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Yavin4

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15. There is no such thing as Paradise but there is such a thing as Hell.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:03 AM
May 2022

Definitely not arguing that Europe is some kind of paradise. Every nation has its problems.

The real question is which system works best for most people, and it's clearly obvious that multiple European systems work better than ours do. Our systems are Hell for most people. Our systems trap people in debt/poverty/obesity at the very start of their adulthoods even if they don't have children right away.

The larger difference is that most of Europe understands the need for vibrant investments in the total public infrastructure while we expect people to pay for everything themselves out of paltry wages that is mathematically impossible to pay for everything without going into some sort of debt, and in most cases serious debts.


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