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Celerity

(44,213 posts)
62. 'how can we win even with these laws standing for now?'
Wed May 19, 2021, 03:07 AM
May 2021

More suppression laws will be passed at every level from state level (but affecting federal elections as well) on down. Also the partisan gerrymandering will occur at every level from federal districts on down. Plus we lost seats during the post 2020 Census reapportionment. Even with HR 1 and the John Lewis Act passed, the House is likely gone. Without them, is is likely a Red wave and the Senate is in jeopardy.

Before any of this all, 2022 was shaping up as the Rethugs having around 15 to 20 fewer at-risk House seats than us. Now that is likely closer to 30 less for them.

We have 4 at-risk Senate seats, and 3 are in Rethug Trifecta states that will slam in suppression laws:

Georgia - Warnock

Nevada - Catherine Cortez Masto (Brian Sandoval would be the toughest Rethug to beat, he has said no so far at least)

New Hampshire - Maggie Hassan (her two strongest opponents would probably be Former Senator Kelly Ayotte and especially Governor Sununu, the Rethugs flipped BOTH the State Senate and the State House in 2020 and now hold a Trifecta)

Arizona - Mark Kelly

Vermont - a wild card if Leahy retires and the very popular Rethug Gov Phil Scott runs, although he might go Angus King route, and run as an Indie and caucus with us if he wins


In contrast, wishful projections aside (no we are not going to beat Rand Paul in KY, nor win MO, IN, etc, and FL is going to be hella hard, as is OH, even with Portman retiring)

we have 3 pickup possibilities that are in actual play and not huge stretches

Pennsylvania Open Seat (our best hope) Fetterman is by far our best shot so, IMHO

North Carolina Open Seat (Cheri Beasley is looking more and more like the Dem frontrunner, plus Jeff Jackson is in the mix too) massive wildcard is Lara Trump

Wisconsin Ron Johnson (asshat deluxe, I fucking hate this clown, hope he doesn't run) Mandela Barnes would help drive the most key voters (and the hardest group to get to turn out) in the state, the blacks in Milwaukee (and to a lesser extent, Madison)


the odds of us, as it is a first midterm, plus the voter suppression. gaining a net +2 (so Manchin and Sinema are neutered) are lower than us ending up at 50-50 again or even a net -1, as I think we are in real trouble in all 4 of those seats we have to defend, 2 for sure (AZ is the best for us, then NV) and the only of of the 3 truly possible pickups I feel ok about is PA, with NC a bit less, and WI the hardest, even if asshat Putin shill Johnson runs. WI is so fucking corrupt, as is NC, thank fuck we have Dem Gov in each, although WI has so hamstrung Evers.

Gun to my head atm, I think we lose GA (worst nightmare would be if that idiot yank football player, Herschel Walker runs and beats Warnock as he will draw some black votes I fear simply do to his legendary status) and NH (especially if Sununu runs, and also because of NH Rethugs on a real roll there, a trifecta and can supress now), gain PA, fail to flip in WI, so it comes down to NC to maintain control at 50-50. If Lara Trump runs there, the former guy will drive the QMAGAts to the polls for her, so it will be a shitshow and get really racially nasty, as Beasley is African American.

PA, GA, and NH are the key races to watch. If we lose them all, it could be a long night, a long bad one.

