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121. Gretchen Whitmer for Governor of Michigan!

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:47 PM

Aug 2018

Link to tweet

Endorsements..

Progressive groups:

EMILY’s List
MI List
Michigan Association for Justice
Progressive Women’s Alliance
Sierra Club Michigan Chapter
Planned Parenthood Advocates of Michigan

Unions (representing more than 1 million Michigan workers):

the Michigan AFL-CIO;
the United Auto Workers;
the Michigan Education Association;
the Michigan Construction and Building Trades Council;
the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights;
the Michigan State Utility Workers Council;
the Michigan Pipe Trades Association;
the Michigan Joint Council of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union;
the Service Employees International Union
United Food and Commercial Workers Locals 876 and 951;
United Steelworkers;
Communications Workers of America District 4;
Iron Workers Local 25;
the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Joint Council #43;
the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades District Council 1M;
the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Michigan State Conference;
the Michigan Professional Fire Fighters Union;
AFSCME Council 25;
the Michigan Laborers District Council

Progressive leaders:

Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan
Former Governor Jim Blanchard
Wayne County Executive Warren Evans
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy
Wayne County Sheriff Benny Napoleon
Oakland County Treasurer Andy Meisner
Oakland County Water Resources Commissioner Jim Nash
Oakland County Commissioner Helaine Zack
Oakland County Commissioner Gary McGillivray
Macomb County Executive Mark Hackel
Macomb County Sheriff Anthony Wickersham
Macomb County Prosecutor Eric Smith
U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
U.S. Rep. Sander Levin (D-MI09) of Royal Oak
U.S. Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI05) of Flint Township
U.S. Rep. Brenda Lawrence (D-MI14) of Southfield
U.S. Rep Debbie Dingell (D-MI12) of Dearborn
Former Michigan Attorney General Frank J. Kelley
Lansing Mayor Andy Schor
Senate Democratic Leader Jim Ananich (Flint)
Democratic Senate Floor Leader Morris Hood III (Detroit)
Senator Steve Bieda (Warren)
Senator Hoon-Yung Hopgood (Taylor)
Senator Vincent Gregory (Lathrup Village)
Senator Curtis Hertel (East Lansing)
Senator Rebekah Warren (Ann Arbor)
Democratic House Leader Sam Singh (East Lansing)
Democratic House Floor Leader Christine Greig (Farmington Hills)
Representative Jeremy Moss (Southfield)
Representative Erika Geiss (Taylor)
Representative Fred Durhal (Detroit)
Representative Sherry Gay-Dagnogo (Detroit)
Representative Stephanie Chang (Detroit)
Representative Leslie Love (Detroit)
Representative Robert Kosowski (Westland)
Representative Kevin Hertel (St. Clair Shores)
Representative Kristy Pagan (Canton)
Representative Robert Wittenberg (Huntington Woods)
Representative Patrick Green (Warren)
Representative Tim Greimel (Auburn Hills)
Representative Pam Faris (Clio)
Representative Phil Phelps (Flint)
Representative Tim Sneller (Burton)
Representative Donna Lasinski (D-Scio Township)
Representative Ronnie Peterson (Ypsilanti)
Representative Jon Hoadley (Kalamazoo)
Representative Tom Cochran (Mason)
Representative David LaGrand (Grand Rapids)
Representative Winnie Brinks (Grand Rapids)
Representative Terry Sabo (Muskegon)
Representative Sara Cambensy (Marquette)
Representative Scott Dianda (Calumet)
Oak Park Mayor Marian McClellan

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MI-GOV: Ocasio-Cortez hoping for 25% turnout or lower [View all] RandySF Aug 2018 OP

Wow...Really? Me. Aug 2018 #1

This was exactly my reaction. Unbelievable. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #2

Low turnout in primaries is a historical and mathematical fact oberliner Aug 2018 #4

Actually, she is saying a lot more than that. R B Garr Aug 2018 #11

Sounds like she's saying the opposite -- that her candidate is more likely to win with low turnout. pnwmom Aug 2018 #77

Lol nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #118

Don't we usually give Democrats the benefit of the doubt? oberliner Aug 2018 #135

Democrats believe in the will of the people, Hortensis Aug 2018 #180

LOL RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #185

What an odd choice of words she used if that is what she intended to say. She managed Ninsianna Aug 2018 #208

Sounds like it. nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #7

Wonder what her backers think of this? She wants a lower turnout. brush Aug 2018 #9

