who has given 30 years to progressive causes for a living, why do I not have the right to be offended by this individual stereotyping white people? Maybe she should offer an apology.

why.. Because she's Not talking to me or anyone who does Not embrace joe the Liar/Racist rogan.

rogan's a damn Racist.. and Imani is OFFENDED.

CNN: Biden & Warren campaigns said they hadn't asked to appear on Rogan's show

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287446665

Lucky you don't have a temper, Cha!

and no.. not the whiskey kind.

Aloha, denem!

I'm Irish too.

Total maternal, part paternal.


Scurrilous@Scurrilous15 Replying to @TIME and @ProfessorCrunk

I'm voting for Biden because he's Irish. Where do I stand? (joke)


V Perry@V4vendetta14
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Halfway between malarkey and dementia.




Never end a reply w/ a question.

The Irish are back in the hunt!

Identity politics!! LOL

Henry Healy is related to President Obama!

Link to tweet

My mother was a Healy. She had tons of cousins back home.

BTW...have you watched Derry Girls on Netflix? Hilarious. Especially the nun.

No I haven't heard of Derry Girls.. I'll have to check it.. thank you, Scurrilous!

He’s also a birther
Votes libertarian
Against LBGQT rights

Don’t be offended...find out who the guy really is!!

He's a Liar, too..

CNN: Biden & Warren campaigns said they hadn't asked to appear on Rogan's show

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287446665

and anyone who doesn't disavow his endorsement.

Why not feel her anguish before you come up with your own grievance to negate what she is feeling?

I'm white and not offended. Have given 30+ years to Democratic causes.

to progressive causes. I am not in the least offended. Nor should I ever get an apology. It’s sad and true that I reap the benefits of white privilege even though I never asked for it. I shouldn’t have been able to reap those benefits. That is the point. It should be an equal field.... a truly equal field. So I don’t begrudge anyone calling out racism and inequality even though I try to fight for them. I have no historical legs to stand on. I have never walked in her shoes. I can only empathize. But my empathy isn’t complete since I know nothing of what it is like to be truly be a minority. Imagination and explanation goes only so far.

Get offended. If you want reasons why you shouldn’t then no amount of reasons are going to convince you otherwise.

“White guy”...I’m sure you can appreciate the good fortune and low difficulty setting you have in life. Please elaborate on why this woman of color should offer an apology to YOU? I’ll wait....

First, did I understand the OP (or other person) correctly? Is it true? How could I clarify? Maybe ask the one posting what they meant?

Second, is posting about my reaction wise?

Third, is my post helpful? Does it promote community?

Can't forget that there are a lot of bad actors trying to stir up anger to split us and get us to react in a way that causes a vicious cycle to get started. (I'm not talking about righteous anger like the OP's of course.)

"Can't we just all get along."

Social Justice isn't a progressive cause? Wow, just wow..

why a racist POS endorsement for a Democratic candidate who then celebrates said endorsement is just fine. I mean what's the big deal comparing POC to apes...it is so hillarious and all. And after all the progressive stuff we have done how dare those ungrateful POC be offended...

Sid

Do you really allow people that much control over you?

Or are you simply arguing against a point no one else is making in order to better appear substantive or relevant?

You may want to evaluate yourself.

on the problems of other black people - considered responsible for the entire race, so this is kind of fair - if white people were treated the same, as a one-group, we have to answer for the idiocy of other white people.

she was not talking about you, so no need for an apology.

You are new and missed all those posts in the African American group here. You should read them, they are enlightening.

PS. I am white and no where close to being insulted. She is not talking about me.

the NotAllWhitePeople argument?

That's like insisting on saying All Lives Matter.

I had no idea who Joe Rogan was.

Now, I know.

and I'm offended by everything he says... starting with his speculation about Hillary giving every guy in a room blowjobs to win their vote ( and how that wouldn't work).

I cannot imagine any of our candidates accepting his endorsement and I can't stand the explanation and excuses by supporters of the candidate he did endorse.

Racist POS. Well I guess the interesting question is can Rogan`s toxic followers replace Black voters and help Sanders win the nomination? He sure is going to lose the little AA support he has. Sanders and his supporters think this is a winning strategy. I disagree.

is authentic.

(six of one, half a dozen of the other.. and each as petulant in weight)

Are all us white folk to blame for what some say or do?

Joe Rogan's comparing a "Black Neighborhood to Planet of the Apes".

that's what the OP is About.

The usual dodge.

Sid

Especially if one's narrative is predicated on ignoring the most basic of context.

Jesus H Roosevelt Christ...how can anyone in their right mind take Joe the racist misogynist Rogan seriously at ALL let alone after the ONE comment comparing a black neighborhood to Planet of the Apes? Does this asshole have anything else to offer? NO he does not.

a bit dizzying, MontanaMama...

then she isn't talking about you.

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I looked into all of the stuff being brought about him up and this was the one that stood out as inexcusable.

Follow her on Twitter.

during the bush years.

His campaign completely ignores the pain and suffering of minorities while giving preferential treatment to a solitary group.

She can be as offended as she chooses to be as far as I'm concerned. I'm just not going to take on her outrage with her for purposes of attacking Sen. Sanders.

or Tulsi Gabbard? I’m confused.

If Gabbard drops out before my states primary I will choose between Sanders and Yang. I donate what I can to all three campaigns.

No one?

If no one, then your self-serving irrelevancy is really nothing more than that.

To become outraged for the purpose of changing one's primary vote to either the OPs preferred candidate or from the candidate the OP doesn't prefer? In this case a presentation of how the Rogan endorsement has caused outrage towards Sen. Sanders therefore it isn't sensible to support an outrage inducing candidate due to said example of outrage.

I'd say I'm not totally irrelevant as you gave me a splash of relevancy when you blessed me with your response. Thank you for your selfless act.

Joe Rogan.. that's what the OP is about.

She needs to show a liitle gratitude don't you see? And White people really are the ones being persecuted here...they are offended damn it

I suggest that everyone sees the clip. I'm Black, not offensive at all man I'm getting concerned that people are reaching for something to be offended. Also, if you watch the clip ...he ends up talking about the lack of black empowerment in Hollywood odd that this is the new outrage. Nope, not that surprising a new hit posted by Biden supporters against Sanders.

I don't care if you're "surprised" or not.

It seems to be a lot of hit pieces against Sanders. Not a lot of Biden policy points or cool campaign pics. Just saying seems like a trend of attacking the other guy rather than lifting up your candidate. Let's get positive so when it's time for us to vote TOGETHER for whoever wins we can get Turd-head-combover OUT!

You see at some point all the supporters of WHOEVER wins will need to get all the votes of those who lose to beat Trump. We don't need to make that gap so vast that we can't overcome it in our own coalition. Right now it looks like Biden and Sanders are shaping up to be the big two. With Sanders pulling ahead in Iowa things could get ugly in S.C. and we don't need war we need a debate. So YES, it is about me.

and how rogan's Stupid Racist "Planet of the Apes" affected her.

Like I said it's about the Coalition, all fractions need to work together to get Trump out. If Biden wins he will need Sanders people, if Sanders wins he will need Biden people, etc. Posting inflammatory OPs and Tweets doesn't help us. I'm in the us.

They encouraged me to fight for my beliefs and support others, two proud Dems that demanded that me and my siblings never joined the bandwagon without thinking. I wish others would get off the "fake outrage" machine here. If you hate Rogen or Sanders dont listen or vote for them but DAMN to echo someone else's outrage for your own is just inflammatory.

asshole, joe rogan.

Just making sure I'm making my reply to "Cha". As they stated that this was not about me. I didn't want to assign a gender and I don't know the poster so I used the screen name.

The stuff being thrown at the cult leader are.

He's being vetted and exposed. That's what is supposed to happen in elections/primaries.

on is Exempt.

And are you equally upset about attacks on Biden and other candidates or is it just Bernie?

It's not that we disagree, it's now moving to attacks that will be impossible to mend in the general. If you guys are riding so hard for Biden what happens if he loses to Bernie? Will you vote for someone you been saying is dishonest and devisive?

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whether a BS supporter is "offended".

Imani Gandy didn't post on Democratic Underground. Someone who supported Bidden did.

along with 10,000 other people.. so far..

Link to tweet

Joe Rogan has over 7.3 million subscribers on youtube alone. Not including podcast downloads. So if we are going to do an "Appeal to Popular Belief" fallacy. 10, 000 is less than 7 million right? Just checking.

because 7 million people say so and they have downloads...wow. DAMN IT, we should have kept Jim Crow, it was so popular and all.

There is right and wrong. Rogan and his followers are wrong. They spread hatred against minorities and others disguised as comedy. I don't care how many truly clueless people follow Rogan. I sincerely hope sanders pays a price politically for celebrating this vile endorsement because it says something about us as a nation if he doesn't.

that are not available in either logic or critical thought.



Great thing about the internet... we can pretend any bumper sticker is law.

Did you just read that last post that ignored the logical fallacy of an "appeal to popular" opinion. That I pointed out. Yes you did because you know what to dogpile me Haha Haha. Nope. Sorry I can't take this seriously. I can't. This is silly. Joe Rogen is a good endorsement if you donr like it's a good thing your guy didn't get it let's see how it plays out.

subscribing to rogan's stupid racist shite.

Imagine them voting for a Democratic Coalition rather than a Republican one. You know votes, the thing that wins elections.

… he didn't have to promote the fact that he got that endorsement and he'd still have gotten a lot of the Rogan fans to vote for him. So yeah, their votes are votes, but where do we draw the line? What if David Duke endorsed him? Would Bernie celebrate then? Where's your line? I'm curious.

I'm still undecided, but I really wish they had a "Not Bernie" under the list on this site.

And yeah, I'll vote for anyone over Trump, including Bernie, but that's not saying much. I put a gif request post on my Facebook Wall asking for the most outlandish person someone would vote for over Trump. Mine was Charles Manson. I have to really delve into my mind to see if that's actually really true. I think it is. I think I'd vote for Jeffrey Dahmer over Trump so saying I'll vote for Bernie if he's the nominee really isn't an endorsement.

Joe's quick on his feet.

if that's the best you can do . is to go after him for someone who endorses him. talk about petty.

who as a POC is Offended by joe Fucking Rogan's "Planet of the Apes" spew.

Yeah, joe rogan is a "petty" racist.

Link to tweet

endorsed BS.. it's the BS campaign is "Embracing" it.

Bernie Sanders Boasts of Joe Rogan Endorsement Calling Him 'Insanely Consistent His Entire Life'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=442400

cut it within the ranks of the Democratic Party. Cha and the vast majority of Democrats feel a duty to stand up to racism.

I don't have too much a problem with those who allow insults to minority groups go unchallenged. They have to live with themselves. But when they question the motives of those with the courage to stand up, that riles me a bit.

Rogan is bad guy.

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Are we living in a society where racism doesn’t exist, and if someone makes an egregiously racist comment it’s supposed to be all in good fun, cause the dude is nice enough sometimes?

We can’t seem to agree to break down racism to its core causes and manifestations during these kind of debates.. I mean I could try, but it would be a lengthy and ignored post.. but people will all join up and hold hands when a Black man is gunned down by the cops? Why then and not now?

Racisms existence needs to be called out. All the time. Every time Imani Gandy has been speaking out against it for a long time. She is an advocate for a woman's right to choose, she speaks her truth about being a Black woman in America She is an attorney.

She’s as intense an activist as you can get. Seriously.

Her voice on Twitter isn’t nearly all of what she does, and when she speaks, I have enough respect for her experience and wisdom to listen.

Notging has changed in four years

What the hell does Imani's Tweet have to do with "voting for BS"?

What are you talking about 4 years ago?

the racist POS joe rogan.

lol

It’s all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.

Unfortunately, that's not a flattering or complimentary thing.

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