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Beastly Boy

(9,509 posts)
41. Yes, the voters.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:20 PM
Jan 2022

Don't plead ignorance. You know full well about the Electoral College. You may not like it, but unless WE vote for enough candidates to change the rules, we are all bound by existing rules. And when you go back to 2016, be mindful of ALL of the reasons Hillary lost. Let me help your recollection by reminding you of a few oft repeated phrases directed at Hillary I encountered here on DU: "neo-liberal", "third way", "incrementalist", "establishment". They were repeated as reasons to vote against her. And lo and behold, a full 12% of those who voted for Bernie in the primary, voted for Trump in the general election. The opposition to Hillary's candidacy from the left turned out to be incredibly near-sighted and incredibly damaging. And before you tell me this is ancient history, the way we the voters turned out (or didn't) in 2016 is directly responsible for the rise of Trumpism. Not our fault? I beg to disagree.

Oh boy indeed! Do you still insist that us outvoting the GOP, by whatever margin in popular vote, in any way absolves us the voters from responsibility? We failed to sway the electoral college, and that's the only thing that counts. You have an impossible argument to defend, and you are not even trying.

didn't like the both sides thing, though I understand he couldn't do otherwise Kali Jan 2022 #1
It was a speech because he had to say something. Mueller gave a few too. Hoyt Jan 2022 #2
Yep, look at the pressure it took off him. Remember when Rosenstien announced Mueller dem4decades Jan 2022 #8
Talk is cheap but effective at simmering down criticisms. JanMichael Jan 2022 #33
When Laurence Tribe is upset.... And his voice was shaking vanlassie Jan 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #10
Neither did Garland specifically address the days after Jan. 6 Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #13
The point Tribe was making was broader than that drray23 Jan 2022 #14
And Garland addressed his point Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #18
Saw this Bayard Jan 2022 #22
I didn't hear a both sides do it. At all. And I've listened twice. Hamlette Jan 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #7
It was the exact time and place to be subtle... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #19
That's one persons opinion. I have one too. Chin music Jan 2022 #21
DOJ is focused on law not opinion dwayneb Jan 2022 #28
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Garland was technically correct in context uponit7771 Jan 2022 #34
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"It's not to much to ask for reassurances." 👈🏾 !! I'm telling people this morning that Watergate uponit7771 Jan 2022 #36
How do you interpret the quote? leftstreet Jan 2022 #11
It's a true statement - so what? dwayneb Jan 2022 #29
Good point, America is 3rd largest populated country on Earth of course there's going to be ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #37
Didn't realize he was investigating acts from the 60s leftstreet Jan 2022 #39
Missed the both sides thing. I guess you have to say it even if one side is 85% responsible applegrove Jan 2022 #5
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I thought it was very good and he is going after whoever was involved doc03 Jan 2022 #9
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None of the above. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #15
Are you kidding? We were attacked and those of us who are still angry and traumatized ecstatic Jan 2022 #17
The only people who "deserve" Garland's updates all work for DOJ. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #20
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I argued earlier that ultimately, January 6 is on America's voters. Same goes for DOJ staff. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #38
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Yes, the voters. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #41
I completely agree with you dwayneb Jan 2022 #32
None of the above. I don't care about a speech. ecstatic Jan 2022 #16
+1 Very well said. Earth-shine Jan 2022 #24
Didn't watch it ColinC Jan 2022 #23
I wanted to hear TFG is under arrest Emile Jan 2022 #26
If you read between the lines, that are between the lines... SKKY Jan 2022 #27
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