (and some very loud and rude) Sanders supporters there, but when we had our mail-in Primary, Hillary won by landslide. The voracious Sander's support I'm seeing online is not reflected in reality in any shape or form, and that really bothers me. We are being heavily influenced by outside forces who want to divide America so they can reap the spoils from an easily manipulated populace of heavy consumers.

Biden isn't my first choice, but it looks like he is our likely candidate at this point, though things can change. We know Putin and all the dictators who are able to play Trump absolutely do not want Biden in the White House. They know Sanders won't get the votes Biden will, especially from more moderate Democrats and Independents, which like it or not, are our bread and butter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,559 posts)
12. The age crosstabs are wild.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jan 2020

50+ and under 50 so so different!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

amishcountry

(22 posts)
13. Survey USA was off by...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020

11 points in their 2016 final california poll favoring the moderate candidate by 18 points. I would not bet the house on any Survery USA poll unless you wanna give your house away,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

David__77

(23,559 posts)
14. The main thing I find interesting is the crosstabs.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

The aggregate result may or may not be good- the variation among groups is interesting. For instance, I’m not surprised to see the poll detail show Sanders doing better than average among voters of households with LGBT people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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