Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders allies in new uproar over DNC convention appointments
The HillSanderss allies are incensed by two names in particular - former Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who will co-chair the rules committee, and Hillary Clintons former campaign chairman John Podesta, who will have a seat on that committee.
The Sanders campaign unsuccessfully sought to have Frank removed from the rules committee in 2016, describing him as an aggressive attack surrogate for the Clinton campaign.
And Podesta, a longtime Washington political consultant and Clinton confidante, is viewed with contempt by some on the left. One of Podestas hacked emails from 2016 showed him asking a Democratic strategist where to stick the knife in Sanders, who lost the nomination to Clinton after a divisive primary contest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Oldest_Millenial
(61 posts)Given Podesta and Frank's track record with the progressive wing of the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)plucking. Our party is not going to be taken over by an outsider.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gab13by13
(21,447 posts)FDR? Heck, would you have been sick of Republican Teddy Roosevelt?
I will never be a 3rd Way Democrat but I know better than to knock them.
I guess we Democrats should start believing in trickle down voodoo economics and allow corporate America to run the show.
AOC was a rising star until she allied with Bernie. Elizabeth Warren has many of the same policies as Bernie yet she doesn't get bashed.
IMO the DNC needs to be neutral, needs to follow the wishes of the majority, whether that be Biden or Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Oldest_Millenial
(61 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Nor was he America First.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)with experience at the cabinet level, and an understanding of the way things actually worked from the inside.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)He was attacked from the left with the exact same language that is used against non-Sanders candidates today. He was excoriated by the socialists for saving capitalism, and by the populists for being an out of touch millionaire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)is dead. Nobody apparently studies it, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I learned them from Pete Seeger's banjo instruction book, back in 1962. Then I switched to Scruggs style picking and quit frailing, except for a couple of tunes.
I hadn't heard that song before. Thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I frail mostly nowadays, but it's a fun song. I hadn't noticed that's the same progression until you said that: thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I was trying to play too many instruments, so I gave up bluegrass. I was never a great banjo player anyhow. I could pick my way through most anything, but didn't spend enough time mastering the thing. Story of my life. I was part of a quartet that played bluegrass music, but our real plus was our singing. Not so much the instrumental part. We played all over the place, though, back in the early to mid 60s. We even played at the Monterey folk festival one year, over in the corner, with a small audience. I even got to meet Joan Baez at that festival, which was pretty overwhelming for me as a skinny 19-year-old kid. She was nice enough, though, and smiled a lot.
"Keep practicing," she said, after hearing us play and sing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Not long after I picked up the banjo, I went to a music store to buy some new strings and some finger picks, since I was starting to learn Scruggs-style picking. There was a guy in the store, just playing the life out of a Bacon 5-string. I listened to him for a while, and said, as only a 16-year-old kid would, "How long have you been playing the banjo."
"About six months," the guy replied. Depressed the hell out of me, until I realized that he was making a joke. Then he said, "I can give you lessons kid..." But, I had no money for lessons, so I took my strings and shiny National finger picks and went back to my books of banjo tablature and learned on my own.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)IYKWIM?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)seems more like a feature than a bug.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)running today. He compromised repeatedly on all types of policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)divisive and feeds Trumpist goals without even being conscious of that fact. Certainly progressives, a large and vocal minority within our party, needs its agenda to be heard, an opportunity to influence leadership, and to have its candidates represented fairly and equally with
those of a more majority viewpoint.
But Bernie-ism is driving a wedge, justifying support for a loathsome racist now, threatening defection, proud to employ dirty tactics...
Its leader needs to renounce this divisiveness and dirty, desperate politicking.
Yes, I absolutely agree that that particular brand does no service to progressive ideals and harms
our party while it may still do worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,340 posts)Look what when an outsider took over the republican party. They've lost themselves and will never be the same.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bottomofthehill
(8,352 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Aligning himself with the right once again.
Please note, sarcasm thingy added. I dont know how to get that fancy red thing but Barney Frank is a champion of the left and a champion of actually getting things done. He was a champion when working for Kevin White, he was a champion when working for Michael Harrington he was in the Massachusetts State House and in the US House. Its easy to sit on the sidelines and complain of the work others have done. He passed actual legislation and took progressive stands when it was not as easy or popular an it is now. He is a true Hero and a true Champion for progressive causes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Oldest_Millenial
(61 posts)Not mine
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,885 posts)Below the Reply title line, look at the row of lozenges, left to right, until you come to (smilies). Click on that. Go to the bottom line of cute little guys to where it has 3 dots (...) and click on that to get the next page. At the top left of that page you will see Click on that to insert in your text.
