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jodymarie aimee

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Tue Oct 9, 2018, 09:51 AM Oct 2018

Selling dryer Buyer says he can get it out if I help Fuck it I pick up a side Then I see look on his [View all]


SaraSuze @tragedythyme

A quick reminder for men: Common events for you can turn into really scary situations for women in a snap.

Case in point: This week I listed a clothes dryer on the Letgo app. Because it was a dryer, a neutral meeting location was impractical. I needed it taken out of my house.

To try to stay safe, I decided to only allow people to pick it up after 5 when my husband would be home. But a guy who works nights asked if he could come in the am instead; I said yes as long as you're here before husband leaves for work.

The next morning, buyer isn't here before husband leaves. I message and tell him not to come. He shows up 15 min later. In addition to being late, he has no dolly or help, despite the ad saying the dryer was in a basement & you'd have to remove yourself.

He says he will come back with help, I say after 5 would be great. He then asks if he could just see it real quick before coming back and bringing someone over, in case he doesn't want it. So, now I have a decision to make.

I quickly try to assess my likelihood of danger, as every woman has done so, so many times. It's instinct. First, what's his age? Late 60s, early 70s. He's tall but thin. Wearing a wedding ring. Hasn't smiled at me strangely or looked at me for too long. I make a judgment call.

Feeling like he's more likely to be safe than unsafe, and feeling badly about not letting him see the dryer, I invite him in. Once in the basement, he's POSITIVE he can get it out with just a LITTLE help he says, looking at me. Fuck it. I pick up a side.

Walk to the stairs is fine. We're sharing the work. With each stair, I'm feeling more and more of the weight. I'm sweating. Heaving. Pissed. Halfway up the stairs and it feels like he's doing NOTHING.
And then I see it. The look on his face.

He's staring at me, hard. Right in the eyes, sly smile on his lips. My hair is matted to my forehead. I can't get a comfortable grip. I'm just about to ask him what's going on - is he even lifting? - when he starts to speak.
"Damn, girl. Look at you. Man, those thighs. Put em to work, huh? That sweat looks good on you. Workin thighs like that, I bet your husband is a happy man. C'mon, show me what you got." I was mortified. And I'm realizing I can't get out. He & a dryer I'm lifting are blocking me.

So I do what women do, lower my eyes, pretend to laugh a little, start lifting faster. The comments and staring hey worse but I try to block them out. As soon as I am free of the basement I walk straight past him to my phone, wait 5 seconds, and say, "honey, the buyer is here!"

And wanna guess what happened? He left without buying it. Was this guy going murder me? Probably not. But I'm not sure. Am I pissed I had to worry about being murdered in my own home because grandpa creeper likes sweaty women? Yeah. Fucker.

The point - other than my being pissed and wanting to tell people - is that events like this, even when we come out ok, take an emotional toll. I was scared. He left more and more of the weight on me & watched me squirm. And now I have one more "thing" that I have to worry about.

So men, if you want to be allies, then recognizing that assault is bad is just the minimum. For every sexual assault, there are thousands of events that don't lead to violence but which scare the shit out of us, especially after our "assessment" turns out to have been wrong.

And obviously, if you ever are in a woman's home alone, whether during a service call or an online sale like this, accept if she's home alone, she's likely done the assessment. Respect her space, don't do gross shit. The basics. Please.

UPDATE: This man just showed up at my house. It's 10pm. Husband answered doorbell, drunk guy mumbles "wrong house" & goes back to his truck. I looked out the window and saw it was him. Tomorrow I'll be here alone with my 4yo while my husband is at work. Terrified in my own house.

UPDATE 2: called the police, they were VERY helpful & said I'm in a great spot for rotating cars to sit outside as much as they can tomorrow. Going to see about taking my little one & spending the day at a friend's house tomorrow just in case. Thank you to everyone for support.

A final comment about this: when I was stuck on the steps with that dryer & he was saying that disgusting shit, I just wanted to escape. I was scared but was calculating how to get out of the situation. Later, as I typed up this story, my fear had given way to rage & disgust.

