And I am of the belief that if we had not "moved forward" and a full investigation of 9/11 had been done, that trump would have never been president because we would most probably not have a republican party.

.. need to have their actions reviewed. Their grifting reviewed. Their use of government money to fund their activities. And finally a full accounting of the golfing cost. Those true figures are being hidden now.

And then release what is found to New York, Florida, and wherever he has done business.

He has repeatedly suggested that he’d get members of both parties working together again. It's easy to see a President Biden say that he wants to put this behind us and move on.

I am all for moving forward ON THE CORRECT ROAD.
If we are on the wrong road, we need to go back to where we took a wrong turn before we can truly move forward.

And I don't think it would be a bad idea if we all started practicing saying that (in our own words.)

profits over people. So we've been on that ''road" for decades. Time to get off.

I agree profits should be put way down the list of priorities from people, but the road allegory seems really clear. You can't move forward by going straight on the wrong path. Not releasing all available documents on the "drug deal" on display would indicate we were on the wrong path.

Failure to require accountability is also the wrong path. There are people who need to see the insides of prisons.

Hasn't that been the point with trump? The president shouldn't be ordering investigations of their political rivals. The president appoints an AG who decides that the facts warrant an investigation.

Joe should never order an investigation because he's been so involved peripherally in this impeachment investigation. It would look like something trump would do. Get the right AG and let them handle it.

Elizabeth, Joe, Amy, Pete, Mike, Bernie - They are all anti-corruption!! We've got some great candidates over here on our side.

And let us not forget that.

If I hear one of these candidates say that they won't look back, they'll only look forward they are OUT in my book.

We are here today, with Trump, because of this. We are here today, with outrageous income inequality because of this. We are here, today, with voter suppression, lifetime, corporatist, GOP judges and GOP fraud because of this.

If we don't start holding people accountable things will never change. Yes, his cult base will rebel. Yes, there will be violence. We can have the limited violence and unrest now with just his cult base, or we can wait for the next full revolution. That will be far more bloody when it arrives. Those are, the only two options I see.

We blew it with the pardon of Nixon and REALLY blew it by giving a pass to Bush/Cheney.
Had we do the proper investigations and disclosures, and actual charges where appropriate, we would NOT be in this mess where we are today.

That just lowers the bar of things the new administration is "pre-cleared" to do. ENOUGH already.

He could have disclosed all the war crimes committed by Bush & Cheney and make then stand before a tribunal. But he let all their crimes against humanity slide because it would upset the people too much and polarize the nation. Yeah that worked out real well America is more united than ever!

progress.

a woman can do just as great as a man at making change and progress!

a woman (Dr. Hill) not a man who was the first to come forward in this impeachment process to stand up for truth.

I'm currently writing an article speaking to this very issue of which candidates are most and least likely to pursue crimes committed by a previous administration. Am interested in compiling comments of others who have posed this question.

You mentioned posting this topic as a question the other day. I was wanting to know if this was as an OP or as commentary on another OP? Either way, what is the post called that I can go to to read more on this? Thanks much!

she is all about openness

Repugs and their donors will bring out the long knives against her more than ever now.

if she wins the nomination?

Go get 'em, Liz!

And someone did. :fistpump:

She's right, they all should.

time for the Ds to start campaigning on their releasing all documents on day one with the election of a D president.

scared wittle wabbits.

(Not undecided, just undisclosed.)

He or his henchmen will shred every last paper copy. The ultra-secret server will be wiped clean or destroyed.

(And do that legally while waiting for Warren, or whomever, to order the release?)

tells us that, yes, copies will be and already have been made and hidden away. The question of the "legality" of doing so is not a deterrent in any way to these guys, and the motivation for doing so does not have "patriotism" as its nexus.

You have to realize that there are millions upon millions of future dollars to be made in blackmail money and book deals off tRump and his minions, not to mention the money paid for document leaks. People in this admin know that if their future blackmail pursuits are unsuccessful, they still have the option to claim the mantle of "patriotic citizens" (and avoid indictments themselves) by turning over what they have.

Oh yeah, the eventual document (and audio and video) dumps are going to be epic.

Shes pledging to investigate a political rival. This is exactly what we said was horrible when Trump said it about Clinton.



Any investigation should be done by the DoJ and without the influence of the President.

What Warren is saying is basically, "No more blocking of document requests from Congress regarding the Ukraine Scandal or the Mueller Investigation".

legitimate impeachment process already underway? She's not asking for an investigation, that's already begun.

Polling clearly shows the American people WANT their right to see all the subpoenas and requests for documents honored.

If Trump has committed crimes (and who doesn't believe that he has), let justice play out.

But demagoguing the issue in a presidential campaign reinforces the image that we live in a Banana Republic and that's playing Trump's game.

We need to hold fast to liberal values and reject populist impulses.

She pledging to "release of every document related to this impeachment inquiry that the administration has been hiding."

She's not talking about starting a new investigation - just releasing the materials related to the current inquiry.

Yet, we will continue to hear from supporters of someone "whose name shall not be mentioned except in the most sycophantic terms" who will go on...and on..and on...and on with the false narrative that the release of executive branch subpoenaed documents is somehow the same as launching new investigations and, egads!, the next thing you know, we're a banana republic!

Factual distinction is usually the first thing thrown under the bus by those who pursue sycophantic agendas.

..minute gap. El crook now in WH and his motley gang of ghouls have had plenty of time to destroy, manipulate and falsify any and all information and he will deny any culpability. When it was discovered that 18minutes of Nixon tapes were missing--his reaction was...

Meetings of the House committees were held in closed sessions for a reason: to protect national security.

Promising that she'd release ALL documents is either a false overstatement, or (worse) a policy that could cause harm to the United State's national interests and those of our allies.

This is not the way responsible leadership behaves.

Any promise to release documents should have been a qualified promise.

security. In fact, Adam Schiff said just the other day that they were held as closed depositions so that the witnesses could not talk to each other and share facts. The depositions were ultimately released, with any national security concerns redacted.

I will investigate everyone involved in the crimes and the coverups.

Whether you think so or not.

On the day after the election, we need to ensure that all these documents are not destroyed. Can the Secret Service assist?

Because it would eliminate or at least greatly reduce the potency of the GOP talking point about how Democrats are hiding things, or that its Democrats that are withholding evidence FOR Trump, which I've also heard. Republicans love to project to weasel out of situations that way.

So if they present it smartly, (after winning the Presidency and House again of course) and also get some "moderate" Republicans if there are any left, to be bi-partisan co-sponsors, it would leap frog all that BS, confusing deplorables ,which isn't that hard to do. But many would be in favor of it....if only to PROOOOOOOOVE that Democrats were on a witch hunt just like Dear Leader said.

And Mitch (if he gets re-elected) and other R's scrambling to deflate the idea will not go over well. Well at least with a lot of Republican voters. There are those that don't care how much crime Trump or the GOP commit, as long as the R's win. They have been convinced that D's are even MORE corrupt. So corruption and criminal activity, even stealing elections, working with foreign dictators, is all fine....as long as they WIN.

But there are also those Trump voters from 2016 that are so brainwashed that they truly believe all the GOP whiners. That nobody says "Merry Christmas" anymore, immigrants are stealing good jobs and voting illegally, and gays are trying to make their kids into homosexuals. And they also believe that Democrats have this Deep State that, despite Republicans overseeing all 3 branches for most of the time in the last 10+ years, and the SCOTUS as well, they haven't been able to root them out. That somehow, this Deep State is like The Avengers superheros, or their antagonist super group. And are impossible to find and eliminate. And somehow, Democrats have been the ones that have denied justice, denied witnesses, and evidence.

Promise to sign legislation to limit Executive Privilege and presidential authority in general. We have let the office become to powerful.

Yes! This simple statements puts more pressure on these self serving, boot licking cowards in the goPutin party!

and squirreled away for future historians. Those are always revealed once it's "safe" to do so.

I will be voting for the successful Democratic nominee in the general election. If she becomes the successful nominee, great. If she does not, I will vote for whomever the nominee is, in the general election.

I lean toward Warren. We should all recognize that Warren is one of a small number of candidates who will be superb guardians of the Constitution AND the less fortunate.

No quarter to traitors!!

who has so definitively proven how correct she was vs. how wrong-minded he was to side with the credit card companies, big banks, and mortgage companies who helped bring about the Great Recession. Always felt it kind of karmic that Obama tasked him to clean up the mess he helped contribute to.

He/she needs to seek answers to a few very important questions.

1. What are the details of everything Trump is suspected of?

2. What hold does Trump, Vlad, etc have over Republicans that made them so mindlessly co-operative?

3. How was the 2016 voting system contaminated?

4. Why did the electoral college vote not reflect the overall vote by US citizens?

5. How can future votes be protected against outside interference?

6. How can the Constitution be strengthened to protect the US against a take-over bid by a wanna-be dictator backed by outside powers?

7. How can the whole system be strengthened and made faster, so it DOESN'T take years and years to short circuit a wanna-be dictator?

8. Which appointments were made inappropriately/illegally and how can they be withdrawn?

Consider answering all those questions as a serious attempt to REALLY drain the swamp!

Smart move. Trumpers should be taking note. This will define the terms of of the coming general election, even if Trump will cheat to win. And that’s what he’ll do.

I’m surprised the other candidates haven’t mentioned it