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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:28 AM Feb 2020

Who is the strongest presidential ticket?

Please add your own ideas as the poll is limited. Each one can be interchangable. I am just wondering which pair you think will be the strongest.


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Biden/Klobuchar
27 (47%)
Sanders/Klobuchar
1 (2%)
Biden/Yang
0 (0%)
Biden/Bloomberg
0 (0%)
Biden/Steyer
0 (0%)
Sanders/Warren
13 (22%)
Steyer/Sanders
0 (0%)
Bloomberg/Sanders
0 (0%)
Warren/Bloomberg
0 (0%)
Something else (Please state below).
17 (29%)
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Who is the strongest presidential ticket? (Original Post) Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 OP
Biden/Harris RandySF Feb 2020 #1
+1, people are so not getting this. The democratic base needs to every incentive to come out & vote uponit7771 Feb 2020 #25
She didn't have support running for President for whatever reason jimfields33 Feb 2020 #59
Tired of hearing that... they are not the base if they don't come out for any nominee. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #84
absolutely the very best beachbumbob Feb 2020 #31
This was my dream ticket a week ago. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #35
+ 100,000 greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #38
Or Biden/Stacey Abrams In It to Win It Feb 2020 #41
+1 BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #65
People don't understand the pull Abrams has this would be a statement uponit7771 Feb 2020 #66
Agree. Biden-Harris. EOM TruckFump Feb 2020 #55
Pete Buttigieg/Stacey Abrams n/t FreeState Feb 2020 #2
Pete/Kamala radical noodle Feb 2020 #4
Biden- Bennet underthematrix Feb 2020 #3
I really like Bennet Control-Z Feb 2020 #23
In the moderate lane, I think he'll be on everyone's short list underthematrix Feb 2020 #64
Warren/Klobuchar pattyloutwo Feb 2020 #5
THIS!!! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #19
✔️✔️✔️ blm Feb 2020 #51
Love your name. My nieces call me Aunt Patty Watty. patricia92243 Feb 2020 #62
This would be bold uponit7771 Feb 2020 #67
Klobuchar/Abrams judeling Feb 2020 #6
Absolutely! or maybe nevergiveup Feb 2020 #8
Well she does have some staff from his campaign judeling Feb 2020 #22
Bloomberg/Harris Biden SOS aeromanKC Feb 2020 #7
+10000000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #17
Agree. Bloomberg/Harris is a winning ticket. stopbush Feb 2020 #18
Sanders/Abrams? Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #9
I'd love to see that. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #12
I still really like Harris. Laffy Kat Feb 2020 #10
I'd like to see Stacey Abrams in the VP slot. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #11
Sanders/Bloomberg Dream Ticket dinnocenzo25 Feb 2020 #13
Joe Biden/Stacey Abrams n/t chillfactor Feb 2020 #14
Warren/Castro nt More_Cowbell Feb 2020 #15
Also a possibility for me. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #21
I'd love that one Bettie Feb 2020 #90
Good thread! Here are my thoughts mvd Feb 2020 #16
If Sanders is the nominee, I don't see Sanders picking Klobuchar. In It to Win It Feb 2020 #44
Yeah, not sure how it would work when.. mvd Feb 2020 #71
Of the candidates still in the Presidential primaries, BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #20
re: "Warren will not run as Veep on anyone's ticket." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #74
Biden/Harris. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #24
You pretty much took the words out of my mouth. PunkinPi Feb 2020 #27
Stacey Abrams or Kamala Harris HAVE TO BE ON THE TICKET underpants Feb 2020 #26
I haven't stopped thinking about Stacey Abrams since 2018 In It to Win It Feb 2020 #46
Bloomberg/Klobuchar forthemiddle Feb 2020 #28
That's a good one!! Mike 03 Feb 2020 #34
I've been coming around to a Klobuchar/Bloomberg or Bloomberg/Klobuchar ticket lkinwi Feb 2020 #37
+1 TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #39
Agree crazylikafox Feb 2020 #43
Yep, that's the ticket trocar Feb 2020 #57
any running candidate minus Bloomberg/Stacey Abrams rainy Feb 2020 #29
Biden Sanders , Sanders Biden Prosper Feb 2020 #30
To listen to some pundits... PJMcK Feb 2020 #32
Last night I was thinking about a ticket. I know it sounds crazy but: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #33
Klobuchar/Harris DesertRat Feb 2020 #36
Bloomberg/Steyer n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #40
Biden/A Clone of Joe Biden Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #42
Buttigieg/Abrams MBS Feb 2020 #45
Bloomberg/Michelle Obama Celerity Feb 2020 #47
Holy sh#t that's a good one! Mike 03 Feb 2020 #50
Now go register this website: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #52
Oh hell to the yes! Forget my response below.. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #61
Bloomberg/Michelle is the ultimate 'rub trumps face in it' ticket. denem Feb 2020 #78
Oh yes! denem Feb 2020 #77
lol Celerity Feb 2020 #79
My starting point was .... now which combination would REALLY mess with trumps head denem Feb 2020 #80
he would go insane, he couldn't handle it, as Barack would be REALLY out there hard too Celerity Feb 2020 #81
An all time favorite Ann Telnaes cartoon denem Feb 2020 #82
not a good place to give daughter wife a jackhammer Celerity Feb 2020 #83
Yeeeek denem Feb 2020 #85
I still cannot wrap my head around the fact these assclown criminal trash are the First Family Celerity Feb 2020 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #89
No matter who the nominee is, the nominee can't pick a sitting Democratic senator as a running mate In It to Win It Feb 2020 #48
Wow. I never even thought bamagal62 Feb 2020 #49
Sanders/Gabbard or Sanders/Yang Devil Child Feb 2020 #53
See Response 47. You're looking at an historic LANDSLIDE. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #54
Klobuchar/Bloomberg importDavid Feb 2020 #56
Bloomberg/Warren ibeplato Feb 2020 #58
Buttigieg/Yang. -nt Amimnoch Feb 2020 #60
Strongest ticket rso Feb 2020 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #69
Sanders/Harris n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #70
Sanders/Castro. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #72
How bout this? LaelthsDaughter Feb 2020 #73
Bloomberg/Abrams patricia92243 Feb 2020 #75
Bloomberg / Michelle Obama denem Feb 2020 #76
All the "Sanders" options are anemic and not polling very well. Interesting. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #86
Bloomberg Klobuchar. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #87
Why is there always the constant assumption customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #91
 

