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64. No, that's really not it

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Wed Jul 4, 2018, 08:02 PM

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The Democrats who are coming out calling for the abolition of ICE this close to the midterms may be [View all] still_one Jul 2018 OP

No manor321 Jul 2018 #1

You obviously selectively read my OP, and ignored exactly what I said in the body of the OP still_one Jul 2018 #2

Perception is reality. We can put "abolish ice" on ice, for now. nt oasis Jul 2018 #10

I thought open borders was the whole point dumbcat Jul 2018 #3

If that's the message, B2G Jul 2018 #5

I believe that most Americans do NOT want a wall, nor do thet want seperation of families, still_one Jul 2018 #13

We agree completely. nt B2G Jul 2018 #14

"If that's the message, prepare to lose in November." LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #40

Then you believe that is a winning issue, campaigning for open borders. We will see still_one Jul 2018 #8

I thought this was about doing what's right dumbcat Jul 2018 #9

Who said open borders are right? That is your opinion. As for you logic about winning, perhpaps if still_one Jul 2018 #17

Matters of morality, and right and wrong dumbcat Jul 2018 #22

Open borders is NOT what I want as a Democrat. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #80

Can't control policy without first winning. Zoonart Jul 2018 #27

So, do whatever it takes to win dumbcat Jul 2018 #36

Yes. That's exactly it. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #53

This is a right-wing talking point, and should be reported to DU admins as such Tarc Jul 2018 #12

Absolutely right Tarc. Which is why those Democrats calling for getting rid of ICE need to make still_one Jul 2018 #20

Another misconception awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #35

If we're having this argument here, the larger voting population is not going to learn / know Calista241 Jul 2018 #71

republicans have taken compassionate and measured policies of Democrats and translated that to: George II Jul 2018 #44

No, no it isn't... Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #84

I agree with this genxlib Jul 2018 #4

1. See the post above yours, and B2G Jul 2018 #6

You articulated far better than I did genxlib. Well said still_one Jul 2018 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #7

4 Poach the eggs: Here is an easy method for poaching eggs. Essentially, working one egg at a uppityperson Jul 2018 #39

Thanks for the recipe! DesertRat Jul 2018 #48

You are welcome. Unfortunately uppityperson Jul 2018 #50

Big mistake Cartoonist Jul 2018 #11

ICE wouldn't be abolished anyway, or if it was it would be replaced by something else. Problem is still_one Jul 2018 #24

When you see pictures of kids being taken from parents, DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #15

And it is exactly what the GOP wants - to be able to say that Dems want "NO BORDER SECURITY" ehrnst Jul 2018 #77

You are trying to argue policy, "Abolish ICE" is messaging DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #81

You'd think repealing heathcare would have been a mine field for republicans.....it was not spanone Jul 2018 #16

Not only what you said .... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #42

Ice is not the problem. The ones giving it the orders are GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #18

of course you missed it because it was not being used intentionally as an abusive institution still_one Jul 2018 #25

That was my point GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #29

We are on the same page Gulf still_one Jul 2018 #33

You think? melman Jul 2018 #32

well gee, that is mighty tolerant of you to allow me to express my opinion, on a DEMOCRATIC forum still_one Jul 2018 #34

No thinking allowed, dontcha know. George II Jul 2018 #45

LOL still_one Jul 2018 #49

What? melman Jul 2018 #58

"Pontificate".. you're projecting. Cha Jul 2018 #56

No melman Jul 2018 #59

Yes, you are.. your point is being rude. Cha Jul 2018 #60

omg melman Jul 2018 #62

Yeah, you don't like it when someone calls you on it. Cha Jul 2018 #63

No, that's really not it melman Jul 2018 #64

Well, If you're going to pontificate about it perhaps you should share what you "REALLY" mean still_one Jul 2018 #65

I did melman Jul 2018 #70

Oh, melman. We know the history. betsuni Jul 2018 #75

Agreed. This is not a winning strategy. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #19

If we continue to sit down every time they scold us Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #23

The stupidity of our hard ass immigration policy is the problem. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #26

Those defending the establishment leaders GaryCnf Jul 2018 #28

In 1992, at the height of the party's mythical "great leap rightward".... George II Jul 2018 #61

You do remember GaryCnf Jul 2018 #85

At the time Democrats had one of the biggest combined majorities in history. It was almost.... George II Jul 2018 #86

In any event GaryCnf Jul 2018 #87

Another bogus slam on Bill Clinton R B Garr Jul 2018 #83

It's the wrong fight. We need to abolish the DHS. It's a massive boondoggle and costs a fortune. ucrdem Jul 2018 #30

ICE is a reactionary rightwing creation. yallerdawg Jul 2018 #31

Good post still_one, including all your responses. Ice has been militarized by its current leaders c-rational Jul 2018 #37

Disconnect Jake Stern Jul 2018 #38

Yeah that is a dumb slogan treestar Jul 2018 #41

I don't think it's constructive. That idea should be dropped until after November. THEN.... George II Jul 2018 #43

We do this and we won't have the House for long. Nt B2G Jul 2018 #47

You Are Right & Kamala Harris Agrees Me. Jul 2018 #46

That's what we should be calling for, a reorganization, not a ban. George II Jul 2018 #55

We did fine without MFM008 Jul 2018 #51

Yes, this is footshooting at its worst. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #52

It's fine in perfectly safe seats. joshcryer Jul 2018 #54

Some people would rather feel good about themselves Jakes Progress Jul 2018 #57

Among some there appears to be a cut your nose off to spite your face strategy still_one Jul 2018 #66

Among some there appears to be a cut your nose off to spite your face strategy still_one Jul 2018 #67

K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2018 #68

I will go with reorganization bdamomma Jul 2018 #69

Agree, the issue is most Americans support authority, radius777 Jul 2018 #72

You are right still_one Jul 2018 #73

Yep, great post! Alea Jul 2018 #74

I think "abolish ICE" means stop the Nazi junk. But agree that white wingers or too stupid to Hoyt Jul 2018 #76

I believe that it's like calling for Thomas to resign - NOW IS NOT THE TIME. ehrnst Jul 2018 #78

Even BLM doesn't call for abolishing traffic stops. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #79

Dems can never get it right, no matter what they do. kcr Jul 2018 #82