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Mosby

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119. For different reasons

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:16 PM

Aug 2021

Last edited Fri Aug 27, 2021, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

The Republicans I know who refuse the vax it's because they believe conspiracy theories or want to own the libs. The young people I know who don't want to get it it's because they don't trust the science, in other words they are relying on uniformed opinions.

This is anecdotal, but I work with around 120 fellow employees, mostly young people and a few older than me. I have talked at length with many, and have been able to convince a few to get vaxxed. The holdouts are very stubborn, and convinced that their reasoning is correct.

The store I work at has had almost a dozen cases so far, a couple were delta. One was hospitalized for a couple weeks.

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My son said I didn't respect his views. Now he has COVID. [View all] mainer Aug 2021 OP

I'm so sorry to hear this! I too hope he gets through this OK. DickKessler Aug 2021 #1

Kind Words leftieNanner Aug 2021 #75

A good friend of mine was cut off by one of his children yesterday. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2021 #2

How sad and so unnecessary by him, I hope everyone gets through it OK. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2021 #3

Okay, put aside the vaccine talk gratuitous Aug 2021 #4

And, speaking of wills, lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #19

Draw their attention to this and maybe. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #82

I like it! babylonsister Aug 2021 #100

Sorry, Mainer. This will pass, and you'll move on to healing. Hortensis Aug 2021 #5

yes he's a very intelligent guy, but with different philosophies from us mainer Aug 2021 #11

No longer gets to be called a good and loving dad; he deliberately harmed his family. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #22

The problem is that people in this mental situation just don't see that. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #122

These people choose to watch toxic TV because they like toxic TV; it appeals to their lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #126

My son does not have an evil nature. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #129

IMHO seta1950 Aug 2021 #41

That's such a great reply. It starts with a compliment, so it's less harsh. I'm going to use it. amywalk Aug 2021 #51

This is hitting and breaking so many families. Our lovely DIL Hortensis Aug 2021 #42

I could never write off my own child, and I know you won't either. femmedem Aug 2021 #81

I don't need to respect... orwell Aug 2021 #6

Anti-vaxxers live in a world of alternative facts. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #30

True, we might have to accept that's their view, but we sure as hell don't have to respect it! louslobbs Aug 2021 #65

This isn't going to be a popular view. Mosby Aug 2021 #7

It's the older generations that voted Trump. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #9

They become the problem as they age maxsolomon Aug 2021 #23

Yes, that is one of the problems True Blue American Aug 2021 #107

Yeah, ok, but young people vote at much lower rates that 40+ Mosby Aug 2021 #26

That's been going on for a very long time. Mariana Aug 2021 #95

That is somewhat true. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #84

That second anecdote Moebym Aug 2021 #14

He deleted his original post. Mosby Aug 2021 #31

Don't blame the "self-esteem" movement. Grokenstein Aug 2021 #44

I know that. Mosby Aug 2021 #47

I agree with you that self-esteem movement has something to answer for greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #117

Some of them seem to think that being uneducated is a good thing. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2021 #112

I have thought this at times, too. wnylib Aug 2021 #69

You expressed this much better than me. Mosby Aug 2021 #88

I'm not on Twitter, but I do read wnylib Aug 2021 #92

Right, it's all the young people who vote for Trump kcr Aug 2021 #118

For different reasons Mosby Aug 2021 #119

You're both MDs and he won't listen to your views on vaccines?! SunSeeker Aug 2021 #8

Good point, one would think treestar Aug 2021 #57

When did this vaccine/masking issue become an issue of personal views and freedoms Moebym Aug 2021 #10

No idea. A pandemic is a COMMUNITY problem, and requires individuals to have... Beartracks Aug 2021 #106

Our daughter as well Just Jerome Aug 2021 #12

Welcome to DU, Just Jerome. Niagara Aug 2021 #35

We have the same problem with one of our daughters grantcart Aug 2021 #52

Actually, longer than a decade. luvtheGWN Aug 2021 #97

Might mention to her the development wasn't all that rapid... brush Aug 2021 #68

Yup, covered that.. Just Jerome Aug 2021 #71

I have a hard time "respecting the views" of anyone who doesn't respect my medical knowledge. Aristus Aug 2021 #13

Yeah, we may be medical doctors but we're just mom and dad mainer Aug 2021 #18

Excellent points Ishoutandscream2 Aug 2021 #34

I'm in the same boat with my son. And I dread your scenario. Probatim Aug 2021 #15

Sadly, he doesn't deserve your respect. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #16

They don't feel respected because THEY AREN'T RESPECTED! Because their views are moronic! Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #17

We do not owe assholes I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #20

If one's views are based on logic, reason and scientific fact, they should be respected. iscooterliberally Aug 2021 #21

He's entitled to his own view, but not his own facts. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #24

He has unfortunately fallen prey to what Isaac Asimov refers to as the strain smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #48

Be interesting to see what his viewpoint will be in 20-30 years. roamer65 Aug 2021 #25

Of course you're right, and your son KNOWS it FakeNoose Aug 2021 #27

One of my great nieces is listening to her ignorant boyfriend malaise Aug 2021 #28