Precisely Me. Aug 2018 #13

Some are right here on DU defending her. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #149

That isn't what she said. And she's explained it well before. She's said that candidates who JCanete Aug 2018 #14

Dear Me, Here I am Believing My Lying Eyes Me. Aug 2018 #20

She didnt' say at any point that the vote should be suppressed. Wehre did she say we should JCanete Aug 2018 #60

Thanks But I'll Take Her At Her Intention Me. Aug 2018 #68

You'll put words in her mouth that don't exist. Put up already. JCanete Aug 2018 #71

I'd Say Her Meaning Was Quite Clear Me. Aug 2018 #72

She unquestionably sees low representation as Hortensis Aug 2018 #182

Things Have Come To Such A Pass That Now Me. Aug 2018 #190

It always was by people who couldn't get elected Hortensis Aug 2018 #215

Okay, so what EXACTLY did she say? Apparently you heard/read something different. George II Aug 2018 #36

Hoping turnout is low due to excitement level for a candidate is not the same thing as advocating JCanete Aug 2018 #62

I'll try again, so what EXACTLY did she say? George II Aug 2018 #73

First, did she say that votes should be suppressed? Show me you're serious about this conversation JCanete Aug 2018 #75

I'll try again, so what EXACTLY did she say? George II Aug 2018 #92

I'll try again. Prove you are being sincere and accept that she did not say votes should be JCanete Aug 2018 #94

"Prove you are being sincere" ehrnst Aug 2018 #99

I dont' follow. Hope your laugh was cathartic though. nt JCanete Aug 2018 #103

It was, thanks. ehrnst Aug 2018 #123

Pretzel logic. honest.abe Aug 2018 #76

She is not advocating for low turnout and that shit doesn't even make sense...advocating to who, JCanete Aug 2018 #89

Wow.. that really clears thing up?!?! honest.abe Aug 2018 #119

She said that her candidate has a majority of votes AS LONG AS the majority of voters don't vote. pnwmom Aug 2018 #82

and is that the same thing as hoping that voter suppression occurs, or advocating for it? JCanete Aug 2018 #87

The OP didn't say she hoped or advocated for voter suppression, and neither do I. pnwmom Aug 2018 #93

I wasn't responding to the op. I was responding to Me. JCanete Aug 2018 #95

Your post 87 was responding to MY post 82. You and I were talking here. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #105

my original post had to do with Me's claim, correct? Everyting that came after, presumably JCanete Aug 2018 #107

That makes absolutely no sense. kcr Aug 2018 #125

what? your point makes no sense. If you excite the voters that you reach but if you can't JCanete Aug 2018 #143

They only go door to door? kcr Aug 2018 #146

No, she is not a Dem. lark Aug 2018 #42

Quite Me. Aug 2018 #45

She is literally a democrat. You don't get to decide which of us who are registered as democrats JCanete Aug 2018 #85

Thank you. whathehell Aug 2018 #171

I distinctly remember her saying she was a democratic socialist. brush Aug 2018 #184

What party did she run in? How is she registered? What's the point of trying to be cute? nt JCanete Aug 2018 #191

Trying to be cute? Are you kidding? We all just saw how the party was used... brush Aug 2018 #227

You don't get to decide what we as a party want, unilaterally. PLenty of us in the democratic party JCanete Aug 2018 #241

You don't get to decide either. And I still say they used AOC. brush Aug 2018 #242

It's not Democratic to want low turnout.. Cha Aug 2018 #116

And No One Forced Her To... Me. Aug 2018 #122

Right.. and Yet all kinds of Pretzel logic Cha Aug 2018 #126

Sweet! Gretchen Whitmer: I voted! Make sure you do too! Cha Aug 2018 #169

Wasn't that essentially how she won her primary? W_HAMILTON Aug 2018 #3

Yes, the turnout was tiny around 13% honest.abe Aug 2018 #5

She worked hard to get those votes and her opponent didn't work as hard oberliner Aug 2018 #10

It sounds like a GOP style tactic. honest.abe Aug 2018 #12

It sure does sound like that. GOP loves low voter turnout. R B Garr Aug 2018 #15

That's not entirely true. Voters in NY were expecting a primary in September.... George II Aug 2018 #24

That is something that needs to change. That's how Ted Cruz won his primary in 2012. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #31

that one was a new definition of low dsc Aug 2018 #115

It was 11%, and she got 6% of the vote of registered Democrats in the district. George II Aug 2018 #30

Thanks for the correction. honest.abe Aug 2018 #33

No problem - the turnout was about 27,000 in a district with 245,000 registered Democrats. George II Aug 2018 #34

Yes, in a low turnout primary - getting out your voters will have an enormous impact oberliner Aug 2018 #6

And just how do you get that pool to shrink? kcr Aug 2018 #21

Um, tell people not to get out and vote. Which is essentially what it seems she's doing. George II Aug 2018 #25

That's what I was getting at, yes. kcr Aug 2018 #136

Exactly. I guess she's looking at her own primary, where turnout was 11%. George II Aug 2018 #139

Yes. She was very aware of it back then, too, as I heard her on a talk show R B Garr Aug 2018 #8

Exactly, she got 6% of the votes of registered Democrats in her district. George II Aug 2018 #19

That's the way to sneak in. George II Aug 2018 #16

Now where have I heard that philosophy before? mcar Aug 2018 #17

That's one of the first rules of republican campaign strategy - suppress the vote. George II Aug 2018 #26

Yep mcar Aug 2018 #28

I am less and less impressed by Ocasio-Cortez every day. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #18

This is almost as troubling as the "crossover vote in the open primary" strategy. lapucelle Aug 2018 #22

Someone forgot to turn on the filter. kcr Aug 2018 #23

Her once shining star has really faded OKNancy Aug 2018 #27

She has yet to actively campaign against a republican, all of her campaigning efforts.... George II Aug 2018 #32

I imagine that will change once primary season is over. n/t theaocp Aug 2018 #35

cant wait to see that AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #37

I know of only two candidates who have been actively campaigning outside their district.... George II Aug 2018 #38

Okay. She must be one of them. theaocp Aug 2018 #40

All she's "attacked" (i.e., campaigned against) so far this year is Democrats, in her district..... George II Aug 2018 #44

Again, okay. So look forward to her attacks in the coming days. Cheers to that. n/t theaocp Aug 2018 #46

she's running a smart campaign. Talking about her republican opponent just gives him a platform bigtree Aug 2018 #98

She also endorsed Nixon over Cuomo in the Democratic state governor's primary. lapucelle Aug 2018 #133

it better qazplm135 Aug 2018 #59

No, but her guy gave the GOP plenty to smear Gretchen with in the general. Squinch Aug 2018 #51

OMG, it's a primary! theaocp Aug 2018 #80

Its a primary in 2018. And you still don't get that this is different from every other primary we Squinch Aug 2018 #83

I know. theaocp Aug 2018 #101

No, intelligent people understand that, unlike what you have just said, this is not like every Squinch Aug 2018 #110

Thanks for clarifying that you see me as unintelligent. theaocp Aug 2018 #112

El Sayed Accused Gretchen of "Money Laundering" and Cha Aug 2018 #100

Yea, I know. You've been on that tip for days now. theaocp Aug 2018 #106

Too bad you don't like it pointed out. Abdul was on it for days. Cha Aug 2018 #109

Like I could stop you? theaocp Aug 2018 #114

Gretchen Whitmer for Governor of Michigan! Cha Aug 2018 #121

Primaries are dirty yes, but if you run a dirty primary... joshcryer Aug 2018 #144

"Politics is dirty"? lapucelle Aug 2018 #231

Not really. joshcryer Aug 2018 #140

Regardless if we do or do not like the outcome, we should encourage everyone to vote. LonePirate Aug 2018 #29

Wanting a low turnout is a sign of weakness Gothmog Aug 2018 #39

The full story, from Playboy magazine. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #41

More of the full story from the Playboy interview, lapucelle Aug 2018 #120

The author's presumption is faulty. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #128

this was part of the Tea party's strategy too. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #43

It certainly has the Tea Party......aroma. oasis Aug 2018 #74

That's how she won and why she would be vulnerable if Crowley ran in the GE Renew Deal Aug 2018 #47

Could be problems then. He's not actively running but his name is on the ballot. brush Aug 2018 #48

Are you advocating people don't support the Democratic candidate, as she irritates you? theaocp Aug 2018 #53

DU is a wonderous place Renew Deal Aug 2018 #55

Oh please. I don't live in that district or even the state. brush Aug 2018 #56

Unfortunate. theaocp Aug 2018 #61

Ratfuckery is in the eye of the beholder. Did you see the clip of her on income inequality? brush Aug 2018 #91

These days, everything is in the eye of the beholder. Just ask 45. lol theaocp Aug 2018 #97

I've never used the term "that woman". My issue is her campaigning against Dem incumbents. brush Aug 2018 #104

I guess we disagree with the campaigning against the incumbents, but theaocp Aug 2018 #108

Give me your reasons for backing campaigning against a Democratic incumbent... brush Aug 2018 #127

Crowley is a Democrat. Wasn't the refrain used before R B Garr Aug 2018 #244

I really did like her when I first saw her, and I thought she was great for Brooklyn. Now Squinch Aug 2018 #49

We're curious to see what happens in the runup to the September primary. lapucelle Aug 2018 #137

Nixon is ridiculous. Squinch Aug 2018 #145

She went upstate to campaign. She spelled "Ithaca" wrong in her invites. lapucelle Aug 2018 #150

Oh, dear. Squinch Aug 2018 #152

My son lives in Ithica. His partner is doing a Ph.D. at Cornnel. lapucelle Aug 2018 #156

I hear there's a nice skool there. Squinch Aug 2018 #158

It's part of the Ivory Leeg. lapucelle Aug 2018 #166

Very interesting paradox here. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #179

Joe Crowley is not running. lapucelle Aug 2018 #181

I'll believe that when he's officially off the line. DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #183

You can believe whatever you choose to believe. lapucelle Aug 2018 #186

I get where she's coming from DFW Aug 2018 #50

Agree and disagree. theaocp Aug 2018 #54

AOC is WRONG to want the Vote Suppressed Cha Aug 2018 #57

You made me laugh. theaocp Aug 2018 #64

AOC sounds desperate.. hoping for low turnout. Cha Aug 2018 #84

We'll see in a few hours. theaocp Aug 2018 #90

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #79

I hate voter supression also. But she isn't advocating that Tom Rinaldo Aug 2018 #65

I agree, but it came across poorly. theaocp Aug 2018 #67

We can agree on that. n/t Tom Rinaldo Aug 2018 #86

Then why didn't she say that? That's entirely different than what she actually said. kcr Aug 2018 #111

You got that from what she said? ehrnst Aug 2018 #124

The only way that this candidate can win is in low turnout Gothmog Aug 2018 #70

I have no idea who or what the Bravo network is DFW Aug 2018 #81

No worries. theaocp Aug 2018 #88

I'm sure they must have a web site somewhere DFW Aug 2018 #113

She's not wrong but it's definitely a gaff. joshcryer Aug 2018 #147

To get out the vote you need good organizing, like safeinOhio Aug 2018 #52

25% turnout would be a record in Michigan for a primary election. Kaleva Aug 2018 #58

WTF? workinclasszero Aug 2018 #63

The same rule applied to Trump Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #66

Straight out of the GOP playbook. ehrnst Aug 2018 #69

one of the things I'll long remember bigtree Aug 2018 #78

Be fair. AOC has campaigned against more than one Dem incumbent. Not a good thing. brush Aug 2018 #96

Yeah, he can't address what AOC said in the OP.. trying Cha Aug 2018 #102

she's doing it in a primary IN FAVOR of Democratic candidates bigtree Aug 2018 #117

How many candidates are traveling all over the country participating in OTHERS' primaries? George II Aug 2018 #175

Why would you call me a liar in your first sentence? brush Aug 2018 #176

I've been called that by that person several times in these discussions. I just.... George II Aug 2018 #188

3....2....1...."it's participating in the democratic process" George II Aug 2018 #172

Perhaps a lot of the pushback she's getting is because since June... George II Aug 2018 #138

Yes, shocking that AOC is getting Pushback on a Democratic Cha Aug 2018 #163

It's a Bernie thing wonkwest Aug 2018 #177

Really? brer cat Aug 2018 #178

Score! Cha Aug 2018 #210

He said she said ? Give her a break. pwb Aug 2018 #129

Stop with the russian bot accusations dansolo Aug 2018 #200

Thank you! betsuni Aug 2018 #202

Mahalo, dansolo! Cha Aug 2018 #211

Anyone hoping for low turnout in ANY election can go fuck themselves. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #130

That really shows her inexperience. And also how El-Sayed has no chance, kcr Aug 2018 #131

Where is the link to Ocasio-Cortez actually saying Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #132

Here's the link. lapucelle Aug 2018 #142

That is peculiar tortured English followed by spin. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #157

I'm not being played. lapucelle Aug 2018 #164

She was very knowledgeable and conversant about her R B Garr Aug 2018 #187

Progressive Derangement at DU???? She never said she was hoping for low turn out. doxyluv13 Aug 2018 #134

AOC is Getting Pushback from her OWN WORDS. Cha Aug 2018 #174

In Ocasio-Cortez' New York City Campaign Finance Board profile, ehrnst Aug 2018 #141

It may just be a fancy way of saying "intern." DFW Aug 2018 #153

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #154

She did work for Kennedy's office before she went off to Boston College. Blue_true Aug 2018 #159

Who said she was "lying?" ehrnst Aug 2018 #161

I did not say you were lying. I was just pointing out how her claim can be totally legit. Blue_true Aug 2018 #165

Nice try. The question was "Who said she was "lying?" ehrnst Aug 2018 #167

Your original post had a link to her campaign. Blue_true Aug 2018 #170

I kinda thought you would actually address the post that you were replying to. ehrnst Aug 2018 #173

If she keeps getting the Bernie Sanders treatment at this rate dgauss Aug 2018 #148

"Sorry but this stuff reminds me of swift boating" kcr Aug 2018 #155

AOC's quote is indefensible but you thought to turn Cha Aug 2018 #160

Interestingly in Detroit, power outages have knocked out 14 polling locations. ehrnst Aug 2018 #151

Oh NO! Cha Aug 2018 #162

Sweet! Gretchen Whitmer.. I voted! Make sure you do, too! Cha Aug 2018 #168

divisive and destructive faction heaven05 Aug 2018 #189

I can debunk literally every single talking point in that link SkyDancer Aug 2018 #192

You and your candidates aren't so high and mighty pure... Cha Aug 2018 #193

"My candidates" are Democrats SkyDancer Aug 2018 #194

I just told you why that you have no room Cha Aug 2018 #195

Where did I say anything like that? SkyDancer Aug 2018 #196

OK.. I'll bring your quote on here.. Cha Aug 2018 #197

I don't agree with his tactics either SkyDancer Aug 2018 #198

Yeah, IMO.. just because El Sayed Cha Aug 2018 #199

I believe he would make a better governor SkyDancer Aug 2018 #201

Nah, he isn't Gov material.. Gretchen Whitmer is. Cha Aug 2018 #203

Both are SkyDancer Aug 2018 #216

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #205

Mahalo, betsuni.. Cha Aug 2018 #206

Every single one? betsuni Aug 2018 #204

debunk all you please heaven05 Aug 2018 #212

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #213

This is division SkyDancer Aug 2018 #218

I counseled heaven05 Aug 2018 #220

Explain to me please SkyDancer Aug 2018 #221

Their leadership and advice heaven05 Aug 2018 #222

And as I said, division SkyDancer Aug 2018 #223

Never said you're not welcome heaven05 Aug 2018 #228

In the 70s there was a different bloc of voters the age of today's Millenials. You think.... George II Aug 2018 #240

Cynthia Nixon is young? Maybe compared to me but she's only a few years younger than Cuomo. George II Aug 2018 #239

Michigan voters set new turnout record for August primary ehrnst Aug 2018 #207

Yeah Gothmog Aug 2018 #226

They ran out of ballots, 70% turnout. Ninsianna Aug 2018 #209

1. Why is Ocasio giving interviews to "Playboy"? Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #214

Success often goes to the heads of neophytes. MineralMan Aug 2018 #217

Think about who reads Playboy. ehrnst Aug 2018 #229

And she's a young dynamic attractive woman........? Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #238

What a deeply cynical strategy. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #219

I am so glad that there was good turnout in Michigan Gothmog Aug 2018 #224

I know what she's saying NastyRiffraff Aug 2018 #225

Wow, a lot of effort going in on destroying Ocasio. gtar100 Aug 2018 #230

She's destroying herself. honest.abe Aug 2018 #232

She's getting the right-wing smear big time. gtar100 Aug 2018 #233

She will win unless she completely self-destructs. honest.abe Aug 2018 #234

She will in November RandySF Aug 2018 #245

Yup workinclasszero Aug 2018 #235

Well, the primaries ended YESTERDAY, so perhaps you'll be in luck in another few hours? n/t theaocp Aug 2018 #236

Lets hope so workinclasszero Aug 2018 #237

Voter turnout shatters recent records for Michigan primary elections Gothmog Aug 2018 #243