And then tonight, when he came back, any fantasies I may have harbored earlier while I was typing this story about telling him to fuck off, leave me alone, etc - ALL of those disappeared immediately. I saw him and felt nothing but terror. This wasn't a man who'd physically hurt me. He didn't rape me. Never even touched n me, in fact. He just said gross shit as I struggled with a heavy appliance. Not that it was nothing, but in the grand scheme of things, my experience was nothing compared to the evil shit people do to each other every day. And yet what I felt when I saw him tonight was nothing short of terror. I will never, ever, be one of those movie heroines who seeks revenge and stands up for herself to teach the bad guy a lesson. I'm the girl who starts crying & shaking so badly she can't say the words "that's him" clearly

And if I'm being honest, I'm ashamed of that. For all my marching and fist-waving and dreams about screaming at bastards like Kavenaugh in some restaurant one day, the truth is that in the moment, I crumbled. I cried when I typed this update & when I called the police.

The rage that I felt earlier when I told this story hay not have been productive, but it felt good. I enjoyed thinking that this rage would protect & strengthen me if this ever happened again. But then when he showed up, that rage turned to mist. Nothing had changed in me. There was no newfound bravery or empowerment, no matter how much I wanted it to be so. And that's ok. I know it is ok to be scared.

But I could've lived without having my fantasy disproven so quickly. It was warm & made me feel good about myself, and I'll miss it. So, attention you asshole from letgo. It wasn't enough that you said those things & trapped me in my house & scared me & that my back is killing me now from holding that thing & moving it so fast. It wasn't enough that I'd never felt scared on my house before you showed up here tonight.
On top of all of that, you also took from me any hope that I would be one of those women who could turn fear to strength. I'm not one. But I would've liked to believe I was, & you took that from me, too. And damn it, fuck you for that, whoever you are. Just please, please don't come back.

NEXT DAY UPDATE: To all of the men on here pointing out what I did wrong to bring this on myself, please know I am taking articulate notes with your suggestions and cannot wait to follow your instructions and enjoy my new life of extreme safety
Also, lots more was said/done during the event that was utterly disgusting that I didn't discuss in detail here in order to avoid triggering others. Because that is yet another thing that women do instinctively to protect themselves and one another.
To the men who have reached out and told me they're listening to their wives & believing that this happens to them EVERY DAY - your stories warm my heart. And to the male allies on here standing up to other men while also seeking to improve yourselves - I fucking see and love you.
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I'm sorry. I'm just really sorry. Girard442 Oct 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Hugin Oct 2018 #2
I do believe the point is... malthaussen Oct 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Hugin Oct 2018 #8
She also clearly stated... malthaussen Oct 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Hugin Oct 2018 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Oct 2018 #3
Better idea might be for men to quit being such creeps camartinwv Oct 2018 #15
My God, I was making a helpful suggestion and you say I am victim blaming. still_one Oct 2018 #36
I hope you're still around. Check out how the thread has progressed. cwydro Oct 2018 #130
No, much WORSE happened. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #169
she was not asking for advice, however helpful you think you were being. niyad Oct 2018 #131
Welcome to DU, camartinwv. calimary Oct 2018 #173
No need to say it, indeed. Merlot Oct 2018 #23
It is advice I do myself. But that's fine. I have been accussed of "victimizing" the OP, which is still_one Oct 2018 #43
People love the excuse to gang up. cwydro Oct 2018 #51
Thanks cwydro. I need a break from here, and everything else going on right now anyway still_one Oct 2018 #52
come back very soon Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #60
I hear you. Just take a break if you need to. cwydro Oct 2018 #81
Don't leave lunatica Oct 2018 #56
You have a perfect right to take whatever risks the real world puts in your path Joe Chi Minh Oct 2018 #161
If there was no need to say it, WHY SAY IT? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #45
This is my last post here, and I am gone. I was giving advice that I give for myself, but instead still_one Oct 2018 #50
That must have been tough to write. malthaussen Oct 2018 #4
You did nothing at all to bring this on yourself. We're in a new normal and you ... marble falls Oct 2018 #5
I don't think I understand your post? TeapotInATempest Oct 2018 #20
The difference is it went from patriarchal (not good but reparable) to depredation ... marble falls Oct 2018 #25
As a woman, no, I don't think it's increasing. TeapotInATempest Oct 2018 #30
Violence isn't increasing, women are speaking up more Merlot Oct 2018 #32
I agree. Just like hearing about missing kids. We know instantly a child missing 1000 miles away. 7962 Oct 2018 #96
No, it's always been this bad, women are talking about it a lot more than they used to. nt raccoon Oct 2018 #87
This isn't a "new normal" and has nothing to do with politics Merlot Oct 2018 #26
I'm a 61 year old female..... mudstump Oct 2018 #100
Wow what a nightmare jcgoldie Oct 2018 #7
Sending you my support, jodymarie... RobertDevereaux Oct 2018 #9
I believe you...n/t bluecollar2 Oct 2018 #10
Thanks for telling your story.. Permanut Oct 2018 #11
You were conned. The Wizard Oct 2018 #12
Tough times our DU'er Corgigal Oct 2018 #14
Great idea. cate94 Oct 2018 #19
You all know this post and it's story are NOT something that happened to the DUer who posted it. Liberal In Texas Oct 2018 #68
THANK YOU. nt raccoon Oct 2018 #90
You're wasting posts. Hugin Oct 2018 #97
This thread is going to be epic. Kaleva Oct 2018 #118
And I only learned it by rereading the thread and saw the DUers who caught it. cwydro Oct 2018 #119
Um no, his comments amounted to victim blaming. Kinda like how you attempted to smear the OP. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #172
"Epic"? Why are you trying to shit on this thread? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #145
Opps, Corgigal Oct 2018 #146
Yes, it is a scary story, but it happens every day to women. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #153
Just out of curiosity... malthaussen Oct 2018 #157
EXCELLENT SUGGESTION !!!!! Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #175
Listen cate94 Oct 2018 #17
Hear, hear. TeapotInATempest Oct 2018 #21
yes - she used the best weapon Locrian Oct 2018 #71
Remember the old adage: Go with your first mind? Your instincts were correct... brush Oct 2018 #18
He probably wanted to "case the joint" onlyadream Oct 2018 #41
What a terrible feeling, that moment where you realize the danger you're in. TeapotInATempest Oct 2018 #22
I am glad you did not have a worse outcome. That being said, it was a sexual assault. 58Sunliner Oct 2018 #24
"...those women who could turn fear to strength. I'm not one..." Texin Oct 2018 #27
I totally understand the sizing up, doing the figuring in your head, holding your breath BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #28
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #29
I am so sorry for what happened to you. (Also, pink tax) Ilsa Oct 2018 #31
Yeah, the pink tax. TeapotInATempest Oct 2018 #34
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #48
Your story terrifies me and I am a man with a wife and 2 daughters and 2 sons. I told the story Pepsidog Oct 2018 #33
When my kids were small mercuryblues Oct 2018 #93
Very good advice Pepsidog Oct 2018 #149
JFC! So glad that weren't hurt jmbar2 Oct 2018 #35
What did your husband do/say when you looked out the window and said it was the guy? cwydro Oct 2018 #37
I'm glad you didn't get physically hurt and I'm sorry for the psychological trauma you went through. iscooterliberally Oct 2018 #38
I always put things on the drive way so they don't even have to meet me. onlyadream Oct 2018 #40
I do that sometimes too, but it has been raining a lot where I live. iscooterliberally Oct 2018 #44
Wow, I really saw myself in you. onlyadream Oct 2018 #39
Precautions men & women take to avoid being the victim of a violent crime is similar Kaleva Oct 2018 #42
Holy crap, do you live in a bad neighborhood or something? cwydro Oct 2018 #47
Taking steps to reduce to chances of being a victim reduces fear of being one. Kaleva Oct 2018 #59
I'm just curious as to why you have that much fear. cwydro Oct 2018 #83
Why did you think I have much fear? Kaleva Oct 2018 #94
Some statistics you forgot to mention... -Steph- Oct 2018 #54
You also forgot to mention of race of the men? Why? Kaleva Oct 2018 #57
Your post implied women and men are equally the victims of violent crime. They're not. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #67
I didn't imply it. I provided a link that backs up what I said. Kaleva Oct 2018 #76
Similar steps like you? Getting a gun? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #91
If a person thinks that good choice for them. Kaleva Oct 2018 #101
Oy. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #102
Some have dogs. roody Oct 2018 #155
Dogs are actually good for you, unlike guns. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #171
He also forgot to mention how many assaults against women go unreported. 58Sunliner Oct 2018 #180
Bringing guns into a home does NOT make a woman safer! SunSeeker Oct 2018 #58
Where did I suggest women get a gun for protection? Kaleva Oct 2018 #61
Your brag about what "precautions" you do, Kaleva. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #70
Again I ask, where did I suggest women get a gun? Kaleva Oct 2018 #78
Why bring up guns in your list of "precautions" post? Why even go there? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #79
Because that's what I do. Why would you want me to lie and say something different? Kaleva Oct 2018 #85
And how the fuck is that helpful? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #103
Your'e the one that keeps bringing it up. Kaleva Oct 2018 #105
You're not looking very hard. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #108
The OP just cut and paste something written by SaraSuze @tragedythyme Kaleva Oct 2018 #114
It happened to someone. Hence my response. Way to miss the point. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #116
You said this to the OP "Thank you for sharing your harrowing ecperience with that perv." Kaleva Oct 2018 #117
Several people commented that way, even using the OP's name. cwydro Oct 2018 #120
I'm not going to complain about the OP as the name of the author is in the very 1st line! Kaleva Oct 2018 #127
Very true. But she's not responded to any of the questions or expressions of concern. cwydro Oct 2018 #133
I've known the OP for a couple of years and I don't think she meant for us to make this mistake. Kaleva Oct 2018 #135
I WAS A RAPE VICTIM 4 SEPARATE TIMES BY 4 DIFFERENT MEN..my story.... jodymarie aimee Oct 2018 #165
OFFS. SO WHAT, Kaleva? I am talking to the person in the piece. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #121
Why so hostile to this poster? I asked him questions to, but you seem to have a problem with his cwydro Oct 2018 #122
Why are YOU so hostile to ME? Why do you feel compelled to defend him? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #124
I only asked you a question. Where do you see hostility? cwydro Oct 2018 #126
You are all over this thread shitting on the OP with "lol's" - suggesting it is suspect. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #136
The OP was not the survivor referenced in the original post. cwydro Oct 2018 #147
That doesn't make the OP's content, or the thread discussion, any less valid. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #150
Please read this and tell me the "term" you're thinking of, cwydro: SunSeeker Oct 2018 #170
Just how does one here talk to another who isn't even a member of DU? Kaleva Oct 2018 #125
Lol, thank you. cwydro Oct 2018 #129
The OP is not required to engage. Do you have a problem with the OP content? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #134
Every DUer is anonymous. So what? We "correspond" to lots of folks not here. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #132
I don't see any post in that thread saying something like "I'm so sorry to hear you have cancer!" Kaleva Oct 2018 #138
They are speaking directly to Mazie, THAT IS THE POINT. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #140
It didn't even happen to the OP lol. cwydro Oct 2018 #106
I did miss that! But my point in my first post remains the same. Kaleva Oct 2018 #112
Interestingly, I don't think the OP has responded to a single comment. cwydro Oct 2018 #123
"Funny, that." You REALLY think this is funny? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #137
"Funny" has many meanings in our wonderful language. cwydro Oct 2018 #148
I am not surprised by your evasive response. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #151
I WAS A RAPE VICTIM 4 SEPARATE TIMES BY 4 DIFFERENT MEN..my story.... jodymarie aimee Oct 2018 #163
Thank you for posting that, jodymarie aimee. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #166
Even if it didn't happen to the OP, it happens to millions of women. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #139
And trump apologizes to Kavanaugh for the hearings. Motherfucker. Paladin Oct 2018 #46
Glad you're okay. You have his phone number, right? More_Cowbell Oct 2018 #49
Thank you for sharing. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #53
I am so sorry for your experience Moostache Oct 2018 #55
I'm sorry this happened to you oldtime dfl_er Oct 2018 #62
I am so sorry you went through this. FM123 Oct 2018 #63
So sorry this happened to you catrose Oct 2018 #64
I needed to see this story today. logosoco Oct 2018 #65
What are you talking about? It's always been this way. It's just that now women raccoon Oct 2018 #99
yes, and the women I have known most always have talked about it. But now that it is more mainstream logosoco Oct 2018 #113
What a horror. I'm one of those "empowered " females, secondwind Oct 2018 #66
Empowered RobinA Oct 2018 #152
What an extraordinary story PatSeg Oct 2018 #69
+1 grantcart Oct 2018 #73
Remember, if you have a smart phone with voice command, 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #72
Wow, jodymarie, really glad that you're okay. kag Oct 2018 #74
Please rethink something Silver1 Oct 2018 #75
I love this story oldtime dfl_er Oct 2018 #77
omg..glad you are ok.. HipChick Oct 2018 #80
Scary Faux pas Oct 2018 #82
Reminds me of when I have to go to the hospital for something Ohiogal Oct 2018 #84
I am so very sorry that you went through this truly scary experience. niyad Oct 2018 #86
Have felt the same before LittleGirl Oct 2018 #88
So sorry this happened peggysue2 Oct 2018 #107
Here's a virtual hug IronLionZion Oct 2018 #89
My big wish when reading your story was that you were ahead of him on the stairs so you could have Maraya1969 Oct 2018 #92
Thank you for sharing this radical noodle Oct 2018 #95
How awful! I'm sorry that happened to you. MineralMan Oct 2018 #98
It didn't happen to the OP. See post 68. cwydro Oct 2018 #109
Well, the same goes for whomever it happened to. MineralMan Oct 2018 #110
As a man, due to my occupation, who has been in many houses alone with women, Canoe52 Oct 2018 #104
What a brilliant post. And detailed. Joe Chi Minh Oct 2018 #159
Thank you so much renate Oct 2018 #186
I almost didn't open this thread. You're bolder than you may give yourself BeckyDem Oct 2018 #111
The scary part is how common the story is for women. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #115
I'm embarrassed to be male sometimes. Ligyron Oct 2018 #128
I have been single most of my adult life, so I have workmen in the house often. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #141
Pathetic that we have to go to these lengths, isn't it? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #143
Why haven't you explained to Honeycombe8 how dangerous it is for there to be a gun in the house? Kaleva Oct 2018 #162
OFFS. Why haven't you apologized to the OP? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #167
Why? You ought to apologise for distracting from her message. Kaleva Oct 2018 #176
I have been supporting her and reinforcing her point, unlike you. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #178
A majority of your posts in this thread are attacking others. Kaleva Oct 2018 #181
Project much? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #182
Then why didn't you say that to honeycombe8? Kaleva Oct 2018 #183
Because her post involved a larger point, unlike your posts. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #184
"Bringing guns into a home does NOT make a woman safer!" " Kaleva Oct 2018 #164
I just really have never thought about what we women do, daily, to try and stay safe meadowlark5 Oct 2018 #142
I'm so sorry this happened to you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #144
Yes, as a man I didn't realize this until I thought about it later as an adult... jimlup Oct 2018 #154
I have always had a dog in my house HelenWheels Oct 2018 #156
In this very un-ideal world, you must be Joe Chi Minh Oct 2018 #158
I'm watching my grandkids, so a quick reply Marthe48 Oct 2018 #160
You caught a lucky break coeur_de_lion Oct 2018 #168
Assuming you were getting rid of the old dryer because you replaced it with a new one cstanleytech Oct 2018 #174
Reasonable Fear Chitowncutie Oct 2018 #177
I had an anxiety attack reading this. mountain grammy Oct 2018 #179
I'm unbelievably sorry this happened to you. PatrickforO Oct 2018 #185
Thank you for sharing. That is a frightening experience. Nitram Oct 2018 #187
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