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Showing Original Post only (View all)Car and Driver: The danger of keyless ignitions [View all]
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28222496/new-york-times-auto-shutoff-cars/Here's What the New York Times Didn't Say about the Danger of Keyless-Ignition Systems
The technology is convenient (if sometimes annoying), but it means drivers need to be more attentive to whether their engines are running.
A New York Times report tells the story of a couple who died of carbon-monoxide poisoning after their 2017 Toyota Avalon, equipped with a push-button keyless ignition, was mistakenly left running inside their garage.
The story outlines the problem of modern keyless-ignition systems that make it more difficult to be certain whether a car's engine is running.
NHTSA and SAE International have both recommended that warning systems be added to push-button ignition systems, but more driver attentiveness is a powerful remedy, too.
Are all the electronics in your car a good thing? When it comes to safety features such as anti-lock brakes and stability-control systems, the answer is yes. Convenience features like touchscreens, however, can add distraction and, at worst, can be dangerous. It's difficult to know where to draw the line, but the New York Times suggests in a recent story that keyless-ignition systems pose an overlooked risk because sometimes, the driver fails to switch the car off or doesn't realize it's still running. It's a follow-up to a larger investigation citing the dangers that can happen when you don't have to physically turn off a key to be sure your car is shut down.
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Neighbors down the street from my in-laws accidentally left their keyless car on.
Tommy Carcetti
Jun 2022
#14
I guess new cars can be started with the remote from inside the house. Nice if it's snowing out
ratchiweenie
Jun 2022
#39
In my wife's car the side traffic alert only beeps if the turn signal is on.
Tommy Carcetti
Jun 2022
#25
I have a Subie too. I have never had the brakes engage like that. My hubby has and
helpisontheway
Jun 2022
#111
My wife's car which I drive regularly is keyless, and after several years I still hate it.
Tommy Carcetti
Jun 2022
#6
You unlock the door by pulling the handle with your key fob on your person, and lock it by touching
fishwax
Jun 2022
#42
If it "could" be solved, it should have been solved before they killed any people with these systems
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#64
My husband is a PhD Engineer and he has always been concerned about the CO issue.
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#78
Not really. It's the combination. People don't unknowingly leave running cars with keys
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#65
How about a better reason is to add a Carbon monoxide detector in your house
USALiberal
Jun 2022
#36
My car beeps if I leave the engine on and open the door to get out. The only way I could
jalan48
Jun 2022
#40
I love my keyless ignition, especially when you have a couple bags of groceries
Meadowoak
Jun 2022
#43
Add CO detectors to cars. If the engine is running & CO level gets too high...
CaptainTruth
Jun 2022
#46
CO is very different from CO2. Reread the OP again, because not knowing can be deadly. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2022
#59
This article is three years old, and most manufacturers now have automatic shutoffs
fishwax
Jun 2022
#72
Did they recall all the vehicles that don't? More people drive used cars than new. n/t
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#73
I knew a family of 5 that were all poisoned by carbon monoxide in a different kind of accident,
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#98
You said: "We're not talking about a catastrophic failure that would affect you or other drivers on
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#100
exactly. And what about that sentence implies any lack of concern about the situation you describe?
fishwax
Jun 2022
#101
I disagree. The manufacturers should have spent $5 more per car to eliminate the problem.
pnwmom
Jun 2022
#90
My husband's hybrid is so quiet. You literally can't tell it is on. This is something to think about
helpisontheway
Jun 2022
#110