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highplainsdem

(49,049 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:28 AM Jan 2020

Bernie Sanders Fans Leave Iowa College's Mock Caucus in Protest As he Gets Trounced by Warren

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Supporters of Independent Vermont Senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders left a mock caucus at Iowa’s Drake University in protest after Massachusetts Senator and Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren won and Sanders failed to meet the event’s “viability threshold.”

With voting in Iowa’s statewide caucuses just a week away, colleges held simulations of the events across the state Monday night. NBC News campaign embed Ben Pu covered the Drake University mock caucus, and reported that after the first round, only Warren and former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg exceeded the 15 percent viability threshold.

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NBC News’ Maura Barrett, one of apparently a zillion or so reporters at this event, reported that Sanders got 21 votes in the first round, and was dwarfed by Warren at 73 and Mayor Pete at 47.

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Pu reported that the Sanders group failed at gaining additional supporters on the second round, and rather than realign with another candidate, they went home.

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Bernie Sanders Fans Leave Iowa College's Mock Caucus in Protest As he Gets Trounced by Warren (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP
They are practicing their act for the Democratic National Convention. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #1
This Me. Jan 2020 #7
sure, and they will do the same in the general.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #2
This is true, not a spoof? LisaM Jan 2020 #3
Your College Republican Political action committee's getting their rat-fucking creds? OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2020 #4
So if those people were supposedly really Republicans, would that mean there were no real Sanders highplainsdem Jan 2020 #8
Of course not. There are plenty of committed young Democrats voting/supporting Bernie. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2020 #10
Well where were the Sanders supporters then? He wasn't viable. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #17
At that site. judeling Jan 2020 #20
I am sorry, they are such babies, it is their way or the highway. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #5
There It Is, Again Me. Jan 2020 #6
That is exactly the correct move for Sanders judeling Jan 2020 #9
They were college kids... lees1975 Jan 2020 #11
To me, THIS speaks BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #12
You don't shake hands after the first quarter, thats after the game. judeling Jan 2020 #13
That's a bad look. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #14
Yes indeed it is! Is this a preview of the bullying and intimidation behavior we'll see at the real... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #16
The Sanders supporters Seem to understand how it is to be played. judeling Jan 2020 #15
Well maybe the other kids did understand civics...but there was no reason for them to walk out Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #18
Isn't going to win At that caucus site. judeling Jan 2020 #19
 

comradebillyboy

(10,179 posts)
1. They are practicing their act for the Democratic National Convention.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(14,906 posts)
2. sure, and they will do the same in the general....
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jan 2020

pathetic really.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LisaM

(27,845 posts)
3. This is true, not a spoof?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020

Not a good look, and even worse than 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OAITW r.2.0

(24,679 posts)
4. Your College Republican Political action committee's getting their rat-fucking creds?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jan 2020

His campaign seems particularly ripe for an inflection point into our Party politics. They could be registered as I/D, but their real goal is to help get Trump rewarded....and then reap the expected financial rewards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,049 posts)
8. So if those people were supposedly really Republicans, would that mean there were no real Sanders
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jan 2020

supporters there? They just magically missed the mock caucus?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OAITW r.2.0

(24,679 posts)
10. Of course not. There are plenty of committed young Democrats voting/supporting Bernie.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

But there is a certain deja vu vibes as to how this campaign is playing out - much like 2016.

And why wouldn't Republicans replay this scenario in 2020?

And the YRCPAC's will be leading the chorus that the DNC killed off Bernie's chances and that's why he lost. UNFAIR!!!

Thus disillusioning another generation of people who should be supporting candidates with strong ties to our Party and Country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,730 posts)
17. Well where were the Sanders supporters then? He wasn't viable.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:25 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
20. At that site.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jan 2020

There will be 100's where that will be true. Every candidate will not be viable in 100's of places.

This is not a measure of even strength at that site on the real night. The Sanders people know the process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
5. I am sorry, they are such babies, it is their way or the highway.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jan 2020

This party will NOT be bullied by his supporters again like we were in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. There It Is, Again
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jan 2020

How the Sanders people behave after a loss.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
9. That is exactly the correct move for Sanders
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jan 2020

It is statewide numbers that are reported. If they realigned then that would give their vote to a Rival. By holding firm Sanders numbers would not drop between the first and second round. As delegates were already determined no reason to stay.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lees1975

(3,894 posts)
11. They were college kids...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jan 2020

Since the schools don't do much with Civics anymore, it takes a while to learn how to do this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
12. To me, THIS speaks
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

volumes:

... rather than realign with another candidate, they went home.


Just like their candidate, they are NOT team players.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
13. You don't shake hands after the first quarter, thats after the game.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jan 2020

What the Sanders people did is exactly what would be best for their candidate in his race for the nomination. This is exactly what happens in caucuses. If the rules were different and numbers were not reported they probably would have moved to Buttigieg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,527 posts)
14. That's a bad look.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jan 2020

I thought Bernie was a shoe in for the nomination because he was going to blow the doors off everyone else with a people powered campaign led by young people?

And he can’t even win a mock caucus at a college?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. Yes indeed it is! Is this a preview of the bullying and intimidation behavior we'll see at the real...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

Yes indeed it is! Is this a preview of the bullying and intimidation behavior we'll see at the real caucus events?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
15. The Sanders supporters Seem to understand how it is to be played.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

This says nothing about what will happen after Sanders is not running.
This is exactly the correct thing for them to do in the process of the caucus. If there was more business to be done and they thought they could have an effect on that they would have stayed.

But leaving is part of the rules and what was best for their candidate in THAT context.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,730 posts)
18. Well maybe the other kids did understand civics...but there was no reason for them to walk out
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jan 2020

as they won. I would expect those with non-competitive primary candidates supporters to realign as they know their candidate isn't going to win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
19. Isn't going to win At that caucus site.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jan 2020

If they realign they hurt their candidate statewide.

This is exactly what I expect the Sanders campaign to do and why I expect Warren to underperform.

If not viable in first round, work the second round but stand firm. Leave or participate in further business if interested your choice.

Other candidates will have other strategies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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