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RoadRising

(31 posts)
44. You may be right but ...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:48 AM
Dec 2021

... be careful.

I have a daughter who is a school social worker working with seriously at-risk kids in Chicago and one who is a school psychologist in CO.

We don’t know yet exactly what was said in that meeting, and we don’t know what constraints school personnel are working under. Each district is different, and there are a lot of rules and limits.

My daughters frequently face having to make calls on the degree of threat a student presents, and they work under strict rules and procedures. Many angry students issue threats, nearly all are benign. School professionals - underpaid, overworked and probably paying off usurious student loans for the Masters degrees they were required to have - live with the pressure of making the wrong call.

This case certainly sounds like there were enough bright red flags that school personnel could be held liable in civil litigation. But I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for now.

They might not as openly support them as they did with Rittenhouse but I think they will be JI7 Dec 2021 #1
I agree... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #5
Yeah. Can't have any Democrat heroes. And a female one at that. She should be in the kitchen bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #9
I was just scrolling through... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #12
+1 llmart Dec 2021 #11
I agree totally. One phone call to the insurance carrier and Ethan would have no_hypocrisy Dec 2021 #2
The school will be sued by the parents of the victims. panader0 Dec 2021 #3
The Congress Critters won't say shit. BradAllison Dec 2021 #4
School culpability is mixed. Thus, despite the teacher doing the right things, the DA did not hlthe2b Dec 2021 #6
But those are the two things that led to the slaughter of innocents and innocence malaise Dec 2021 #10
Yes. I'm agreeing with you. hlthe2b Dec 2021 #15
Yes - if I were a teacher or administrator of a school malaise Dec 2021 #19
Admin, yes. snpsmom Dec 2021 #56
Agree - the teacher tried malaise Dec 2021 #60
Ditto! BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #81
I bet there's a lot of parents in this country Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #82
And that may well be true but they were called in because their son malaise Dec 2021 #85
Yeah, I'd sure like to be able to watch a video Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #87
in loco parentis bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #7
But the mental problems were on paper malaise Dec 2021 #13
As a mental health professional Sunsky Dec 2021 #36
I get asked that every appointment... NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #41
Oh yes Sunsky Dec 2021 #46
I wonder how much local culture influences that line of questioning/investigation. Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #61
Yes I wonder if the school asked about the child's access to weapons. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #67
Those are valid points Sunsky Dec 2021 #77
In Retrospect sure but. . . ogsball Dec 2021 #8
And if the teacher had seen him searching online for info about ammo.... TheRickles Dec 2021 #16
I'm not sure what he said during the interview, but they sure could have janterry Dec 2021 #14
He is clearly a kid in crisis and I am in no position to call him evil malaise Dec 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2021 #24
My thoughts on this llmart Dec 2021 #17
Thanks for this malaise Dec 2021 #25
I do not understand why he wasn't suspended and the parents forced to take him home. madaboutharry Dec 2021 #18
Precisely malaise Dec 2021 #26
It is not your day though Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #48
There can be legitimate reasons to cut back on suspending students. cab67 Dec 2021 #52
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #90
Kid should have been IVCd for a full psych eval immediately SheltieLover Dec 2021 #20
I agree. LisaL Dec 2021 #21
I wonder if they would have responded quickly enough, though. Ilsa Dec 2021 #34
Which is why his backpack should have been searched malaise Dec 2021 #38
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #42
Police would have SheltieLover Dec 2021 #40
I wonder if the principal and other staff were intimidated by the parents, or were Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #65
Could be, but the images he drew SheltieLover Dec 2021 #69
This makes the case for having school counselors tulipsandroses Dec 2021 #22
Good post malaise Dec 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2021 #28
Ridiculous. Banning books in schools but not guns? Walleye Dec 2021 #29
Been there done that. gordianot Dec 2021 #31
We have more "school resource officers" snpsmom Dec 2021 #59
The right wing will have problems with this JI7 Dec 2021 #91
That was said on the ABC evening news last night left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 #30
Good to hear malaise Dec 2021 #33
Frank Figliusi explained the real problem, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #32
The real problem is access to guns malaise Dec 2021 #35
I agree 100%, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #50
OK got it malaise Dec 2021 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2021 #63
Schools have law enforcement on site LeftInTX Dec 2021 #88
Too had he wasn't a girl in a short skirt Effete Snob Dec 2021 #37
or a book on slavery malaise Dec 2021 #39
It's hit the fan, thank God arlyellowdog Dec 2021 #43
You may be right but ... RoadRising Dec 2021 #44
I read that the school wanted the parents to take the kid home and they refused ... marble falls Dec 2021 #45
I'm not disagreeing with your post. I've heard the same thing about the parents refusing to take liberalla Dec 2021 #68
+1 leftstreet Dec 2021 #75
Seems like the teacher was on the ball but the administration didn't follow through Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #47
Remember this is 2021 and Michigan. plimsoll Dec 2021 #49
Mug Shots Tell A Story FrankTC Dec 2021 #51
Please remember that we're all pinkstarburst Dec 2021 #53
Thanks for the reminder, pinkstarburst. crickets Dec 2021 #76
Valid points malaise Dec 2021 #83
Valid points malaise Dec 2021 #84
This is problematic. Calling police every time a school finds a violent drawing Azathoth Dec 2021 #54
I think the words he wrote, like "help me" and "thoughts won't stop" showed a clear need for Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #64
There are police on campus...Contact the campus police and search the backpack LeftInTX Dec 2021 #86
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2021 #55
And there are biological vessels posing as parents with no more parenting skill as in the Oxford cas malaise Dec 2021 #71
ask your son if the backpack could be searched under the law. Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #89
...K&R... spanone Dec 2021 #57
It shows that the school did not identify Ethan as an imminent threat. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #58
How could the school force the parents to take their child home? Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #66
They should have done that malaise Dec 2021 #72
They should have done that malaise Dec 2021 #73
I agree definitely about the backpack. shrike3 Dec 2021 #70
Once a precise time line is drafted the errors will be even more striking. BeckyDem Dec 2021 #74
At the very least the school should have suspended the boy CrispyQ Dec 2021 #78
The school seemed to be the only ones that actually C-A-R-E-D!!! tenderfoot Dec 2021 #79
The teacher who reported him cared malaise Dec 2021 #80
The school has now posted a response pinkstarburst Dec 2021 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2021 #93
This and what Wingus Dingus posted at #36 malaise Dec 2021 #94
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