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
25. +1, people are so not getting this. The democratic base needs to every incentive to come out & vote
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:23 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimfields33

(16,115 posts)
59. She didn't have support running for President for whatever reason
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:27 AM
Feb 2020

I liked her but for some reason her support was thin. We need a strong VP candidate who gets out the vote and that’s Amy!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
84. Tired of hearing that... they are not the base if they don't come out for any nominee.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020

We need to to win without them...if they only support their chosen candidate in a general because mostly the candidates they are head over heels for won't win the election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
31. absolutely the very best
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:29 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
35. This was my dream ticket a week ago.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:56 AM
Feb 2020

I'm actually supporting Warren but expected Biden would take the lead on Super Tuesday. Our primary here in AZ is after ST, thus my "Undecided" status.

But recent events have me more concerned about Joe's situation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

In It to Win It

(8,308 posts)
41. Or Biden/Stacey Abrams
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:47 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
66. People don't understand the pull Abrams has this would be a statement
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:26 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
55. Agree. Biden-Harris. EOM
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FreeState

(10,588 posts)
2. Pete Buttigieg/Stacey Abrams n/t
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:33 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radical noodle

(8,017 posts)
4. Pete/Kamala
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:39 AM
Feb 2020

But I like Pete/Stacey too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
3. Biden- Bennet
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:37 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg Bennet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
23. I really like Bennet
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:16 AM
Feb 2020

a lot, actually. But I have never considered him to be a viable candidate. Sadly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
64. In the moderate lane, I think he'll be on everyone's short list
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

