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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:46 AM Jan 2020

Biden, Sanders, Social Security and Smears

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/opinion/biden-sanders-social-security.html


So, about the element of truth in the criticism of Biden: Once upon a time, there was a peculiar consensus among media figures and would-be centrists that the long-run cost of entitlement programs was America’s biggest problem, that Social Security in particular was in crisis and that something had to be done, with the solution including benefit cuts.

This consensus wasn’t based on hard thinking; it was about the attitude politicians were expected to display. As I wrote way back in 2007, proclaiming a Social Security crisis requiring cuts was seen as a “badge of seriousness,” a way of showing how statesmanlike and tough-minded you were.

The candidate I was criticizing, by the way — the guy I said had been “played for a sucker” — was a politician named Barack Obama. But Biden was certainly pulled in by that conventional wisdom, too, so it’s not hard to find old quotes in which he suggested possible Social Security cuts in the name of fiscal responsibility.

But that was then. These days, Biden, like many Democrats, is calling for an expansion of Social Security benefits. That doesn’t make his previous statements irrelevant; he should acknowledge that he has changed his position, and his history on the issue is one reason progressives worry that, if elected, he might fritter away his political capital in vain attempts to reach bipartisan compromise. (His role in passing the draconian 2005 bankruptcy bill, which got Elizabeth Warren involved in politics, is another.)


It's a good read.
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Biden, Sanders, Social Security and Smears (Original Post) Autumn Jan 2020 OP
Bernie is leading on the issues. JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #1
He creates his own issues and then "leads" on them. George II Jan 2020 #4
Yes, definitely read the entire column, since most of it is a scathing critique of Sanders: highplainsdem Jan 2020 #2
Personally, I think if you take anyone who has The Mouth Jan 2020 #3
Thankfully, like most of our candidates, he hasn't engaged in smears. George II Jan 2020 #5
Unlike his supporters. Autumn Jan 2020 #6
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
1. Bernie is leading on the issues.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jan 2020

This is why we need him. Our election is not just about Trump.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. He creates his own issues and then "leads" on them.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
2. Yes, definitely read the entire column, since most of it is a scathing critique of Sanders:
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Mouth

(3,165 posts)
3. Personally, I think if you take anyone who has
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jan 2020

been in public office for 20-30 years, you're going to have some stuff that looks embarrassing later, taken out of context.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Thankfully, like most of our candidates, he hasn't engaged in smears.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
6. Unlike his supporters.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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