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brooklynite

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Thu Apr 28, 2022, 01:00 PM Apr 2022

Is Elon Musk Really That Bad? [View all]

New York Times

Elon Musk is hard to love. Elon Musk is hard to like. On his way to becoming the world’s wealthiest person, Musk has emitted so many metric tons of self-indulgent puerility he might have violated the Paris Accords.

But one need not find Musk personally or politically appealing to appreciate that his contributions to humanity could end up being profound.

Through his endeavors in solar power and electric cars, Musk might do more to combat climate change than just about any lefty environmental activist or politician you can name. Musk looks even better when judged against other globe-straddling billionaires in his orbit. His is not an empire built on inheritance, dumb luck, monopoly or, subsidies notwithstanding, insider access. Indeed, his businesses seek to undermine some of the most harmful and politically entrenched industries on the planet, among them defense contractors, utilities, oil companies and combustion-engine automakers.

There is also something straightforwardly inspiring about Musk’s story. After a troubled childhood in South Africa, he immigrated first to Canada and then to the United States, put himself through college and made his own fortune through unending hard work and in pursuit of ambitions far grander than slapping “like” buttons all over the web. Even Musk’s bluster is excusable because underneath the big talk he has repeatedly delivered on his far-out promises. He makes innovative products that work well, that delight customers and that are on balance probably good for the world. Isn’t that the best one can hope for from capitalism?
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Is Elon Musk Really That Bad? [View all] brooklynite Apr 2022 OP
Elon? Is that you? N/T Jm7603 Apr 2022 #1
Or his mom. cbabe Apr 2022 #2
Farhad Manjoo... brooklynite Apr 2022 #5
Truth matters not. Musk is wealthy, odd, autistic, Ghislaine Maxwell photobombed him at a Vanity Aff Hoyt Apr 2022 #3
It's not based on nothing. No concern for employees Jm7603 Apr 2022 #11
Mostly BS. Hoyt Apr 2022 #12
Well thought out answer. Jm7603 Apr 2022 #15
As was your post. Not a citation to support anything. Hoyt Apr 2022 #19
LOL! Like whoever you like, dislike whoever you Jm7603 Apr 2022 #24
Well we agree. Hoyt Apr 2022 #26
Onward to more important subjects! Have a great day! Jm7603 Apr 2022 #28
How about when he stiffed the World Food Programme? Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #34
He did give $5.7 B a few weeks later. Unlike some, he didn't make a big deal about it. Chronicle of Hoyt Apr 2022 #46
As of yesterday there was no accounting of that money. CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #54
He doesn't owe you an explosion. It'll do good. Hoyt Apr 2022 #57
I didn't ask for an explosion....? CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #61
Doesn't change the fact that he welshed on his challenge Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #56
You actually don't know that, the money may be going to WFP. Hoyt Apr 2022 #58
Or he donated it to a charity he controls questionseverything Apr 2022 #68
These gifts Doremus Apr 2022 #71
So? He's a young man, got plenty of time. Here he is with Obama. Hoyt Apr 2022 #73
So? Doremus Apr 2022 #90
I hate the guy AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #96
That's not what happened AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #97
I don't give a fuck who you hate Diablo del sol Apr 2022 #82
You can hate who you want. I like the guy, Obama did too. Hoyt Apr 2022 #87
Obama also way under estimated how big of assholes Repukes can be Diablo del sol Apr 2022 #89
Obama talked to him, doubt he liked him Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #101
Musk maxed out his contributions to Obama. That's a fact. Hoyt Apr 2022 #102
So? He gave almost 10x more to the Republican Congressional Committee in the same cycle. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #104
Don't think your "10 X" is close to accurate. I do know SpaceX PAC gave more Hoyt Apr 2022 #105
I provided you with a link, ffs. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #106
I see lots of Democrats on your list. Haven't loaded it into Excel to sort Hoyt Apr 2022 #107
Clearly you can't do math. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #109
That's not the only campaign to which Musk or his companies contributed. Hoyt Apr 2022 #110
Hardly "cherry-picking" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #111
You need to look at overall data on his political contributions, not just a small Hoyt Apr 2022 #112
I did. Apparently you didn't or can't? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #113
The data is not "10X." Hoyt Apr 2022 #114
Yes, it is. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #115
He could be worse, I suppose, Farhad Manjoo. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #4
Yes, there definitely is something lacking with this guy PatSeg Apr 2022 #18
Oh, Where to Begin? MineralMan Apr 2022 #6
Plus racist. cbabe Apr 2022 #7
+1. You can't take the apartheid out of Elon Musk dalton99a Apr 2022 #31
Yep, no way I'd think I'd get a fair share in Tesla after Musk said this (link) and didn't rephrase uponit7771 Apr 2022 #39
What exactly has Musk done to save energy yet. standingtall Apr 2022 #38
Good question. MineralMan Apr 2022 #45
He supported the coup in Bolivia Blues Heron Apr 2022 #8
"We had so much money at times we couldn't even close our safe." Errol Musk sarcasmo Apr 2022 #9
So much for the Horatio Alger bio PatSeg Apr 2022 #20
Vaporware salesman exboyfil Apr 2022 #10
"Vaporware salesman" SpaceX is the real deal EX500rider Apr 2022 #108
Just don't. dchill Apr 2022 #13
So I should just print this out and put it next to my Bible, Quran, and Bhagavad Gita, yes? ck4829 Apr 2022 #14
YES! If he were poor, he would still be who he is. Wealthy just makes him more dangerous. See it! Samrob Apr 2022 #16
Nobody gets rich I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #17
J.K. Rowling. brooklynite Apr 2022 #29
...is a transphobic bigot. Rob H. Apr 2022 #30
Has nothing to do with her becoming rich. brooklynite Apr 2022 #43
Yes, it does Rob H. Apr 2022 #47
The last Harry Potter book came out in 2007. Jedi Guy Apr 2022 #60
Money is power in capitalism I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #75
Transphobe monster... I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #74
He is a creep, imho boston bean Apr 2022 #21
He is a trollish, loutish, bully - among the worst of the super billionaires. Beakybird Apr 2022 #22
Success - or elevation to visibly prominent places - requires egocentrism bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #23
Musk is an idiosyncratic man-child, but a smart one, a person of great potential and dangerous andym Apr 2022 #25
Exactly. Hoyt Apr 2022 #27
well stated Redleg Apr 2022 #33
Nice summary. StarryNite Apr 2022 #37
+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2022 #51
Everyone with money and power is dangerous. Bucky Apr 2022 #66
Maybe a benevolent Oligarch? Democracy is so passee these days. jalan48 Apr 2022 #32
Fuck ogliarchy I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #76
I'm with you 100%! jalan48 Apr 2022 #91
Musk, his life, and his accomplishments will be studied by scholars for hundreds Calista241 Apr 2022 #35
Fan?? I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #77
Someone being a fan does not make Musk's accomplishments worth less. Calista241 Apr 2022 #92
And if musk is morally bankrupt I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #93
Good to know the Elon Musk altar is well maintained around these parts dalton99a Apr 2022 #36
To the guy he "SWATed" sure. To all the ass kissers who are easily impressed and mythologize Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #40
He's worse than his fans think and not as bad as his detractors believe. nt LexVegas Apr 2022 #41
He definitely helped kick start electric cars. He gets credit for that. tinrobot Apr 2022 #42
And NASA has hired him, It's constantly here. Sort of funny. USALiberal Apr 2022 #49
lol ok nt Torchlight Apr 2022 #53
Fix quote... " "Satire is traditionally the weapon of the powerless against the powerful." USALiberal Apr 2022 #63
Actually ford made the first electric cars I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #94
He's a piece of shit iemanja Apr 2022 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #99
Why isn't everyone whining about NASA hiring him? USALiberal Apr 2022 #48
I think he sucks up far more oxygen than he deserves too. 2Gingersnaps Apr 2022 #52
I believe the House should open an inquiry The Grand Illuminist Apr 2022 #50
I read that the republicans I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #78
Who were the major stock holders of Twitter womanofthehills Apr 2022 #84
shakingmyhead dot gif blogslug Apr 2022 #55
Well yes because we have a lectric car in every 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #59
He's already reduced the cost per kilo of getting to Low Earth Orbit by around 80% to 90%. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #62
Define who did that... I would lay money on the brilliant young engineers of Spacex... NOT Musk JCMach1 Apr 2022 #69
Christ. Those engineers would likely be writing gaming software, otherwise. Hoyt Apr 2022 #70
Not a fan, not going to change my mind on that JCMach1 Apr 2022 #88
Musk is a un-American fascist pos. I think he's un-American racist pos. rockfordfile Apr 2022 #64
"troubled childhood in South Africa" ... 😆😆😆😆 Bucky Apr 2022 #65
Maye Musk has discussed extensively how her Niagara Apr 2022 #103
YES! JCMach1 Apr 2022 #67
This is musk's idea of politics Mosby Apr 2022 #72
I just hope he sticks to engineering and doesn't try to get into politics! n/t AntiFascist Apr 2022 #79
He is already involved in politics I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #81
Elon Musk is NOT an engineer Galraedia Apr 2022 #85
He certainly must have some expertise in managing the actual engineers n/t AntiFascist Apr 2022 #86
He creates nothing I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #95
His little cartoon reveals how poor his mind is for the basics of engineering misanthrope Apr 2022 #100
What an asshole that guy is. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2022 #80
Yes ibegurpard Apr 2022 #83
Musk is a toxic tech-bro who was born with apartheid emeralds in his pockets. LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #98
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