He's got swag and legacy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,132 posts)
51. ✔️✔️✔️
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

patricia92243

(12,607 posts)
62. Love your name. My nieces call me Aunt Patty Watty.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:37 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
6. Klobuchar/Abrams
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:45 AM
Feb 2020

By a mile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nevergiveup

(4,772 posts)
8. Absolutely! or maybe
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:59 AM
Feb 2020

Amy Klobuchar/Andrew Gillum

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
22. Well she does have some staff from his campaign
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:02 AM
Feb 2020

But going Big with Two women. Would be electrifying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aeromanKC

(3,331 posts)
7. Bloomberg/Harris Biden SOS
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:45 AM
Feb 2020

Win/Win/Win

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
17. +10000000
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:41 AM
Feb 2020

Completely Agree

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopbush

(24,398 posts)
18. Agree. Bloomberg/Harris is a winning ticket.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laffy Kat

(16,393 posts)
10. I still really like Harris.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:05 AM
Feb 2020

I sure hope she's on the ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,604 posts)
11. I'd like to see Stacey Abrams in the VP slot.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020

She's awesome.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dinnocenzo25

(8 posts)
13. Sanders/Bloomberg Dream Ticket
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

chillfactor

(7,588 posts)
14. Joe Biden/Stacey Abrams n/t
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:14 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
21. Also a possibility for me. eom
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:36 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bettie

(16,147 posts)
90. I'd love that one
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

seriously would be great.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mvd

(65,186 posts)
16. Good thread! Here are my thoughts
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020

Biden/Klobuchar - it is ok but too moderate for me personally

Sanders/Klobuchar - well, Bernie should choose a younger woman if not Warren

Biden/Yang - might help Biden with the youth vote

Biden/Bloomberg - Biden should choose a woman and not someone so conservative. Bloomberg is more conservative than Biden is

Biden/Steyer - not sure this is a good mix

Sanders/Warren - my personal preference! Or Warren/Sanders

Steyer/Sanders - I like Steyer and Sanders, so not bad

Bloomberg/Sanders - huge clash, would not happen

Warren/Bloomberg - again a huge clash that would not happen

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

In It to Win It

(8,308 posts)
44. If Sanders is the nominee, I don't see Sanders picking Klobuchar.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mvd

(65,186 posts)
71. Yeah, not sure how it would work when..
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020

Klobuchar is asked to defend Sanders on health care and other things. But if the polling says a balanced ticket would do better, she is an option.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
20. Of the candidates still in the Presidential primaries,
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:34 AM
Feb 2020

I believe that Warren/Klobuchar is the best ticket.

Possibly even a Warren/Yang ticket.

Warren will not run as Veep on anyone's ticket.

If we're considering people not still in the primaries, I would love to see

Warren/Harris or

Warren/Booker or

Warren/Abrams

Warren/another great candidate (there are MANY possibilities)

I would favor Warren/Abrams or Warren/another great candidate over a ticket with two current Senators, however. We NEED good Senators.

But Warren IS and WILL REMAIN #1 for me.

Period. No matter how many of these polls get posted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(12,000 posts)
74. re: "Warren will not run as Veep on anyone's ticket."
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
Feb 2020

You think she'd turn Bernie down if he asked?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
24. Biden/Harris.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:23 AM
Feb 2020

I don’t want Biden, but realize he is probably going to be the nominee.

I want Harris on the ticket. I’ve been uninspired by most since she dropped out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PunkinPi

(4,882 posts)
27. You pretty much took the words out of my mouth.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:35 AM
Feb 2020

If Biden falters more and Bloomberg rises, I hope he'd consider Harris for VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(183,014 posts)
26. Stacey Abrams or Kamala Harris HAVE TO BE ON THE TICKET
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:25 AM
Feb 2020

.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

In It to Win It

(8,308 posts)
46. I haven't stopped thinking about Stacey Abrams since 2018
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:52 AM
Feb 2020

She captured me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

forthemiddle

(1,383 posts)
28. Bloomberg/Klobuchar
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:11 AM
Feb 2020

In the past week I have changed from Biden/Klobuchar to Bloomberg.

