Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIf I were an Iowan I'm afraid I might switch to Biden.
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I've been waiting and hoping to see Americans finally create a structural change wave. But one led by Warren, not Sanders. Watching Sanders regain a place at the top scares me. I delivered precinct G for George McGovern and delivered Massachusetts (joke), but I don't want to make that mistake again. I'm afraid Sanders might build on the fragmentation of the rest of the field and would probably vote to help coalesce a non-Sanders faction. Biden seems to be it. I'm glad I don't have to make a decision this early.
Edit on the day of the caucuses: Well, if I were an Iowan, I'd stick with Warren. I've decided it's too early to jump ship in fear of Sanders. I'll wait till after the 1st 4 states to see how the wind is blowing. To see if maybe we do have a mini-revolution a brewing. I'm not concerned at all about the "woman" thing. Hillary one by 3 million votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(131,227 posts)Time to decide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,113 posts)brought her numbers down. They implied she was a con, dishonest, and an elitist.
Why focus on Warren so intently? Both camps laid off Sanders after his health scare, assuming he was no longer a threat. I credit them for Sanders rise now.
I am not rewarding either of them for their cynical targeting of Warren and even attacking her integrity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,906 posts)He never attacked her. bernie and the boyz did, and are.
Biden hasn't attacked. His campaign is focussed on trump, not dems or indies, or even the russian.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,113 posts)Bernies camp started attacking her this past month. Biden and Pete were doing it all fall.
Grover Norquist's ATR applauded Biden's 1st attack last September.
Posted by Adam Sabes on Monday, September 23rd, 2019, 11:23 AM PERMALINK
Biden Attacks Warren: "She's Going to Raise People's Taxes
Joe Biden slammed Elizabeth Warren for dodging the middle class tax question and said that her Medicare for All plan would raise taxes.
"Its going to cost a lot of money and she's going to raise people's taxes doing it," Biden said during a town hall in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on Friday.
Responding to Biden, Warren dodged the question again and told a CNN reporter that "Giant corporations are going to see their costs go up. But costs, for middle class families, for working-class families, for the people that are squeezed so badly, are going to go down."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/us/politics/joe-biden-elizabeth-warren.html
Biden rips Warren's credibility after contentious Democratic debate
Trevor Hunnicutt
4 MIN READ
COLUMBUS, Ohio (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden questioned surging rival Elizabeth Warrens credibility on Wednesday, accusing her of failing to be open with voters about how she would pay for her ambitious Medicare for All healthcare proposal.
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Biden said it was absolutely ridiculous that Warren would not delve into the details of her healthcare proposal, drawing a comparison to Trump.
The last thing the Democrats should be doing is playing Trumps game and trying to con the American people to think this is easy. Theres nothing easy about
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,906 posts)Proof?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,113 posts)And targeted Warren.
Heres more.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/06/joe-biden-calls-warren-elitist-066637
Elitist': Biden steps up attacks on Warren
The former VP is looking to stoke resentment among working class voters by casting Warren as a snooty Harvard professor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)& BS' press sec went on Cenk's show to defend BS.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Warren accusing Sanders of calling her a liar analyzed by experts
https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/warren-accusing-sanders-of-calling-her-a-liar-analyzed-by-experts-77034565532
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,113 posts)after his heart attack and focused fire on Warren.
Bernie gained strength during that time. THEN his camp went after Warren, too.
Blame Biden and Buttegieg camps for Sanders current position.......Warrens campaign was close to making him irrelevant last fall.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,113 posts)AS they both laid off Sanders thinking his health would stop him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/478464-hilltv-host-krystal-ball-accuses-warren-of-accuses-warren-of-launching-vicious-attack-on-sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,574 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)WAPO poll out yesterday gives Biden a huge lead in beating trump
Biden 38
Sanders 18
Link to tweet
?s=21
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,574 posts)"Biden/Schiff 2020. Because karma."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pamdb
(1,332 posts)I do not like Sanders. I do not want Sanders. There is no part of Sanders I like.
I want Biden and either Val Demmings or Kamala Harris. I like Joe Biden.
I will vote for Sanders if he gets the nomination but he will not win. I don't care how many college students like Sanders, most of them won't show up to vote anyway.
I am a 68 year old woman and I really fear if Sanders get he nomination, there are a lot of
republicans Lite and independents who might vote for Biden but WILL NOT vote for Sanders.
There, I've said it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)Sanders only has an advantage in these early "white" states.
If his health falters again though, all bets on him are off.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Those who state Bernie can't win refuse to accept this reality .. Tens of millions of Swing Voters ..They are out of politics now , but will swing back into voting (D) - if Bernie wins the nomination We also need the voters who defected to the Greens and the youngsters , too Millions of kids will work their ass off to get Bernie elected .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,906 posts)They know demagoguery when they see it.
This is going to be an anti-chaos electorate. They will stay home if their only choice is left wing chaos or right wing chaos.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,660 posts)He certainly will turn off a big chunk of Democratic voters from what I've seen. Not a great way to start off a general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,525 posts)I suspect that voting will be fairly far down the list for many of those students.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)I'm supporting Amy for several reasons, but I hear the worry some put out about Bernie and Joe.
Really if you are afraid of a Sanders nomination, who in the current crop of candidates would challenge him best? Amy
If you have doubts about Biden, who presents the nearest match to him? Amy
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... her would help fracture the Sanders opposition just like a vote for Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)could happen again. Don't be. trump has been exposed now. his disapproval rate is historic and that's very important.
Its past time for the first woman president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StevieM
(10,500 posts)She lost to James Comey. He dominated that race from start to finish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)world-stage stature. Time for the candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)Am in agreement
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)Warren is by far and away my preferred choice, but I'm also terrified of Sanders winning the nomination. Even if he could beat Trump, I think that Bernie's go-it-alone attitude and unwillingness to compromise would make him a terrible President, just at a time when real challenges - including a likely recession (which we're due to have) - will hit the country. I don't always agree with Biden, but he's as decent and honorable as they come, as well as a lifelong Democrat. And if he's what it takes to stop Sanders and to start cleaning up Trump's mess, I'm 100% in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Pete's people are not going to Sanders so where are they going to go? Same for Klobuchar. Bloomberg voters ...where are they going to go.???
I worry about this splintered vote which allowed dump in the door and he took over.
I don't want that happening to us! I feel the same could happen to us!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Edit on the day of the caucuses: Well, if I were an Iowan, I'd stick with Warren. I've decided it's too early to jump ship in fear of Sanders. I'll wait till after the 1st 4 states to see how the wind is blowing. To see if maybe we do have a mini-revolution a brewing. I'm not concerned at all about the "woman" thing. Hillary one by 3 million votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden