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mainer

(12,031 posts)
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 02:22 PM Aug 2021

My son said I didn't respect his views. Now he has COVID. [View all]

I suspect there are other parents on DU who are facing the same heartbreaking dilemma: children who are vaccine-hesitant and won't listen to us. My husband and I tried and tried to talk him into getting the vaccine, but he questions its safety, efficacy, etc. He bought into the whole "the vaccines are rushed" narrative. He thought that if he just stayed masked up and away from crowds, he could avoid Covid.

The last time I saw him (a month ago) I pushed it too hard. I told him that if he cared about protecting his family (he has two kids too young to be vaccinated) he would get the shots. He was so angry he didn't talk to me for weeks. Then he went to an outdoor wedding and of course had to take off his mask to eat. Five days later -- he had Covid. Now both his kids have fevers. Luckily his wife is vaccinated and has only minor break-through symptoms.

Does he regret not listening to us? No. Mostly he's still angry at us for "not respecting his views." WTF, my husband and I are MDs! But that wasn't good enough for him.

It's now almost two weeks out and thank god he will probably get through this OK. His p02s have been good. But this has driven such a wedge between us. I keep hearing that phrase 'you need to respect my view" from a lot of vaccine-hesitant people. It seems to be their mantra -- that they don't feel respected.

If there are other parents who are going through this, my deepest sympathies. We impart our best wisdom, but we can't make our kids listen.

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I'm so sorry to hear this! I too hope he gets through this OK. DickKessler Aug 2021 #1
Kind Words leftieNanner Aug 2021 #75
A good friend of mine was cut off by one of his children yesterday. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2021 #2
How sad and so unnecessary by him, I hope everyone gets through it OK. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2021 #3
Okay, put aside the vaccine talk gratuitous Aug 2021 #4
And, speaking of wills, lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #19
Draw their attention to this and maybe. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #82
I like it! babylonsister Aug 2021 #100
Sorry, Mainer. This will pass, and you'll move on to healing. Hortensis Aug 2021 #5
yes he's a very intelligent guy, but with different philosophies from us mainer Aug 2021 #11
No longer gets to be called a good and loving dad; he deliberately harmed his family. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #22
The problem is that people in this mental situation just don't see that. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #122
These people choose to watch toxic TV because they like toxic TV; it appeals to their lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #126
My son does not have an evil nature. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #129
IMHO seta1950 Aug 2021 #41
That's such a great reply. It starts with a compliment, so it's less harsh. I'm going to use it. amywalk Aug 2021 #51
This is hitting and breaking so many families. Our lovely DIL Hortensis Aug 2021 #42
I could never write off my own child, and I know you won't either. femmedem Aug 2021 #81
I don't need to respect... orwell Aug 2021 #6
Anti-vaxxers live in a world of alternative facts. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #30
True, we might have to accept that's their view, but we sure as hell don't have to respect it! louslobbs Aug 2021 #65
This isn't going to be a popular view. Mosby Aug 2021 #7
It's the older generations that voted Trump. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #9
They become the problem as they age maxsolomon Aug 2021 #23
Yes, that is one of the problems True Blue American Aug 2021 #107
Yeah, ok, but young people vote at much lower rates that 40+ Mosby Aug 2021 #26
That's been going on for a very long time. Mariana Aug 2021 #95
That is somewhat true. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #84
That second anecdote Moebym Aug 2021 #14
He deleted his original post. Mosby Aug 2021 #31
Don't blame the "self-esteem" movement. Grokenstein Aug 2021 #44
I know that. Mosby Aug 2021 #47
I agree with you that self-esteem movement has something to answer for greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #117
Some of them seem to think that being uneducated is a good thing. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2021 #112
I have thought this at times, too. wnylib Aug 2021 #69
You expressed this much better than me. Mosby Aug 2021 #88
I'm not on Twitter, but I do read wnylib Aug 2021 #92
Right, it's all the young people who vote for Trump kcr Aug 2021 #118
For different reasons Mosby Aug 2021 #119
You're both MDs and he won't listen to your views on vaccines?! SunSeeker Aug 2021 #8
Good point, one would think treestar Aug 2021 #57
When did this vaccine/masking issue become an issue of personal views and freedoms Moebym Aug 2021 #10
No idea. A pandemic is a COMMUNITY problem, and requires individuals to have... Beartracks Aug 2021 #106
Our daughter as well Just Jerome Aug 2021 #12
Welcome to DU, Just Jerome. Niagara Aug 2021 #35
We have the same problem with one of our daughters grantcart Aug 2021 #52
Actually, longer than a decade. luvtheGWN Aug 2021 #97
Might mention to her the development wasn't all that rapid... brush Aug 2021 #68
Yup, covered that.. Just Jerome Aug 2021 #71
I have a hard time "respecting the views" of anyone who doesn't respect my medical knowledge. Aristus Aug 2021 #13
Yeah, we may be medical doctors but we're just mom and dad mainer Aug 2021 #18
Excellent points Ishoutandscream2 Aug 2021 #34
I'm in the same boat with my son. And I dread your scenario. Probatim Aug 2021 #15
Sadly, he doesn't deserve your respect. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #16
They don't feel respected because THEY AREN'T RESPECTED! Because their views are moronic! Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #17
We do not owe assholes I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #20
If one's views are based on logic, reason and scientific fact, they should be respected. iscooterliberally Aug 2021 #21
He's entitled to his own view, but not his own facts. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #24
He has unfortunately fallen prey to what Isaac Asimov refers to as the strain smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #48
Be interesting to see what his viewpoint will be in 20-30 years. roamer65 Aug 2021 #25
Of course you're right, and your son KNOWS it FakeNoose Aug 2021 #27
One of my great nieces is listening to her ignorant boyfriend malaise Aug 2021 #28
Know who else didn't "respect his views"? The virus. hatrack Aug 2021 #29
Sounds like your son has an outside influence and is listening to RW talking points. Niagara Aug 2021 #32
I guess if he wanted to sacrifice his children and you objected, he would expect you to respect his LiberalArkie Aug 2021 #33
Yeah, that's where I ticked him off. mainer Aug 2021 #40
And now he infected his kids, yet still insist he has a view point LisaL Aug 2021 #55
My daughter got her second jab yesterday. I hope your son gets better, and I hope you can all heal. BoomaofBandM Aug 2021 #36
It has nothing to do with age, but a large segment of the population halfulglas Aug 2021 #37
Sorry, mainer. I feel you. I have a daughter who thinks she can ancianita Aug 2021 #38
I'm sure there will be lots of PhDs/research studies on what COVID does to the already addled brain erronis Aug 2021 #39
non-XX syndrome! femmedem Aug 2021 #79
My daughter and son are anti-vax trumpets thanks to my goofball ex. mobeau69 Aug 2021 #43
So sorry about this cally Aug 2021 #45
So sorry fellow Mainer jpak Aug 2021 #46
I hope your son will be back in good health. BeckyDem Aug 2021 #49
Wrestling with the same dilemma w my two adult children. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #50
Thank you for this post Cairycat Aug 2021 #53
He gave people permission to be their worst selves. deurbano Aug 2021 #62
There are no views that *HAVE* to be respected The Mouth Aug 2021 #54
Hope he is ok, I weep for the future RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #56
How awful for you and your son! shanti Aug 2021 #58
Thank you. It's sad that I have so much company. mainer Aug 2021 #63
I am surprised there are so many of us here on this thread. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #124
Best wishes for you all. Hopefully he will come around after he's recovered. If not, not sure what Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #59
The politicization of a disease is splitting families, including mine. I'm so very sorry, Mainer... Hekate Aug 2021 #60
you as a parent need to keep loving him Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2021 #61
So sorry you are going through this. Botany Aug 2021 #64
I'll give you the PG-13 version of what I say to people Downtown Hound Aug 2021 #66
My wife and I are in a similar situation with our daughter. overleft Aug 2021 #67
I feel for you. I also had a son who was reluctant. pnwmom Aug 2021 #70
Sorry mainer leighbythesea2 Aug 2021 #72
Well, he is an adult and he is entitled to his views, even those you disagree with. Dan Aug 2021 #73
''Science Is Not Just a Matter of Opinion'' Donkees Aug 2021 #74
if someone has views that are patently wrong they deserve no respect. GumboYaYa Aug 2021 #76
It's not only conservative influences. A friend's moonscape Aug 2021 #77
Sad DownriverDem Aug 2021 #78
My daughter and son in law. My grandchildren will not be allowed to get it either. They don't have onecaliberal Aug 2021 #80
You don't respect his views? LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #83
That was my thought as well. It works both ways: thucythucy Aug 2021 #113
I'm tired of hearing how WE who are striving and struggling to do it right calimary Aug 2021 #85
I am so sorry mountain grammy Aug 2021 #86
It's hard to 'respect his view' when it's not only wrong in every sense, but it can be fatal. spanone Aug 2021 #87
Does he respect the views of flat earthers?... myccrider Aug 2021 #89
My wife shudders when she hears me say: I respect your decision Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #90
I'll never "respect" anybody's right to be wrong Dukkha Aug 2021 #91
Sympathy for all of you Wild blueberry Aug 2021 #93
You son is a dipshit. Hope this is a learning experience for him. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2021 #94
My son is a COVIDIOT 2abigbman Aug 2021 #96
My son is caught up in this "clean eating" fad and refuses the vaccine because of it. Grasswire2 Aug 2021 #98
I have been told something very similar by someone close to me but it was more like this boston bean Aug 2021 #99
"Vaccines are the victim of their own success." Cassidy Aug 2021 #101
Some "views" do not deserve respect. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #102
If I happen to fall into one of these discussions, Jetheels Aug 2021 #103
This doesn't help one bit, but you are not alone. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #104
In the same boat here catchnrelease Aug 2021 #105
He'd rather be "right" than "correct" and to have respect is important to him. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #108
Ugh I'm sorry. róisín_dubh Aug 2021 #109
The ultimate irony-woman who smokes 1.5 packs a day is concerned LisaL Aug 2021 #123
Not only that, Cigarette manufactures put all sorts of stuff in their products haele Aug 2021 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author haele Aug 2021 #128
With all due respect to you and yours OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #110
Tragically common sense and "for the common good" Boomerproud Aug 2021 #111
Ain't that the truth! OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #125
The only thing that will get them vaccinated is mandates. zanana1 Aug 2021 #114
Some people (incredibly, to me) just do not care about catching it. Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #115
The problem. is... AmBlue Aug 2021 #116
You know who else doesn't respect his views? Covid. That's who. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #120
I also have an adult son who won't get the vaccine. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #121
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