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Interesting tweet about the reaction to Bernie retweeting a compliment from Rogan (Original Post) redqueen Jan 2020 OP
i have NO IDEA who rogan is.. samnsara Jan 2020 #1
He's a Howard Stern kind of figure. DanTex Jan 2020 #8
K/R Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #2
So true. The hypocrisy we've been seeing is pretty wild. DanTex Jan 2020 #3
Donald Trump couldn't have responded better! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #6
Did you seriously just compare me to Donald Trump? DanTex Jan 2020 #10
Tim Kaine does not support overturning Roe vs. Wade or taking away a woman's right to choose. StevieM Jan 2020 #4
This tweet is all kinds of wrong. squirecam Jan 2020 #5
There was plenty of outrage over Obama's inauguration invocation. Drunken Irishman Jan 2020 #7
"Bernie retweeting a compliment from Rogan" "thanks Rogan for his support." Scurrilous Jan 2020 #9
BS stuff is endless empedocles Jan 2020 #12
It certainly is. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #15
Top two thanking and retweeting only. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #11
The tweeter is wrong. Tim Kaine is pro-choice. pnwmom Jan 2020 #13
If you believe that squirecam Jan 2020 #14
True, he has stopped backing anti choice measures since 2012. redqueen Jan 2020 #16
The tweet you posted was false about Kaine. He was pro-choice when Hillary appointed him pnwmom Jan 2020 #21
I remember lots of people, including lots of us at DU, being upset tishaLA Jan 2020 #17
Yeah I wasn't on Twitter then so I don't personally know. redqueen Jan 2020 #18
It was certainly an uproar here tishaLA Jan 2020 #20
THAT one I remember redqueen Jan 2020 #22
They only squirecam Jan 2020 #19
 

samnsara

(17,651 posts)
1. i have NO IDEA who rogan is..
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jan 2020

..so maybe hes not so important..?

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. He's a Howard Stern kind of figure.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

He has a youtube talk show where he interviews people, lots of times he says offensive things and gets into conspiracy theories and that sort of thing. I don't particularly like him, I've seen clips of him saying stuff I agree with and I've seen clips of him saying stuff that is totally idiotic. I don't know his political views, but he's definitely got an audience.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. So true. The hypocrisy we've been seeing is pretty wild.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

Part of me wants to chalk it up to the social issue/economic issue dichotomy. I think a lot of centrist Dems are willing to go along with things like social security cuts or deregulation and tax cuts, but are ardent in their opposition to any compromise on social issues. Not even compromise -- it's not like Bernie shares Rogan's views on trans rights or is going to change his platform to accommodate anti-trans or anti-LGBT voters.

Which, fine, if people think economic issues are less important than social issues, that's a consistent point of view.

But as this tweet shows, it's not really even that. It's just a question of personally disliking one candidate or another.

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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
6. Donald Trump couldn't have responded better!
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jan 2020
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DanTex

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10. Did you seriously just compare me to Donald Trump?
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jan 2020
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
4. Tim Kaine does not support overturning Roe vs. Wade or taking away a woman's right to choose.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

I was never a fan of Tim Kaine's selection, but let's keep the facts straight.

Part of the challenge that Hillary faced is that many Bernie supporters were actually convinced that she was going to appoint pro-life Republican judges. I am sure Cenk Uygur and TYT played a big role in that.

By the end of that election Bernie had turned her into Joe Lieberman, the entire history of career notwithstanding.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. This tweet is all kinds of wrong.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jan 2020
https://eaglerising.com/tim-kaine-and-the-myth-of-the-pro-life-democrat/

https://messiahsmandate.org/tim_kaine_is_not_pro-life/

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/07/28/is-tim-kaine-really-prolife-n2197219

Tim Kaine is not pro life. He personally does not like abortion, but believes it is the woman’s CHOICE to make and govt shouldn’t be involved in it.

All of the right wingers consider this position.......pro-choice.


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Drunken Irishman

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7. There was plenty of outrage over Obama's inauguration invocation.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jan 2020

I don't know where this guy was back then, but the outrage was massive and Warren didn't even endorse Obama, just gave an invocation at his inaugural...and he certainly didn't go around touting it.

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Scurrilous

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9. "Bernie retweeting a compliment from Rogan" "thanks Rogan for his support."
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jan 2020

That's pretty much a damn lie. He did way more than that. Much more If you're going to do whataboutism at least be honest. You act like no one was awake last night when this went down and the campaign joined in and pushed this endorsement. The whole crew. Retweeted and thanked. Lie.

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empedocles

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12. BS stuff is endless
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jan 2020
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
15. It certainly is.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jan 2020

I was on Nina Turner's Twitter page looking for the video she posted last night celebrating this. Gone.

But I found another. LOL




I'm at someone's house where there are people who actually had to stand in line for food. A lot. Almost daily. I showed them this. "That's a good thing." Fuck him. He lost South Florida badly in 2016...he's going to lose again. 'That's a good thing."

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Scurrilous

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11. Top two thanking and retweeting only.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jan 2020
&list=FLXTUUdJEsqj0x0CaJnMGHlQ&index=655


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pnwmom

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13. The tweeter is wrong. Tim Kaine is pro-choice.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jan 2020

He supports a woman's right to choose. While his personal view is that abortion is wrong, he doesn't try to impose his views on others. His record on abortion since entering the Senate is very strong.

Millions of Catholics share his position. Should they all be excluded from the party?

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/23/12259036/tim-kaine-vice-president-abortion-views-explained

But ever since Kaine entered the Senate in 2012, he has had a perfect pro-choice voting record, according to NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood. He also insists that issues of reproductive choice and intimacy are personal decisions that the government has no place interfering with. "I deeply believe, and not just as a matter of politics but even as a matter of morality, that matters about reproduction and intimacy and relationships and contraception are in the personal realm," he said in a recent NBC interview.

Some reproductive rights advocates remain deeply frustrated that Clinton would pick Kaine. They say it’s not enough just to vote the right way when abortion rights are under attack in America. They’re working to combat the stigma of abortion, and find attitudes like Kaine’s counterproductive.

At the same time, Kaine genuinely seems to have evolved on the issue of reproductive rights — as many in the Democratic Party have in recent years. And some advocates don’t want to dismiss the value of that.

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squirecam

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14. If you believe that
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jan 2020

A choice is personal to a woman, then you have to be ok with the fact that others disagree with that personal choice.

Kaine is pro-choice. Period.

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redqueen

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16. True, he has stopped backing anti choice measures since 2012.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jan 2020

Still, he signed bills which created "crisis pregnancy" centers. It's good that he has evolved since then, but that's pretty frickin bad.

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pnwmom

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21. The tweet you posted was false about Kaine. He was pro-choice when Hillary appointed him
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jan 2020

and he's pro-choice now.

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tishaLA

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17. I remember lots of people, including lots of us at DU, being upset
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jan 2020

that Obama invited an anti-LGBTQ minister to speak at his inaugural, so I have no idea what brand of historical revisionism the tweet is trying to sell.

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redqueen

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18. Yeah I wasn't on Twitter then so I don't personally know.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe it just wasn't as big of an uproar?

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tishaLA

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20. It was certainly an uproar here
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jan 2020

Even his participation in that forum Rick Warren had at his pathetic ant-LGBTQ megachurch.

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redqueen

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22. THAT one I remember
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
19. They only
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jan 2020

care about Bernie. Small tent. Big tent. Whatever gets him elected.

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