I still think that Amy on the ticket will be a huge plus in the Midwest, and I wish she could lead the ticket, but I'll wait 8 years until she runs again as the VP!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
34. That's a good one!!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:46 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
37. I've been coming around to a Klobuchar/Bloomberg or Bloomberg/Klobuchar ticket
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazylikafox

(2,763 posts)
43. Agree
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

Not my first choice for policy reasons, but starting to look best for a winning ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trocar

(244 posts)
57. Yep, that's the ticket
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rainy

(6,096 posts)
29. any running candidate minus Bloomberg/Stacey Abrams
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:12 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
30. Biden Sanders , Sanders Biden
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:21 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PJMcK

(22,069 posts)
32. To listen to some pundits...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:43 AM
Feb 2020

...the strongest ticket is Trump/Pence!

Don't worry, I always vote straight Democratic and will support whichever of our fine candidates comes out on top.

To be clear, your OP question did not specify a party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
33. Last night I was thinking about a ticket. I know it sounds crazy but:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:45 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg/Buttigieg or maybe Bloomberg/Harris

The positive about Bloomberg/Buttigieg is that we don't lose a great senator.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
42. Biden/A Clone of Joe Biden
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

Obviously.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(43,741 posts)
47. Bloomberg/Michelle Obama
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:54 AM
Feb 2020

You want the strongest possible, there it is. Biden just recently said he wanted her as his VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
50. Holy sh#t that's a good one!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:09 AM
Feb 2020


Sheer Genius!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
52. Now go register this website:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020

BloombergObama2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
61. Oh hell to the yes! Forget my response below..
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:30 AM
Feb 2020

This one beats my idea hands down.

That would be one incredible ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
78. Bloomberg/Michelle is the ultimate 'rub trumps face in it' ticket.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

A. reminder of everything he can never be !

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
80. My starting point was .... now which combination would REALLY mess with trumps head
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:37 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,741 posts)
81. he would go insane, he couldn't handle it, as Barack would be REALLY out there hard too
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

I think he might snap and go into a full racist thug rant on national telly.

The way to treat these fuckers is with ridicule and disdain. Bloomberg would look him in the eye and call him out as a fake billionaire, a fraud, and a grifter. A petty little embezzler who has to skim off the country's till like a two-bit gangster in one of his shitty. failed, bankrupt casinos.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
82. An all time favorite Ann Telnaes cartoon
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020


There's a line from a Lou Reed song that comes to mind when I think of the trumps -

You'd eat shit, and say it tasted good,
If there was some money in if for you
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,741 posts)
83. not a good place to give daughter wife a jackhammer
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,741 posts)
88. I still cannot wrap my head around the fact these assclown criminal trash are the First Family
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020
A Taxonomy of the Ass-Clown: On Donald Trump

https://lithub.com/a-taxonomy-of-the-ass-clown-on-donald-trump/



Men who chase women are often intensely interested in How to Attract Hot Chicks. One tip, which some women themselves give, is to keep ’em guessing, to stay mysterious, then to be funny, then a little too cocky, and then nice, but not too nice. Most important, don’t let her pin you down, feel like she’s got your type (“he’s a player,” “nerdy guy,” “all he does is work”), since once she’s got you figured, she may decide she’s not interested in finding out a little more about you (e.g., on a date or in a further text).

The pickup artist risks looking too practiced. Then there’s no special compliment to a woman in the fact that he’s approached her. And maybe he’s too easily categorized: he only wants quick sex, which he’s used to getting, when she’d prefer a three-date courtship. If he’s too “smooth,” way too good at this, she’ll have discerned his type and may lose interest. There’s thus a certain advantage to being scrappy, being unpolished and not too practiced, as long as one is also funny and not too unkempt or completely broke. The scrappy guy, like the underdog, arouses our compassion and seems innocent or even likable, although often oblivious.

