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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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This campaign is not just about me. It's about us. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jan 2020 OP
Will it still be about "us" when he doesn't get the nomination? MH1 Jan 2020 #1
He campaigned in 4 times more cities in 2016 than his 2016 opponent did for the nominee Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3
LOL, his "bros" did not think so. Not the ones I met in real life anyway. MH1 Jan 2020 #4
Anecdotal evidence is not exactly relevant to the overall decisions of Bernie. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #5
No he didn't. Not at all. Clinton took a day or two off in 2008 and then joined Obama... George II Jan 2020 #8
. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #10
That's Obama talking about Clinton's campaign in 2016 vs. his own in 2008, not.... George II Jan 2020 #12
It is evidence that Bernie supporters are not the only ones that think Clinton could have worked Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #13
. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #11
That proved part of my point - in the course of half-heartedly campaigning for Clinton.... George II Jan 2020 #15
What? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #17
Sanders did 39 events on Clintons behalf booley Jan 2020 #18
Thanks for the post, Uncle Joe!!! Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #2
It's a great applause line, and kudos to the effective career politician from VT for using it. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #6
Right!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #7
Sanders can stay in as long as he wants booley Jan 2020 #19
What a great ad! StrictlyRockers Jan 2020 #9
Bernie conducted 35 rallies for Hillary during the General Election ritapria Jan 2020 #14
Not me (the individual), us (the collective). denem Jan 2020 #16
Not Me (Sanders), US (the people) booley Jan 2020 #22
No Bernie, its ALL about U. Stop dividing Dems by calling it quits and retire from politics. onetexan Jan 2020 #20
I was thinking the same thing about Biden booley Jan 2020 #23
Biden is only a year younger than BS but alot healthier and has a WHOLE LOTTA SUPPORT onetexan Jan 2020 #24
small donations and rallies say differently booley Jan 2020 #25
You're entitled to believe all the nonsense the BS camp has been putting out. Good luck with that. onetexan Jan 2020 #26
Translation: It's about me scheming daemons Jan 2020 #21
Yup. Squinch Jan 2020 #27
Another Dem might have said, "It's not about me ..." Beakybird Jan 2020 #28
 

MH1

(17,608 posts)
1. Will it still be about "us" when he doesn't get the nomination?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jan 2020

Or will it be about how "the DNC cheated!" ?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
3. He campaigned in 4 times more cities in 2016 than his 2016 opponent did for the nominee
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

in 2008. He has made it clear it is always about us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MH1

(17,608 posts)
4. LOL, his "bros" did not think so. Not the ones I met in real life anyway.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jan 2020

It was not about "us" then. It was about "Waaaah ... the DNC cheated!!!" and "I could never vote for that < insert slur from Bernie campaign's rhetoric >".

If it is different this time, GREAT !!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
5. Anecdotal evidence is not exactly relevant to the overall decisions of Bernie.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

Or what actually happened on a broad scale.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. No he didn't. Not at all. Clinton took a day or two off in 2008 and then joined Obama...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jan 2020

...on his bus tour, and then campaigned tirelessly until Election Day.

Sanders left the convention in late July (before it even adjourned) and made his first campaign appearance on Labor Day in September, six weeks later.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. That's Obama talking about Clinton's campaign in 2016 vs. his own in 2008, not....
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

....Sanders vs. Clinton campaign efforts in 2016/2008. Is that not what was being discussed?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
13. It is evidence that Bernie supporters are not the only ones that think Clinton could have worked
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

harder. And blaming Sanders for her loss is irresponsible and ridiculous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. That proved part of my point - in the course of half-heartedly campaigning for Clinton....
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jan 2020

....he couldn't resist touting his own horn and taking shots at Clinton. For example:

"I know I put her in a difficult position—2016, to believe in science, a little bit dangerous—but what the heck.”


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
17. What?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020

It's just confusing to me that folks can't seem to wrap their head around the idea that maybe a candidate lost to the most dangerous demogogue in the history of this country because of things other than a scapegoat.


If Bernie wins the nomination and loses the general election, I will say it was because of things HE did, not what Joe Biden, or Elizabeth Warren did. It would be ridiculous to do otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
18. Sanders did 39 events on Clintons behalf
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders did at least 39 events on Clinton's behalf in 2016

Clinton did 12 on Obama's behalf in 2008

We might have very different definitions of tirelessly

Anyway, we don't have to take my word for it

I can't time stamp a video here so people can instead go to 11:09 and hear it from Rachel Maddow


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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
2. Thanks for the post, Uncle Joe!!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

Kicked and rec'd!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. It's a great applause line, and kudos to the effective career politician from VT for using it.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

As he states, IA is indeed, Bernie's to win. Or lose.

Should he fail to place a commanding first though, I think it could signal the beginning of the end of his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,813 posts)
7. Right!!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020

Total delegate take posted yesterday on DU for the first 4 states is Biden 56+, sanders 50+
The following states sweeping across the south is going to pretty much end it for sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
19. Sanders can stay in as long as he wants
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jan 2020

He has raised enough that he won't run out anytime soon.

IA is important, no doubt. But it's also probably a bigger concern for Biden. Biden's is selling himself as the only one who can win against trump. Not only do the polls not support that but if Biden can't win Iowa, people are going to start to wonder why Biden thinks he can win against trump,

When Biden began he was what? Double digits ahead of everybody else?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
9. What a great ad!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

I can't wait until he wins the nomination.

Then, you can expect me to be here every day saying, "Vote blue no matter who!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
14. Bernie conducted 35 rallies for Hillary during the General Election
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

In NH, American Research Group - a NH based poling organization- has just released the following results : Bernie 28% ...Biden 13% ...Buttigieg 12 % ...Warren 11% ...Gabbard 8% ……. Klobuchar 7% … Yang 5 % ….

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. Not me (the individual), us (the collective).
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
22. Not Me (Sanders), US (the people)
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jan 2020

Not sure where you got your interpretation

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,072 posts)
20. No Bernie, its ALL about U. Stop dividing Dems by calling it quits and retire from politics.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
23. I was thinking the same thing about Biden
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jan 2020

But each candidate does have the right to run and can keep running as long as they have support.

Sanders has a lot of support of everyday people behind him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,072 posts)
24. Biden is only a year younger than BS but alot healthier and has a WHOLE LOTTA SUPPORT
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jan 2020

behind him. Just check the polls. Whose been remaining on top the past few months?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
25. small donations and rallies say differently
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jan 2020

Almost 2 million people donate to Sanders. Ends up we can distinguish individual donations from how many people donated. (so don't' do that "random person donated more than once" thing please)

And those poll numbers keep going down for Biden. They can only go up for Sanders.

Didn't mention age or Health. Biden did have a brain aneurism once if you want to discuss health. Ande Biden's new tendency to ramble incoherently. But as it wasn't what I was originally talking about it would be a change of subject. Perhaps start a new thread.

I have no doubt Biden has lots of support. I just don't think it's all from .. lots of people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,072 posts)
26. You're entitled to believe all the nonsense the BS camp has been putting out. Good luck with that.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
21. Translation: It's about me
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
28. Another Dem might have said, "It's not about me ..."
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jan 2020

Only Bernie would say, "It's not just about me."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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