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dawg day

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22. Nixon won in landslide in 1972...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)

And 18 months later was down to about 25% approval rating and forced to resign-- and the crimes were much less, in retrospect, than Trump's (however, Nixon's war was much more horrendous). The disapproval for him in the left was very much amplified by the anti-war attitudes. As with LBJ (a Democrat who was probably even more loathed on the left-- this wasn't "partisan" ), the war created the base of opposition to him.

I think with Nixon, it wasn't that the group of people who hated him grew, but the people who liked him in 1972 grew to dislike him-- not to hate him (my mother-in-law even now will say moderately good things about him) but to actually disapprove of him as a "crook".
Those of us who despised him weren't surprised, but we weren't anywhere near a majority.
With Trump, all along, a majority thought he was terrible-- obviously, 3 million more.

Thing is, Nixon for all his many faults and crookednesses had a real idea of what could be good for the country (also did bad, of course). He went to China-- so amazing then that someone made an opera about it!-- and started the EPA. He tried to install wage/price controls to stop rampant inflation. While I seldom agreed with him, I think he had a few areas where he wanted to help the country. He did care.

Trump doesn't care at all about the country. Not one jot. (Or about his family either-- it's like inhuman, well, not even "inhuman," as probably even goldfish care about their families.) So he's worse in an order of magnitude, and I think the monumental and unshifting majority that has been against him since day one is evidence of this. We know he's WRONG and we knew it all along. That's already a majority.

What Trump has that Nixon didn't is a hard cadre of lunatic cult followers who will never leave him. I don't know how many that is-- 35%? 30%? Nixon never had those worshippers, so once the "establishment" quit him, the bottom dropped out quickly. He didn't have a lot of "to the death" loyalists.

I was remembering both Bushes had terrible approval ratings-- below 30% -- near the end of their terms. Trump's base is higher than that, which is truly scary.

Hopefully Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #1
+++ still_one Jul 2020 #6
FUCK ALL OF THESE "GROUPS" AZ8theist Jul 2020 #44
every one that can help to get him gone is important cynical_idealist Jul 2020 #49
Thank you so much. Over a million women marched the day after he was sworn in. Airports... Hekate Jul 2020 #55
I contribute to a couple of those veterans groups you curse. TomSlick Jul 2020 #58
We need all hands on deck Squidly Jul 2020 #61
Kickity Kick This zentrum Jul 2020 #64
You all missed my point completely AZ8theist Jul 2020 #65
Agree they DIDN'T LISTEN. betsuni Jul 2020 #68
THANK YOU for comprehending my original post. AZ8theist Jul 2020 #72
MARY TRUMP SAID THE SAME THING blakstoneranger Jul 2020 #66
Everything in your post is spot on. Totally Tunsie Jul 2020 #71
You can blame it on a guy at NBC. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #76
I've cursed Mark Burnett on many an occasion for introducing Totally Tunsie Jul 2020 #79
I dunno. Trump was making national news long before the TV show fescuerescue Jul 2020 #81
Amen brother! PNW-Dem Jul 2020 #67
YeeHaw!! Yes, fellow atheists are always welcome in my space...(on line, that is!) AZ8theist Jul 2020 #74
If you can't get folks to change their minds and see things your way, why bother? GusBob Jul 2020 #69
As I have said before.. AZ8theist Jul 2020 #73
Sorry, GusBob, I was not referring to you.... AZ8theist Jul 2020 #75
I knew who you were referring to no problem, not me,them GusBob Jul 2020 #78
I agree with you.. AZ8theist Jul 2020 #80
May we be successful pandr32 Jul 2020 #2
Let me know when the US Senate gets added to the list Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #3
It is! True Blue American Jul 2020 #10
The US Senate is on our list. We will remove many Trump enablers. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
Read this morning that Romney believes that tRump will be reelected. pazzyanne Jul 2020 #26
What does Romney know that we don't about plans to cheat? Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #28
Russian, republikan--dime's worth..... lastlib Jul 2020 #32
He thinks we won't show up to vote, lol! MoonRiver Jul 2020 #34
We ARE going to show up to vote in numbers that are going to set records, but not_the_one Jul 2020 #45
Agreed, and this is our challenge. But it's not what Romney was implying. MoonRiver Jul 2020 #47
and 75000 SS Stormtroopers "guarding" the election? AZ8theist Jul 2020 #77
I don't trust tRump and his minion, at all. pazzyanne Jul 2020 #46
Perhaps Romney has seen those Russian packets sent out... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2020 #48
Article from 2012 reported Hart Intercivic voting machine co. has ties to Romney diva77 Jul 2020 #63
especially bdamomma Jul 2020 #54
My point was the Senate currently chooses NOT to remove Trump. Trump would already be gone... Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #82
It is impressive. This is a huge team. Mike 03 Jul 2020 #4
Is sentiment against Trump worse than Nixon? Also, Trump and his cult leaders need to be demonized uponit7771 Jul 2020 #5
I was around during Nixon, this is different. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #7
+1, I looked at Fauci's approval ratings with MAGA Cultist and its 39% !! WTF!? He's a doctor !! uponit7771 Jul 2020 #9
We have a neighbor who glares at my husband when he walks the dogs. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #12
That's alarming the amount of empty headed one source of information idiots living in it who ... uponit7771 Jul 2020 #15
These mindless twits are their own enemies. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #16
These people are so brainwashed they are brain damaged and can no longer understand the kimbutgar Jul 2020 #20
Yes not as smart as Dr Fauci mgardener Jul 2020 #30
Nixon, to his sort-of credit, had a smidgeon of patriotism and a big helping of self-preservation- dawg day Jul 2020 #11
+1, my understanding is Wallace would've reacted against Russia bounty hunters but I'm thinking uponit7771 Jul 2020 #17
Wallace didn't care about anything except getting rid of Black and Brown people. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #21
Nixon won in landslide in 1972... dawg day Jul 2020 #22
Life before rampant conspiracy theories and redistricting that moonscape Jul 2020 #35
Nixon had the loyal support of the military and the "super patriot" RWNJs FakeNoose Jul 2020 #41
I said last week to someone Trump makes Nixon look like a choirboy. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #43
I hated Nixon like I hate Trump now. But in retrospect, Nixon was not nearly as bad. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #18
Yep. Too young to remember much. Was 8 when he resigned. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #57
He did conspire with North Viet Nam to extend the war until his election. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #83
I'm remembering the "Dump Johnson" movement. At least Raven Jul 2020 #8
You are saying Trump has True Blue American Jul 2020 #14
Not among normal people. Among Republicans. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #19
I was joking.:) True Blue American Jul 2020 #29
How on earth did you get that from my post??? Raven Jul 2020 #25
Man. Woman. TV. Elephant. Gonzo. bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #23
I'm a bit surprised nobody has been discussing "2nd Amendment solutions", but we're not them groundloop Jul 2020 #24
With Hitler, they tried a bomb Wednesdays Jul 2020 #38
Nope. They'll never aim that at a fellow republi-CON. calimary Jul 2020 #42
with all this, because of corruption, we can't be sure he's going to lose samsingh Jul 2020 #27
Every American wants him removed. uncle ray Jul 2020 #31
Trump's musclecar6 Jul 2020 #33
Yes, I suppose it is larger than the effort to remove Obama, but not by much. Nitram Jul 2020 #36
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2020 #37
This is looking like a landslide DIVINEprividence Jul 2020 #39
What does that even mean? procon Jul 2020 #40
It means what I said. People, groups , organizations are coming together to remove Trump. shockey80 Jul 2020 #50
There's no planned "coming together". procon Jul 2020 #51
He's being attacked from all flanks. That's "organized" enough. Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #70
As sad as it makes me to say this, Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #52
Gunfire? More like teargas. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #59
I'm getting to the point bdamomma Jul 2020 #53
Vote Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #56
It really is a good idea. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #60
And it is gonna take all of us to get his evil @ss out! Nt helpisontheway Jul 2020 #62
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