He's Not Wrong Beetwasher. May 2021 #1
he's not really right either qazplm135 May 2021 #30
So you think they are beaten then? hadEnuf May 2021 #40
I think the whole concept of "beaten" qazplm135 May 2021 #48
And Making sure Votes count greblach May 2021 #52
HR 1 isn't going to happen qazplm135 May 2021 #54
'how can we win even with these laws standing for now?' Celerity May 2021 #62
We have been winning in spite qazplm135 May 2021 #63
there has not been this sheer amount of new suppression laws since the height of Jim Crow Celerity May 2021 #64
I have no idea qazplm135 May 2021 #65
It is just a snapshot in time call, and I never claimed to be omniscient nor definitive Celerity May 2021 #67
I want to thank you onlyadream May 2021 #70
YW & I'll become far, far more optimistic if certain things occur (looking at you Manchin & Sinema) Celerity May 2021 #83
And others qazplm135 May 2021 #79
I post what I think is closest to the outcome ATM. I will not make things up just to make some Celerity May 2021 #82
No you posted qazplm135 May 2021 #86
lol I was quoting YOU, I never said that myself Celerity May 2021 #90
And then you typed other stuff qazplm135 May 2021 #93
the last time voter suppression efforts were this intense, Dems were winning BECAUSE of them Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #89
Oh please qazplm135 May 2021 #92
You haven't been paying attention, or are too young too remember the pre-VRA era Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #94
Got it you win qazplm135 May 2021 #95
You are correct that this is a marathon. hadEnuf May 2021 #77
We won 2018 qazplm135 May 2021 #78
And the GOP is working on that problem right now with massive new voter supression laws. hadEnuf May 2021 #84
Meanwhile qazplm135 May 2021 #87
Agreed. Nothing is over on either side. hadEnuf May 2021 #96
He's right - about 2022. That was his principle point. KPN May 2021 #45
only in the most general of terms qazplm135 May 2021 #49
I agree. We need to show results. But we also need to go for the throat with these KPN May 2021 #57
Sure there qazplm135 May 2021 #58
You're right. They couldnt even get the damn wall built oldsoftie May 2021 #74
T H I S Cosmocat May 2021 #31
Truer words have never been spoken. The GQP clearly want one party lifetime rule. usaf-vet May 2021 #32
In essence, that King's Gambit was the first move. It certainly won't be the last. Texin May 2021 #36
Nailed it... lame54 May 2021 #2
Yes! empedocles May 2021 #17
Yes! empedocles May 2021 #18
They are gearing up for the takeover in '22 -- and forever after. Texin May 2021 #37
Agree! n/t OhioChick May 2021 #55
I think republicans are destroying themselves inside ... Lovie777 May 2021 #3
That may be true, but the question is... Salviati May 2021 #11
Exactly. Policy, comity and fig leafs for the sake KPN May 2021 #47
People mistake their internal reorganization as destruction. FoxNewsSucks May 2021 #14
Dead on... airmid May 2021 #28
I suspect that to be the truth if it. 2naSalit May 2021 #42
They can still wield outsize influence, control media, and win elections. Beartracks May 2021 #53
k&r for visibility alwaysinasnit May 2021 #4
Yes magats are EVIL.. Cha May 2021 #5
Rick Wilson is all but screaming for us to wake up Hekate May 2021 #6
It makes no difference how awake we are. SoonerPride May 2021 #8
Manchin and Sinema have no role in forming a House commission on January 6. Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #22
Manchin now seems to support just a renewal of the voting rights act. Lonestarblue May 2021 #46
Manchin's proposal is disingenuous- doomed to be overturned by SCOTUS Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #51
We need to figure out ways to win without HR1 Elessar Zappa May 2021 #56
It's not going to pass qazplm135 May 2021 #66
There is no plan B - either you have free and fair elections, or you don't have a democracy Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #73
Lol qazplm135 May 2021 #80
Talk to Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Merkley, Klobuchar, Jayapal- they all know the stakes Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #85
You've just set up qazplm135 May 2021 #88
Not suggesting that anyone shouldn't vote, only that their vote may not count without HR1 Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #91
lol well qazplm135 May 2021 #97
Bingo!! onetexan May 2021 #19
Why is he screaming into the void of twitter? SoonerPride May 2021 #7
Who's putting them to the test ? OnDoutside May 2021 #12
He's not wrong JustAnotherGen May 2021 #9
standing O Grasswire2 May 2021 #10
Manchin and sinema Fullduplexxx May 2021 #13
This is 100% right FoxNewsSucks May 2021 #15
I think he's wrong ezgoingrl May 2021 #16
Wilson knows the Republican mind. He is absolutely correct. We need to just DO it. SunSeeker May 2021 #20
I hate that he is right RANDYWILDMAN May 2021 #21
Sage advice. Hope Democrats will follow it because what he says is true. Autumn May 2021 #23
He is 100% Snackshack May 2021 #24
Take heed, be prepared! BlueJac May 2021 #25
Old age and treachery will always win over youth and skill." soldierant May 2021 #26
He is 100% correct. UCmeNdc May 2021 #27
Stop thinking that the GOP are your colleagues... They are the ENEMY and will stop at nothing world wide wally May 2021 #29
it pains me to admit and say this, Rick Wilson is 1,000% Correct. msfiddlestix May 2021 #33
+1000000% Mr. Sparkle May 2021 #34
I can't remember... is Wilson the child molestor or is it the other one? WarGamer May 2021 #35
I so agree. I hope this little bipartisanship show kacekwl May 2021 #38
THIS has been constantly in th back of my mind BigmanPigman May 2021 #39
I hated him for so long MuseRider May 2021 #41
This x 1000 peggysue2 May 2021 #43
I AGREE spanone May 2021 #44
Again, the Republicans Etherealoc1 May 2021 #50
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey May 2021 #59
I hope they're taking this seriously. calimary May 2021 #60
K&R x 10000 Imallin4Joe May 2021 #61
Spot on. orangecrush May 2021 #68
Ironic that now Wilson is being a little mean to Democrats, he's okay. betsuni May 2021 #69
That last line is haunting SledDriver May 2021 #71
Shouldn't he be warning Republicans? kentuck May 2021 #72
One thing's for certain, this shit won't stop if we don't win more control in state legislatures. sarchasm May 2021 #75
There are all kinds of places where one could draw their line in the sand. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #76
If only the Dems would listen!!!! Catch2.2 May 2021 #81
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