The pickup artist hustles for fun or sex, of course, but also for the way he feels about himself if a woman shows interest. His worth is affirmed in the eyes of the woman (perhaps whether or not he respects her beyond the adoration she gives him). Knowing how other men and women might think of him if they knew this—if they were seen together in public, for instance—his sense of self- worth is boosted or swollen.

Like any politician, Donald Trump’s quarry is the electorate, and he at least wants pretty much what Men Who Chase Hot Chicks want: to affirm his worth by being seen as powerful, the center of attention, as the man whose favor must be curried, so as to uphold his vision of himself as “great,” a “winner,” a “huge success.” He’s lucky not to have the smooth tactics of the pickup artist, since in an electorate used to The Rubio (slick, bogus, likable, but without substance), voters will take to a scrappy effort and forgive the rest, if they can find sufficient reason to keep up their interest. And Trump does effortlessly keep up people’s interest, by keeping ’em guessing, shocked, self-doubting, and amused.

It is tough being an asshole in ordinary life. Success in the eld takes considerable skill and social intelligence. The effective asshole often learns to work the gray areas of cooperation. If people feel disrespected and pipe up about it, perhaps they can’t quite pin down their objection, and with the asshole resistant to any open conversation about why his conduct was, or was not, acceptable, he fends off the challenge, proving to himself, yet again, that he has no compelling reason to listen. This is difficult to do reliably without being completely isolated. So the successful asshole often has further methods. He’ll 1) keep ’em guessing and uncertain about his type; and 2) offer some redeeming quality, by being funny, or smart, or beautiful, or wealthy. The mistreated person then isn’t resolutely revolted and perhaps becomes willing to forgive, or at least quickly forget.

There is no “real Trump” beneath the appearances in part because he keeps us guessing in just this fashion, alternating freely between ways of presenting himself, sometimes very quickly, even in midsentence. This leaves us without a firm sense of his person and so unable to resolve our reaction to him. Unsettled and uncertain, we are destabilized; and he is better able to do pretty much as he likes.

snip


this was BEFORE he was even elected
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Celerity (Reply #88)

 

In It to Win It

(8,308 posts)
48. No matter who the nominee is, the nominee can't pick a sitting Democratic senator as a running mate
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:58 AM
Feb 2020

Can’t take any chances with special elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bamagal62

(3,275 posts)
49. Wow. I never even thought
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:08 AM
Feb 2020

About a Bloomberg/Michelle Obama ticket. That would be incredible. But she won’t do it, I bet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
53. Sanders/Gabbard or Sanders/Yang
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:15 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
54. See Response 47. You're looking at an historic LANDSLIDE.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:19 AM
Feb 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

importDavid

(219 posts)
56. Klobuchar/Bloomberg
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:24 AM
Feb 2020

She would make history
As VP he would be more or less free to maintain his current lifestyle

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ibeplato

(66 posts)
58. Bloomberg/Warren
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:58 AM
Feb 2020

I'd vote for that

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rso

(2,276 posts)
63. Strongest ticket
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg/Harris

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

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LaelthsDaughter

(150 posts)
73. How bout this?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

I think Buttigieg/Booker is a strong ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
76. Bloomberg / Michelle Obama
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
86. All the "Sanders" options are anemic and not polling very well. Interesting.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

I'm feeling hopeful and with luck this trend will continue for our STRONGEST candidates... the ones who are Democrats and not Socialists.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
91. Why is there always the constant assumption
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

that the VP pick will be an also-ran? It's only happened a few times in my lifetime (I'm 64), and only one of those times it worked out (Reagan-Bush). It didn't go so well for Kerry-Edwards.

The ticket will need to be balanced both by gender and by race, if we have a white male as the nominee, he'll need to pick Stacy Abrams or someone with similar stature. If by some miracle Elizabeth Warren is the nominee, she will probably pick Castro for the racial/gender balance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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