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NNadir

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55. "Let's say it costs $1,000,000..."
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

One million dollars can't even start a lab:

There are lots of these diagrams on the internet:



I've seen numbers that are smaller - depending on the therapeutic area - and numbers that are much larger, but a good working figure for bringing a new drug to market is one billion dollars.

In general, a company has 17 years on its patent life. It general takes 10 to 12 years to bring a new drug to market. This means you have five to seven years to make all that money back. If the drug is for a rare disease with only a few thousands of patients, the price will decidedly not be three dollars.

A company called Spark Therapeutics developed a drug - a gene therapy - that cures a rare form of blindness with a few injections. People who couldn't see, can see, with just a few injections.

This form of gene therapy was of a type of treatment that had never succeeded in any previous attempts.

It involves two injections, six days apart.

Now, it is an issue in our society to figure out how much a single person's eyesight is worth, but I can assure you that this drug would not exist were it to see for 3 dollars a treatment.

It is a severe financial risk, by the way, to develop a drug that cures a disease, because if someone takes it for two weeks and gets better, it is difficult to recoup one's investment. Maintenance drugs are much better investments. This is a moral problem, of course, and sometimes it proves worthwhile to cure a disease. Gilead bought Sofosbuvir, discovered by Michael Sofia for billions of dollars by acquiring Pharmasett. It cures Hepatitis C for most patients. Of course there were a lot of people who were infected (but not yet symptomatic) with Hep C. It eliminates the infection.

It saved the world hundreds of billions of dollars, of course, because HepC is a tragic disease that was widespread.

Now that it is near elimination, it doesn't make much sense however to bet your future income on Sofobuvir, does it?

We have a problem on this planet inasmuch as we are not developing anti-infective agents because at a billion dollars a drug, it may not make sense to invest in them, since you are likely to lose money.. I don't have an answer for that problem, but no, bashing pharmaceutical scientists and telling them they need to provide medications for $3.00 a pill is not going anywhere.

Not a one RainCaster Aug 2020 #1
Come on, there has to be at least one, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #5
they are legalized extortion Skittles Aug 2020 #2
It's all about the money isn't it? AmyStrange Aug 2020 #3
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #4
Yep PatSeg Aug 2020 #14
Corporations. Newest Reality Aug 2020 #6
You're not doing a good job of convincing me otherwise, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #7
They can't be altruistic. Legally, if they are a corporation, they must do AJT Aug 2020 #8
Ok, finally something to make me think otherwise... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #9
Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority of 60 votes in the Senate for four months and 10 days betsuni Aug 2020 #11
Thank you, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #13
No Republicans voted for it, all Democrats and Independents. betsuni Aug 2020 #15
Thank you for you're elaboration, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #16
I'm sure you knew this already. betsuni Aug 2020 #43
Nope, I didn't know the details, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #45
thats not true SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #48
Thanks for the added info, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #71
They are exactly what is expected from a capitalistic society. unitedwethrive Aug 2020 #10
Ok, this helps too, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #12
I have worked with the pharmaceutical industry for more than 3 decades. NNadir Aug 2020 #17
Talking down to my moral inferiors? AmyStrange Aug 2020 #18
Let's not pretend that your question wasn't loaded, OK? NNadir Aug 2020 #19
Believe what you want, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #20
Here's why you're perceptions are off... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #21
Were that the case, you'd be researching relevant and peer-reviewed sources. LanternWaste Aug 2020 #72
You're wrong AmyStrange Aug 2020 #74
You mean Shkreli? Pharma bro? moondust Aug 2020 #22
I heard it was because they can, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #23
I don't think ANY of them are altruistic Luciferous Aug 2020 #24
Come on, there must be at least one or two, or... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #26
they exist to turn a profit for their shareholders spanone Aug 2020 #25
That's what other people have said, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #27
Several of the scientists and their other employees... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #28
2,000 dollars!!! AmyStrange Aug 2020 #29
That was the cost nearly a decade ago. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #30
Wow! AmyStrange Aug 2020 #31
The FDA approval process is pretty long and costly sometimes. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #32
Wait a minute. Can't they write all that off... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #33
I always thought those costs were the burden of the companies... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #34
I don't know if I am right or not... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #35
Get some good rest! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #36
I'll try, and take care of yourself also... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #37
You too! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #38
Perhaps the scientists at Genentech, rather than be thought greedy, shouldn't have done... NNadir Aug 2020 #42
Thanks for the info, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #44
Let me understand this question... NNadir Aug 2020 #50
I DO understand that drug companies want to make money, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #54
"Let's say it costs $1,000,000..." NNadir Aug 2020 #55
Thank you, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #59
If it costs $1 billion dollars to develop a drug - a common and reasonable figure - you need... NNadir Aug 2020 #62
You make a good case, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #63
Google is your friend. Here's a list of 31 pharmaceutical companies in danger of bankruptcy in 2020 NNadir Aug 2020 #66
Hmm, If companies are losing money... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #70
Let's see. Should we characterize all of us by Rod Blagojevich and Dan Rostenkowski because... NNadir Aug 2020 #73
What the hell dude... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #75
It's Part Of SG&A In Most Cases ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #53
I'm sure that you're right... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #58
The Cost To Make That One Pill... ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #67
I agree, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #69
I'm glad things worked out, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #49
I don't understand the hostility. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #65
Check your in-box AmyStrange Aug 2020 #68
The more disease there is, the more they make. gulliver Aug 2020 #39
I can see that with drugs... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #57
With all due respect..... liberaltrucker Aug 2020 #40
No respect needed... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #46
No way RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2020 #41
I didn't know this... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #47
Oh brother. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #51
What's your opinion on the Master Bates discussion here? AmyStrange Aug 2020 #56
No way in hell! nt Raine Aug 2020 #52
I'll take that as an emphatic no, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #64
Is Bloomberg a legitimate source here? AmyStrange Aug 2020 #60
I'm having a problem finding the cost for FDA approval... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #61
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