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Joe Rogan: Cornel West Interview 7/19
Would somebody please tell Cornel?
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Joe Rogan: Cornel West Interview 7/19 (Original Post)
iwannaknow
Jan 2020
OP
Cornell West is absolutely awful. At least this is Rogan's schtick....there is no excuse for
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#2
RandySF
(59,414 posts)1. Do I have to repeat what West said about Pres. Obama?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,954 posts)6. Joined 2006. nt
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)2. Cornell West is absolutely awful. At least this is Rogan's schtick....there is no excuse for
brother West. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)3. Great podcast
Love Joe.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)4. Joe Rogan is a stupid person's idea of a smart person. He is garbage.
If you want to promote a guy who pushed birtherism and Seth Rich conspiracy theories, you are on the wrong site.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,499 posts)5. Tell him that his stances on Dems are ridiculous?
Well, yes, we should do that.
Some of his recent quotes:
"The Democratic Party Cannot Be Reformed"
"Let's dump the Democratic Party"
Or look up any of his attacks on Obama, including claiming his entire presidency was a failure.
Sorry, but I'm not going to take him any more seriously than Rogan. They're both hacks.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,954 posts)7. Corney...
snip
West has called Obama a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface" and both recently criticized Al Sharpton's support of the president as an example of him being "on the Obama's plantation". These inflammatory remarks only discredit whatever valid criticisms Smiley and West may have about how President Obama has conducted himself over the past five years. And that's a shame because the two men would otherwise have so much to offer the country as true intellectuals.
Smiley and West were supposed to be two of the thinkers helping to place Obama's eight years in office in a wider context. They ought to have been our moral barometers, men who would advocate for the change Obama promised in 2008. With the spotlight on an African-American president and the state of race relations in this country, it was only natural that Smiley and West would shine, becoming iconic leaders their previous work seemed to prepare them for. So, for people like myself who grew up on the example they set, the spectacle of Smiley and West engaging in crude Obama-bashing is more embarrassing than inspiring.
There's definitely a space to criticize the president, but potshots only neuter Smiley and West's ability to effectively point out Obama's flaws.
Last week, President Obama delivered a landmark speech in reaction to the George Zimmerman verdict. In his 17-minute speech, he broke down the problems facing black men in this country and articulated many of the vexed issues that explain why the Zimmerman verdict hit close to home for Americans like myself. The speech was widely celebrated in the black community and, from a personal aspect, was one of those pivotal moments I'll never forget.
Smiley and West didn't see it that way. West responded by pointing out how drone strikes make Obama a "global George Zimmerman", while Smiley said the speech was "weak as pre-sweetened Kool-Aid" (whatever that means).
Smiley and West were supposed to be two of the thinkers helping to place Obama's eight years in office in a wider context. They ought to have been our moral barometers, men who would advocate for the change Obama promised in 2008. With the spotlight on an African-American president and the state of race relations in this country, it was only natural that Smiley and West would shine, becoming iconic leaders their previous work seemed to prepare them for. So, for people like myself who grew up on the example they set, the spectacle of Smiley and West engaging in crude Obama-bashing is more embarrassing than inspiring.
There's definitely a space to criticize the president, but potshots only neuter Smiley and West's ability to effectively point out Obama's flaws.
Last week, President Obama delivered a landmark speech in reaction to the George Zimmerman verdict. In his 17-minute speech, he broke down the problems facing black men in this country and articulated many of the vexed issues that explain why the Zimmerman verdict hit close to home for Americans like myself. The speech was widely celebrated in the black community and, from a personal aspect, was one of those pivotal moments I'll never forget.
Smiley and West didn't see it that way. West responded by pointing out how drone strikes make Obama a "global George Zimmerman", while Smiley said the speech was "weak as pre-sweetened Kool-Aid" (whatever that means).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-disservice-african-americans
Fugg Smiley and West.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)8. Maybe he didn't see Rogan's twitter feed?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden