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Jim Lane

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82. You ask, "What's so bad about that?"

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:39 PM

Jan 2019

My point is that Clinton's personal attack on Obama in the 2008 primary was more negative than any ad that Bernie ran in 2016. Anyone who criticizes Bernie while giving Clinton a pass is applying a double standard.

ETA: The context was that I was responding to a post that's since been removed, which bashed Bernie concerning the 2016 primary.

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Are we prepared for Elizabeth Warren to be revealed as the worst human on the face of the earth? [View all] Girard442 Jan 2019 OP

No matter which Dem is in the spotlight at at any particular time, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #1

Yup. Girard442 Jan 2019 #2

And any woman candidate PatSeg Jan 2019 #41

that's all they've got. name calling. spanone Jan 2019 #3

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This message was self-deleted by its author brush Jan 2019 #21

I think you missed the sarcasm karynnj Jan 2019 #39

I was just talking about the 2016 election and the well known party bashing... brush Jan 2019 #47

Many of us hear you, brush.. Cha Jan 2019 #88

Roll the video... guruoo Jan 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author brush Jan 2019 #55

You have your own opinion and your right to to it, but many others do not see the "bashing" karynnj Jan 2019 #64

Thank you! Those clips are a great addition to this subthread. Jim Lane Jan 2019 #80

And they believe they are uniting Democrats guruoo Jan 2019 #89

The "3 a.m. phone call" ad was an update of the one Mondale ran against Gary Hart in 1984. betsuni Jan 2019 #68

You ask, "What's so bad about that?" Jim Lane Jan 2019 #82

I think calling someone corrupt to their face is a pretty negative attack. betsuni Jan 2019 #87

Liked that ad then, but I was supporting Hillary that primary. guruoo Jan 2019 #90

Do you mean like you are doing now? Maggiemayhem Jan 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author brush Jan 2019 #67

And then there's the NCTU, guruoo Jan 2019 #91

Haven't we already learned that? That's all Trump talks about. Autumn Jan 2019 #4

I'd like to point out that Trump was a bright shiny object to many on the right populistdriven Jan 2019 #5

That is the fox propaganda network's reason for being. democratisphere Jan 2019 #6

Because of widespread societal prevalence of misogyny and ageism, she will be facing the same ugly hlthe2b Jan 2019 #7

"Ageism" is a weak defense to te argument that new blood is needed in party leadership posts Tarc Jan 2019 #59

thank you for proving my point in such an ugly way. All 70-somethings are the same in your book... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #61

Yes, they are all the same, and it's time to move on. Tarc Jan 2019 #66

I hope all DUers who think such bigotry does not occur on DU see your post. n/t hlthe2b Jan 2019 #69

I hope you figure out what bigotry actually means someday Tarc Jan 2019 #94

Classic ageist bigotry. Perhaps you should take your own advice. hlthe2b Jan 2019 #96

"Classic ageist bigotry" Tarc Jan 2019 #97

Truth hurts you, eh, Tarc: Nancy Pelosi (78 yo) Elected Speaker as Democrats Take Control of House hlthe2b Jan 2019 #99

She only got elected Speaker because she agreed to step down in 2022 Tarc Jan 2019 #100

After four year term? "Only got elected Speaker ...." what Bullshit. What are you smoking, Tarc? hlthe2b Jan 2019 #102

Yes, I'm glad you were able to parse the sentence Tarc Jan 2019 #104

That is hardly what you need... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #105

You can keep using words that you do not know of the meaning of Tarc Jan 2019 #106

Showing off your limited understanding of sentence syntax and grammar, it appears... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #107

Still keeping this going? Tarc Jan 2019 #108

absolutely! Brainstormy Jan 2019 #103

why is "new blood" needed at all? treestar Jan 2019 #81

Indeed... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #86

Tone deafness, of course, is not age-dependent. JudyM Jan 2019 #93

Warren IS new blood. She's only been in gov service for 10 years nt mathematic Jan 2019 #72

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She can take it. lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #8

I agree she can take it KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #83

You know it! We all know it! KPN Jan 2019 #9

I hope so, but even some DUers are falling for rusty fender Jan 2019 #10

Agreed blur256 Jan 2019 #77

Yup! rusty fender Jan 2019 #78

Oh indeed! vlyons Jan 2019 #11

I like her ideas but I don't think she has the natural charisma to widely appeal Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #12

Try listening to her. She's very convincing in her speeches. Makes great sense. brush Jan 2019 #16

I've heard her speak in person, greymattermom Jan 2019 #27

I heard her speak when she was campaigning for Natalie Tennant. Maggiemayhem Jan 2019 #53

She's not my first choice... Adrahil Jan 2019 #13

hoping she's stepped forward to draw fire from others 0rganism Jan 2019 #14

I like Elizabeth but... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2019 #51

I think she can handle enemy fire. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2019 #17

This post does not seem PDittie Jan 2019 #18

The point is that the shitstorm is coming, regardless of who announces. Girard442 Jan 2019 #26

Why indeed. PDittie Jan 2019 #36

Why would they? brooklynite Jan 2019 #20

Or they, and the Russian bots, will try to pick the Dem nominee. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #24

Trump has already started. They'll follow. Remember, he's been officially campaigning pnwmom Jan 2019 #37

Looking forward to it pecosbob Jan 2019 #22

It doesn't matter what those wackos in the Repuke party do... Stellar Jan 2019 #23

Yep. When the right-wing wurlitzer kicks in, they'll be accusing her of eating babies. backscatter712 Jan 2019 #25

Or any D nominee for that matter BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #28

Hopefully, the Democrats don't get sucked in like they did to the Hillary hating. 33taw Jan 2019 #29

Yep, we are prepared! And I think we know by now how to not to get sucked into their trap. FM123 Jan 2019 #30

Maybe we can convince our favorite McCarthyite from Texas to run again pecosbob Jan 2019 #31

Unfortunately, the Boston Globe is the tip of the spear on taking her candidacy out. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #32

Follow the money guruoo Jan 2019 #57

Warren is highly qualified and a strong candidate. BlueWI Jan 2019 #33

Good points BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #38

Thanks. BlueWI Jan 2019 #42

Rebuild the blue wall and we win BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #45

If Hillary Clinton had won the election Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #34

Sadly it won't just be republicans. Brace yourself for her getting the "Beto treatment" from some. George II Jan 2019 #35

Jesus Christ could declare his candidacy . . . Roadside Attraction Jan 2019 #40

Now you are just being silly KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #85

If we stood together and supported one another rather than doing the same nolabear Jan 2019 #43

She already invited it by bumbling the Native American ancestry bit, honestly Tarc Jan 2019 #44

And she was proven right with a DNA test. Maggiemayhem Jan 2019 #54

That doesn't matter, and people that do this kinda piss off actual tribe members. Tarc Jan 2019 #58

She's not going anywhere near the one-drop rule. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #62

This is all nice deflection, but, Tarc Jan 2019 #65

Why? betsuni Jan 2019 #56

"one drop rule" Tarc Jan 2019 #60

keep stoking that shit Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #71

Sorry if simple facts upset you Tarc Jan 2019 #95

it won't just be gop Locrian Jan 2019 #46

Why in the name of all that's holy Rural_Progressive Jan 2019 #49

Lots of "progressives" have already done that shenmue Jan 2019 #50

Agree. More Concerned About Attacks from the "Left" TomCADem Jan 2019 #70

I sure hope so, enough with their BS. arthritisR_US Jan 2019 #63

Are we prepared for the gullible among us to swallow whatever garbage there is? Hekate Jan 2019 #73

Sadly, it's not only Republicans NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #74

Remember when everyone loved her and would WhiteTara Jan 2019 #75

"I'd love a woman for president, just not this one. If Elizabeth Warren were running, she'd betsuni Jan 2019 #76

She's shrill, she doesn't smile enough, she WhiteTara Jan 2019 #79

I really hope you forgot the sarcasm emoji. nt cwydro Jan 2019 #84

I didn't think one was needed. WhiteTara Jan 2019 #92

the question is......is she ready? Takes a mighty thick skin... samnsara Jan 2019 #101