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54. What interest would the federal government have in this case?

Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:51 PM

Nov 2021

A group of idiots, all white, looking for trouble, got into a street fight, guns were involved, and some of them were killed. The state tried to make a case out of it, and failed.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 OP

Probably not. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #1

Can the victims families sue civilly? WhiteTara Nov 2021 #4

Maybe the families of the victims can set up a go-fund me (like the Rittenhouse supporters did) Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #16

They not only can but probably will. Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #18

On what grounds? pinkstarburst Nov 2021 #28

Sure, but they risk being responsible for his legal fees madville Nov 2021 #40

Guess the only way to find out for sure would be to test it in court Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #15

More likely charge, if charged federally, is violation of civil rights IMO. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #2

All involved are white Devil Child Nov 2021 #6

Political beliefs are considered in some states. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #22

I tend to agree with your assertion "More likely charge...is violation of civil rights..." Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #7

the only possible place would be under WhiteTara Nov 2021 #8

Political affiliation is not a protected class re: civil rights violation Devil Child Nov 2021 #10

thanks. WhiteTara Nov 2021 #11

Political affiliation is possibly the basis for a charge of federal hate crime. Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #23

No Zeitghost Nov 2021 #3

That said he was found not guilty at the state level... Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #5

Double Jeopardy isn't the issue Zeitghost Nov 2021 #9

"Even if his actions had been found to be unlawful, it still isn't terrorism" Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #13

Don't get civil and criminal charges confused. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #17

You're reaching and you know it Zeitghost Nov 2021 #21

I will politely add the illegally concealed Glock Devil Child Nov 2021 #26

Doesn't matter what their history was; did Rittenhouse know about it? Ocelot II Nov 2021 #29

+1000 Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #33

Rittehouse certainly knew about the illegally concealed glock when it was drawn on him Devil Child Nov 2021 #37

If we were discussing a criminal case Zeitghost Nov 2021 #42

Do you have a reference you could cite for those Sogo Nov 2021 #27

Yes Zeitghost Nov 2021 #34

Rosenbaum was a child rapist Devil Child Nov 2021 #38

Huber Devil Child Nov 2021 #48

Rittenhouse didn't go to Kenosha with a list of "priors" for everyone demonstrating. He shot... George II Nov 2021 #30

+1000 Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #32

You are right Zeitghost Nov 2021 #35

Bingo, that point seems to be lost on many n/t Devil Child Nov 2021 #39

With the past being admissible... DiamondShark Nov 2021 #64

Well here in Canada, the Proudboys are indeed a Federally-designated terrorist organization Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #31

Taking a selfie in a bar Zeitghost Nov 2021 #36

Too bad you can't tell the difference asking a question and "reaching" Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #44

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This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #49

This isn't Canada n/t Devil Child Nov 2021 #50

And yet everyone (in both countries) has the right to free speech regardless of citizenship n/t Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #52

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There is no way the shooter could have known about the (completely irrelevant)history of his victims Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #53

And I didn't know about the alleged history of Rittenhouse' victims either until this thread. Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #57

I doubt it would work, especially since the Feds... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #14

See above. There is no civil cause of action for terrorism, so it doesn't matter Ocelot II Nov 2021 #19

Sorry if I wasn't clear,yes state/federal terrorism charges are a separate issue from the civil suit Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #25

If they want to try, then they should go for it. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #20

This Zeitghost Nov 2021 #45

We frown against Zeitghost Nov 2021 #47

I doubt it. SYFROYH Nov 2021 #24

Doubt the feds will try any of that madville Nov 2021 #41

He'd still use self defense treestar Nov 2021 #43

Because in Canada Proudboys are indeed a terrorist organization. Don't know what the US law is in Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #55

"terrorist organization" treestar Nov 2021 #58

It will be a long and fruitless search. Devil Child Nov 2021 #59

Do you know where to find the domestic designations list? treestar Nov 2021 #61

I wish I could but no such designation exists Devil Child Nov 2021 #62

Oh, OK so they just aren't "designated" treestar Nov 2021 #65

What interest would the federal government have in this case? Steelrolled Nov 2021 #54

So right wing vigilante violence OK in the US. Got it. Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #56

no you're just obsessed with calling something "terrorism" treestar Nov 2021 #60

Nope. I'm not saying that at all and you don't get to put words in my mouth. Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #63

check out your post title treestar Nov 2021 #66

No,I'm saying a jury in state of WI already decided that murder charges do not apply in this case Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #67

I am not sure Meowmee Nov 2021 #68