Know who else didn't "respect his views"? The virus. hatrack Aug 2021 #29

Sounds like your son has an outside influence and is listening to RW talking points. Niagara Aug 2021 #32

I guess if he wanted to sacrifice his children and you objected, he would expect you to respect his LiberalArkie Aug 2021 #33

Yeah, that's where I ticked him off. mainer Aug 2021 #40

And now he infected his kids, yet still insist he has a view point LisaL Aug 2021 #55

My daughter got her second jab yesterday. I hope your son gets better, and I hope you can all heal. BoomaofBandM Aug 2021 #36

It has nothing to do with age, but a large segment of the population halfulglas Aug 2021 #37

Sorry, mainer. I feel you. I have a daughter who thinks she can ancianita Aug 2021 #38

I'm sure there will be lots of PhDs/research studies on what COVID does to the already addled brain erronis Aug 2021 #39

non-XX syndrome! femmedem Aug 2021 #79

My daughter and son are anti-vax trumpets thanks to my goofball ex. mobeau69 Aug 2021 #43

So sorry about this cally Aug 2021 #45

So sorry fellow Mainer jpak Aug 2021 #46

I hope your son will be back in good health. BeckyDem Aug 2021 #49

Wrestling with the same dilemma w my two adult children. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #50

Thank you for this post Cairycat Aug 2021 #53

He gave people permission to be their worst selves. deurbano Aug 2021 #62

There are no views that *HAVE* to be respected The Mouth Aug 2021 #54

Hope he is ok, I weep for the future RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #56

How awful for you and your son! shanti Aug 2021 #58

Thank you. It's sad that I have so much company. mainer Aug 2021 #63

I am surprised there are so many of us here on this thread. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #124

Best wishes for you all. Hopefully he will come around after he's recovered. If not, not sure what Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #59

The politicization of a disease is splitting families, including mine. I'm so very sorry, Mainer... Hekate Aug 2021 #60

you as a parent need to keep loving him Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2021 #61

So sorry you are going through this. Botany Aug 2021 #64

I'll give you the PG-13 version of what I say to people Downtown Hound Aug 2021 #66

My wife and I are in a similar situation with our daughter. overleft Aug 2021 #67

I feel for you. I also had a son who was reluctant. pnwmom Aug 2021 #70

Sorry mainer leighbythesea2 Aug 2021 #72

Well, he is an adult and he is entitled to his views, even those you disagree with. Dan Aug 2021 #73

''Science Is Not Just a Matter of Opinion'' Donkees Aug 2021 #74

if someone has views that are patently wrong they deserve no respect. GumboYaYa Aug 2021 #76

It's not only conservative influences. A friend's moonscape Aug 2021 #77

Sad DownriverDem Aug 2021 #78

My daughter and son in law. My grandchildren will not be allowed to get it either. They don't have onecaliberal Aug 2021 #80

You don't respect his views? LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #83

That was my thought as well. It works both ways: thucythucy Aug 2021 #113

I'm tired of hearing how WE who are striving and struggling to do it right calimary Aug 2021 #85

I am so sorry mountain grammy Aug 2021 #86

It's hard to 'respect his view' when it's not only wrong in every sense, but it can be fatal. spanone Aug 2021 #87

Does he respect the views of flat earthers?... myccrider Aug 2021 #89

My wife shudders when she hears me say: I respect your decision Xipe Totec Aug 2021 #90

I'll never "respect" anybody's right to be wrong Dukkha Aug 2021 #91

Sympathy for all of you Wild blueberry Aug 2021 #93

You son is a dipshit. Hope this is a learning experience for him. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2021 #94

My son is a COVIDIOT 2abigbman Aug 2021 #96

My son is caught up in this "clean eating" fad and refuses the vaccine because of it. Grasswire2 Aug 2021 #98

I have been told something very similar by someone close to me but it was more like this boston bean Aug 2021 #99

"Vaccines are the victim of their own success." Cassidy Aug 2021 #101

Some "views" do not deserve respect. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #102

If I happen to fall into one of these discussions, Jetheels Aug 2021 #103

This doesn't help one bit, but you are not alone. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #104

In the same boat here catchnrelease Aug 2021 #105

He'd rather be "right" than "correct" and to have respect is important to him. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #108

Ugh I'm sorry. róisín_dubh Aug 2021 #109

The ultimate irony-woman who smokes 1.5 packs a day is concerned LisaL Aug 2021 #123

Not only that, Cigarette manufactures put all sorts of stuff in their products haele Aug 2021 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author haele Aug 2021 #128

With all due respect to you and yours OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #110

Tragically common sense and "for the common good" Boomerproud Aug 2021 #111

Ain't that the truth! OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #125

The only thing that will get them vaccinated is mandates. zanana1 Aug 2021 #114

Some people (incredibly, to me) just do not care about catching it. Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #115

The problem. is... AmBlue Aug 2021 #116

You know who else doesn't respect his views? Covid. That's who. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #120

I also have an adult son who won't get the vaccine. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #121