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Uncle Joe

(58,480 posts) Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:08 PM Jan 2020

Biden charges Sanders camp 'doctored video' to attack him

The video in question — of Biden’s 2018 remarks to the Brookings Institution think tank — was not doctored by Sanders.

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“Let’s get the record straight,” Biden said at Simpson College here. “There’s a little, doctored video going around ... saying I agreed with Paul Ryan, the former vice presidential candidate, about wanting to privatize Social Security.”

But the video in question — of Biden’s 2018 remarks to the Brookings Institution think tank — was not doctored by Sanders, whose campaign this month stepped up criticisms of Biden’s record on Social Security.

Sanders’ campaign did say in a recent campaign email that “Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare” — which PolitiFact said Sanders’ campaign got wrong. But there is no evidence that the campaign doctored any video.

Biden, however, referenced the fact-checking website in making a muddled claim: “PolitiFact looked at it and they doctored the photo, they doctored the piece and it’s acknowledged that it’s a fake.”

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/18/joe-biden-falsely-attacks-bernie-sanders-100811

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Biden charges Sanders camp 'doctored video' to attack him (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jan 2020 OP

That's BS. Even PolitiFact has called what Sirota said was false: George II Jan 2020 #1

+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #5

Bernie didn't doctor any video which Biden claimed, that's the point of this OP Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #6

Bernie didn't, but his 3rd in charge did. Surely you've seen the video in question, didn't you? George II Jan 2020 #8

If you have actual evidence that Bernie's campaign doctored any video, present it. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #9

Here's the video as Sirota just tweeted AGAIN 15 minutes ago. Biden was on the floor of the Senate.. George II Jan 2020 #10

Sirota pulled a similar stunt in Philadelphia RandySF Jan 2020 #2

Here is what Politifact has to say about it: beastie boy Jan 2020 #3

Earlier thread: TwilightZone Jan 2020 #4

This OP takes issue with that thread regarding any "doctoring" of a video. n/t Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #7

Don't waste your breath Uncle Joe... the truth speaks for itself. Bernie has Joe's number!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #12

Good one Uncle Joe... thanks for posting!! LMFAO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #11

When you have hundreds of campaign workers doing their own thing oasis Jan 2020 #13

Are we arguing over a video from April 2018 at The Brookings Institute, House of Roberts Jan 2020 #14

George II

(67,782 posts)

1. That's BS. Even PolitiFact has called what Sirota said was false:

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:17 PM

Jan 2020

"In 2018, Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare."
— Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, January 7th, 2020 in newsletter from the Bernie Sanders campaign

"We rate this statement False."

When is this stuff going to stop, from the Sanders campaign, his surrogates, AND his followers? I guess they're having trouble getting traction on their own message so they have to distort their opponents' messages.

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TexasTowelie

(112,558 posts)

5. +1

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:25 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,480 posts)

6. Bernie didn't doctor any video which Biden claimed, that's the point of this OP

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:28 PM

Jan 2020

Politifact doesn't even address Bernie's campaign doctoring a video.

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George II

(67,782 posts)

8. Bernie didn't, but his 3rd in charge did. Surely you've seen the video in question, didn't you?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:30 PM

Jan 2020

Sirota retweeted it about 20 on Thursday and Friday, sometimes five minutes apart. The video is what Sirota based on newsletter on.

Come on, let's conduct a real campaign, not a smear campaign.

Edit: Sirota just tweeted it AGAIN 15 minutes ago. Please don't tell me you haven't seen this 19 second video before:

Link to tweet

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Uncle Joe

(58,480 posts)

9. If you have actual evidence that Bernie's campaign doctored any video, present it. n/t

Reply to George II (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:32 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

10. Here's the video as Sirota just tweeted AGAIN 15 minutes ago. Biden was on the floor of the Senate..

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:35 PM

Jan 2020

His video is only 19 seconds, Biden spoke for more than four minutes. Cutting out the beginning and the end, totaling four minutes, is DOCTORING! BTW, Briahna Gray and Faiz have also retweeted this over and over again. This is disgusting.

Link to tweet

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RandySF

(59,525 posts)

2. Sirota pulled a similar stunt in Philadelphia

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:17 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

beastie boy

(9,512 posts)

3. Here is what Politifact has to say about it:

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:19 PM

Jan 2020

The Sanders campaign omitted what Biden said next: the importance of protecting Social Security and Medicare and to change the tax code, which he said benefitted the mega rich. Overall, the point of Biden’s speech was to criticize tax cuts for the rich and call for more help to the middle class.

The Sanders campaign plucked out part of what Biden said but omitted the full context of his comments.

We rate this statement False.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

Plucking certain parts out and omitting other parts to the effect of putting Biden's comment on its head...

Will you accept "creative montage" instead of "doctoring"?

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TwilightZone

(25,505 posts)

4. Earlier thread:

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:24 PM

Jan 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287431326

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Uncle Joe

(58,480 posts)

7. This OP takes issue with that thread regarding any "doctoring" of a video. n/t

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:29 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)

12. Don't waste your breath Uncle Joe... the truth speaks for itself. Bernie has Joe's number!!

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:54 PM

Jan 2020

Bernie once again doing the work of the corporate media... Joe needs to put out a better statement and evolve quick.

TBH though, I think it's too late for Joe to repair the damage of his past votes and positions... say hello to President Sanders!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!