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bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:18 PM Jan 2020

Bernie Fans Leave Iowa College's Mock Caucus in Protest As he Gets Trounced by Warren

Supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders (I-VT) left a mock caucus at Iowa’s Drake University in protest after Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) won and Sanders failed to meet the event’s “viability threshold.”

With voting in Iowa’s statewide caucuses just a week away, colleges held simulations of the events across the state Monday night. NBC News campaign embed Ben Pu covered the Drake University mock caucus, and reported that after the first round, only Warren and former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg exceeded the 15 percent viability threshold.

“!!! Only Buttigieg and Warren are viable. Supporters are being peeled away from the other groups,” Pu wrote.

NBC News’ Maura Barrett, one of apparently a zillion or so reporters at this event, reported that Sanders got 21 votes in the first round, and was dwarfed by Warren at 73 and Mayor Pete at 47.


https://www.mediaite.com/news/bernie-sanders-fans-leave-iowa-colleges-mock-caucus-in-protest-as-he-gets-trounced-by-elizabeth-warren/

EDIT: My apologies; I notice after the fact that highplainsdem had posted this story as well. I did not scroll down far enough in my search to make sure I wasn't duplicating. Just wanted to give a positive boost to Warren and Mayor Pete supporters who may have been feeling discouraged by recent polling.
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Bernie Fans Leave Iowa College's Mock Caucus in Protest As he Gets Trounced by Warren (Original Post) bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 OP
What exactly are the protesting against? NurseJackie Jan 2020 #1
Reality? George II Jan 2020 #2
I think you're correct. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #3
Hahahaha! Yes! Reality! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #14
That would be my guess. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #19
... mcar Jan 2020 #43
Apparently relayerbob Jan 2020 #47
Seems like it. ehrnst Jan 2020 #56
I saw this squirecam Jan 2020 #4
Maybe it's practice for the nasty caucus routine? R B Garr Jan 2020 #15
The bullying and intimidation that goes on with "certain" caucus-goers is disgusting!!!! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #21
This is why I hated caucuses and am so glad my state finally switched to primaries. n/t pnwmom Jan 2020 #52
Amen! Totally agreed. It almost does look R B Garr Jan 2020 #57
LOSING. Cha Jan 2020 #38
Well... they need to start getting used to that, in my estimation. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #45
Hopefully.. this is just warm up. Cha Jan 2020 #49
Their tears can be added to our BLUE WAVE!! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #51
Democracy? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2020 #42
I think "pouting" might be the better word. Not "protesting". NurseJackie Jan 2020 #46
They don't know. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #61
That sounds familiar Hav Jan 2020 #5
That's weird. I mean it's a university, full of young people. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6
It's interesting. I would be pleased if this result actually coes to fruition in real life. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #9
Well, I'd certainly prefer Warren to Sanders. MineralMan Jan 2020 #12
Maybe they actually all liked Warren better? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #16
And my wishful thinking theory is that all the bernie supporters were Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #18
Well, with that youthful group of attendees, I would have expected MineralMan Jan 2020 #20
The daunting part will be if he loses the nomination. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #24
Yes, I'm sure that will be difficult for you. MineralMan Jan 2020 #32
Not too bad. Not as bad as it would be for a lot of other folks if Bernie gets it. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #34
Right squirecam Jan 2020 #30
This is a reasonable theory, for sure. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #33
Sounds like a very good sign for our republic and our party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #35
Academics. Warren has the educated. That is why Sanders is calling her an elitist. Bananaluver Jan 2020 #39
Not academics. College kids. They're supposed to be Sanders' main supporters. MineralMan Jan 2020 #40
Sanders has the uneducated demographic. Warren has the educated. Bananaluver Jan 2020 #41
The point that you make is what Bernie supporters here and other places keep Blue_true Jan 2020 #62
A foreshadowing of things to come. Again. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #8
whatever gets you through the night NJCher Jan 2020 #54
What are they protesting? RandySF Jan 2020 #10
Why do they hate our freedoms? Scurrilous Jan 2020 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #13
So realistic! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #25
Their behavior. But whatever. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #27
The mass of hipsters certainly simulated a surge. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #31
Eight. progressoid Jan 2020 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #50
Well, that must have been awkward. Politicub Jan 2020 #17
Oops!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #22
I thought that he was the guy was going to gin up the youth vote Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #26
Not so much. Not all youth are malcontents who hate the party... apparently. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #28
And by protesting they mean TheFarseer Jan 2020 #29
You're right. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #37
Hopefully they didn't walk out with tape over their mouths. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #64
But, isn't that childish? nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #63
I think over 50% of Iowans have yet to make an initial decision IndyOp Jan 2020 #36
Sanders needs to come out relayerbob Jan 2020 #48
My fear is... 40RatRod Jan 2020 #53
it's perfectly obvious what happened here NJCher Jan 2020 #55
Whoo pricey tuition there! David__77 Jan 2020 #58
Warren getting some serious play. That should rattle certain folks. oasis Jan 2020 #59
NO! NO! NO! Bernie is surging, young people can't wait to vote for him. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #60
been saying for a while i think ew is going to surprise in ia. mopinko Jan 2020 #65
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. What exactly are the protesting against?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jan 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. I think you're correct.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jan 2020

Sad.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
7. Hahahaha! Yes! Reality!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jan 2020

And GREAT for Elizabeth and Pete! Good for them!

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sheshe2

(83,968 posts)
19. That would be my guess.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
4. I saw this
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jan 2020

It was only a mock caucus. They should Chill out.

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R B Garr

(16,998 posts)
15. Maybe it's practice for the nasty caucus routine?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jan 2020

It is a weird display.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. The bullying and intimidation that goes on with "certain" caucus-goers is disgusting!!!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

The bullying and intimidation that goes on with "certain" caucus-goers is disgusting!!!! It just goes to show how unfair and undemocratic the process is when individuals are denied a secret ballot and when a candidate's more aggressive and hostile supporters can use intimidation to garner "support" him (or her, yeah whatever).

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pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
52. This is why I hated caucuses and am so glad my state finally switched to primaries. n/t
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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R B Garr

(16,998 posts)
57. Amen! Totally agreed. It almost does look
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020

like they are being directed to act out like this. Or maybe those were the drama students, lol. Throwing a tantrum because Warren won, so immature.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. Well... they need to start getting used to that, in my estimation.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,824 posts)
49. Hopefully.. this is just warm up.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
51. Their tears can be added to our BLUE WAVE!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jan 2020

This is exactly how Sarandon was behaving. God, I hate that woman! She's such an idiot.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
46. I think "pouting" might be the better word. Not "protesting".
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jan 2020

Ugh.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
61. They don't know. nt
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. That sounds familiar
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jan 2020

and isn't that surprising.

To be serious though, from the story it just sounds that they didn't bother about giving their support to an alternative. Maybe I've missed the protest part.

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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
6. That's weird. I mean it's a university, full of young people.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jan 2020

How is it that they didn't overwhelmingly vote for Bernie Sanders?

Hmm...that doesn't make any sense. Or does it?

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
9. It's interesting. I would be pleased if this result actually coes to fruition in real life.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

Warren winning, I mean.

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Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
12. Well, I'd certainly prefer Warren to Sanders.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jan 2020

That much is certain.

But, what's your theory about why that university in Iowa didn't even have enough votes for Sanders to make him viable in their mock caucus? That seems very puzzling to me, somehow.

It's just, you know, odd...

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
16. Maybe they actually all liked Warren better?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jan 2020

Besides that, I have no idea...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
18. And my wishful thinking theory is that all the bernie supporters were
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

actually out knocking on doors.

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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
20. Well, with that youthful group of attendees, I would have expected
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jan 2020

a different result. That must be a little daunting, really. I mean, if you're a Sanders fan.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
24. The daunting part will be if he loses the nomination.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jan 2020

We still have a long way until that's decided, IMHO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
32. Yes, I'm sure that will be difficult for you.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

Gird your loins.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
34. Not too bad. Not as bad as it would be for a lot of other folks if Bernie gets it.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jan 2020

I actually really like every other candidate(sans maybe bloomberg and meh on klobchar). That isn't the case for many of the non-Bernie folks. It will be harder to digest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
30. Right
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020

They may already know the rules and thus didn’t need to attend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
33. This is a reasonable theory, for sure.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

Who knows?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
35. Sounds like a very good sign for our republic and our party.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bananaluver

(83 posts)
39. Academics. Warren has the educated. That is why Sanders is calling her an elitist.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
40. Not academics. College kids. They're supposed to be Sanders' main supporters.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe they're not, really, at least in conservative Iowa. I know nothing about Drake University in Des Moines, where this mock caucus took place. Who are the students. It's a private, small college. Probably most of the kids are white, with Republican parents. I don't know, though.

They're not Bernie fans, though, apparently. Like I said...odd...

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
62. The point that you make is what Bernie supporters here and other places keep
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jan 2020

claiming. Their claim is that the young vote is a leadpipe cinch for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. A foreshadowing of things to come. Again.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,776 posts)
54. whatever gets you through the night
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jan 2020

eom

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(59,465 posts)
10. What are they protesting?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

They understand math, right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
11. Why do they hate our freedoms?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bullwinkle428 (Original post)

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #23)

 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
27. Their behavior. But whatever.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

Considering the venue, I'm not surprised at either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. The mass of hipsters certainly simulated a surge.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(50,001 posts)
44. Eight.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jan 2020


The numbers from the first alignment:

Bennet 0
Biden 8
Bloomberg 8
Buttigieg 47
Delaney 1
Gabbard 1
Klobuchar 11
Patrick 0
Sanders 21
Steyer 7
Warren 73
Yang 16
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. Well, that must have been awkward.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

Warren has been (quietly) investing in the grass roots for more than a year. Buttigieg used his early funding to build out his campaign apparatus across Iowa.

Beyond advertising and hiring questionable staffers, I'm not sure what else Sanders is doing with his money. He has a passionate following, but so does the Grateful Dead. Passion without direction is quite useless.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jose Garcia

(2,609 posts)
26. I thought that he was the guy was going to gin up the youth vote
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. Not so much. Not all youth are malcontents who hate the party... apparently.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

Thankfully.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheFarseer

(9,326 posts)
29. And by protesting they mean
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

The Sanders supporters didn’t stay to caucus for their second choice?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
37. You're right.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jan 2020

It's not protesting. It's sulking.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
64. Hopefully they didn't walk out with tape over their mouths. nt
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
63. But, isn't that childish? nt
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IndyOp

(15,535 posts)
36. I think over 50% of Iowans have yet to make an initial decision
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jan 2020

about who they'll support. If that's true then they will most likely be open to considering other candidates if the first name floated in the caucus was their initial pick and that person doesn't catch on during a discussion.

In other words - IT'S A TOSS UP IN IOWA!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,561 posts)
48. Sanders needs to come out
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jan 2020

and tell these people to grow and quit acting like that. If he can't even lead his own followers, how does he expect to win and lead a nation?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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40RatRod

(532 posts)
53. My fear is...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jan 2020

...when all is said and done and it is time to vote for our next president, those who are deeply disappointed their preferred candidate lost, they will take their marbles and go home and not vote. I think that happened in the last election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NJCher

(35,776 posts)
55. it's perfectly obvious what happened here
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jan 2020

the sample is too small to make any projections:

NBC News’ Maura Barrett, one of apparently a zillion or so reporters at this event, reported that Sanders got 21 votes in the first round, and was dwarfed by Warren at 73 and Mayor Pete at 47.

And the college is atypical.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,431 posts)
59. Warren getting some serious play. That should rattle certain folks.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. NO! NO! NO! Bernie is surging, young people can't wait to vote for him. nt
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mopinko

(70,273 posts)
65. been saying for a while i think ew is going to surprise in ia.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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