A quick shortcut is to use colons : on either side of the word sarcasm, no spaces.
Enjoy!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)imagine that! Would they prefer someone who voted green?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Oldest_Millenial
(61 posts)Is that too much to ask?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,527 posts)Impartial. Is that what theyre calling unabashedly pro Bernie these days?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)that our party stop letting someone who is not a Democrat run as a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)and retire from office, while he's at it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)required to earn influence in it. Easy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He serves and votes as an Independent, because he has no interest in being part of the party.
He has stated this many times.
Is that clearer?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
chillfactor
(7,584 posts)really?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,608 posts)for key staff positions?
Hillary Clinton was the last Democratic Presidential nominee, for God's sake!!! Why shouldn't some of her people be on the DNC committees? Just because a defeated candidate doesn't like them? Which candidate is giving a big "F U" to the party by the key staff he hires?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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MH1
(17,608 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Bananaluver
(83 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,650 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Barney was recently on Real Time bad mouthing Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,046 posts)I say, play it Sam-if we can take it, he can take it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,668 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gab13by13
(21,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You'll never hear Barney Frank calling the Democratic party "feeble" or "ideologically bankrupt". Barney Frank won't be accusing the Democratic party of being "corrupt" and he won't be calling Democrats "the party of the elite" and "the party of the one-percent". Barney Frank does not hate the Democratic party and he does not proclaim the party to be "an absolute failure."
Frank doesn't accuse Democrats of being "do-nothings", and he doesn't accuse Democrats of "focusing 'too-much' on Diversity". And something else about Barney Frank's character: he doesn't defend or make excuses for racists... he knows that if someone refuses to vote for a candidate because of his/her skin color... then that voter is indeed a racist.
Thank GOD for Barney Frank, DEMOCRAT!
We need more LOYAL DEMOCRATS just like him!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bottomofthehill
(8,352 posts)Its hard to find space to the left of him, but in the new world order, maybe there is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,527 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"They are so afraid of Joe Biden. This is unbelievable. Their entire day was focused on their #1 fear." "Yesterday on the senate floor they kept attacking Biden. That is a godsend for Joe Biden."
The Republican's Tuesday impeachment "trial" message: "It didn't happen, it doesn't matter if it did, and Joe Biden sucks."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,711 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)they are revolutioning!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)is so 'establishment' and all those in fashion buzz words.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,050 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)Some need outrage more to survive than food, water and even oxygen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Tom Perez was ELECTED
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,527 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,431 posts)they can take a hike.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,431 posts)the 2016 Convention DNC platform committee. The DNC had elevated him to the position on the committee as an olive branch Bernie's campaign.
West rewarded them and the Democratic Party by joining up with Stein after having a hissy fit with the committee.
To my knowledge, West has never apologized for his part in getting Trump into the White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)His JUVENILE behavior doesn't surprise me at all. He doesn't seem to be too smart in how things work, and how to "play well with others" (so to speak.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,469 posts)fail...complain, I guess?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Here we go again.
Trump and his team are no doubt laughing their asses off.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hekate
(90,885 posts)I could be wrong about that-- I'm only going by what he says about us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)Really? Aren't we supposed to strive for unity?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Not smart, but then their actions last time, well, past is prologue, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Have you never heard that phrase before?
What do you think of Sanders buddy Cornel West's statements about President Obama? And Nina Turner's diatribes against Hillary? They make 'stick a knife' sound mild.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)So do you agree that people who say things like that shouldn't be on the convention committee?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Another display of a grand desire to unite the party.
I guess uniting the party is fine as long as its the progressives falling under the bus.
My only question is why do they expect it to go any better than last time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,668 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,527 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)where it WASN'T the left wing thrown under the bus by the moderates.
Care to share?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)It's 'truth to the power' if you do it for Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bananaluver
(83 posts)party. Who is he to come along and tell Democrats what to do?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jose Garcia
(2,609 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)Who do they expect to control the democratic convention? The green party? Republicans? Joe Rogan?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)to control DNC Committees. How obsurd.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,308 posts)I'm sorry but I've been a Democrat for years. Will till I die, unlike others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,585 posts)Asking for a friend...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LSFL
(1,110 posts)Bernie is the Cleveland Browns of candidates. They are hyped to high heaven early on only to inevitably be crushed later. Occasionally they may have a shot of playing spoiler and rob someone superior of a chance at winning. This opens the door for undeserving people to win.
Like Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden