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Bettie

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94. Yes, agreed

Reply to rurallib (Reply #68)

Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:03 PM

Nov 2022

as soon as Dean was gone, there was no longer any outreach to rural counties.

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Okay.. the elections are done.. so now I will tell you about Iowa [View all] Peacetrain Nov 2022 OP

Yes, absolutely! SharonAnn Nov 2022 #1

Every State counts!! secondwind Nov 2022 #2

At least you're in "fly over country". We in Minnesota are in "north of fly over country" progree Nov 2022 #3

And yet, here we are. The writer was wrong, Minnesota did not almost go Red.... the_sly_pig Nov 2022 #116

Those in deep red areas.... Ohio Joe Nov 2022 #4

Texas needs help too. ananda Nov 2022 #5

This. The Dems won't invest here HelpImSurrounded Nov 2022 #17

A friend of mine has been running "The Lone Star Project" for decades DFW Nov 2022 #79

That's been my policy for awhile. ananda Nov 2022 #91

Iowa captive here ... not ecrtain it would have helped with the redrawn districts JT45242 Nov 2022 #6

I agree with much of your post, but Iowa is not gerrymandered rurallib Nov 2022 #65

I don't live iin Iowa, but I know you're right soldierant Nov 2022 #109

Point 1: We're not ignoring "flyover country" brooklynite Nov 2022 #7

Then why was Dean successful with the 50-state strategy? Gore1FL Nov 2022 #11

what's the evidence for it working under Dean? LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #14

2006 and 2008. nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #15

2008 had a lot of other factors behind it than Dean. LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #16

Let's look at the bookends Gore1FL Nov 2022 #19

You left something out. brooklynite Nov 2022 #26

Imagine if we had the 50-state strategy going still. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #30

Define - specifically - what the "50 State Strategy" is that you think we don't have. brooklynite Nov 2022 #32

For your education: Gore1FL Nov 2022 #50

I'm all for competing in every state, but again, money is limiting and some states are likely LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #105

Coulb be that...2018 we won because of Trump blowback. progressoid Nov 2022 #59

Dobbs did a lot of heavy lifting this election Sympthsical Nov 2022 #83

Yep. We are going to have to do some serious getting our shit together before 2024 progressoid Nov 2022 #106

I think that there WAS a 'red wave'... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #112

Wikipedia on the 50 state strategy worth a read LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #39

When we prioritized all 50 states under Dean it seemed to work pretty well. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #52

Yes. Unpopular wars, housing bubble burst, economy horrible, unemployment increasing. betsuni Nov 2022 #96

Dean invested money in State Party building brooklynite Nov 2022 #21

Then what changed after he left that made it all collapse? nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #22

When did "it all collapse"? brooklynite Nov 2022 #24

Interesting... relatedly in the Obama years we lost a lot of statehouses and now we are rightfully LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #40

When Dean left and they stopped the strategy. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #51

And you're saying they never started it again? brooklynite Nov 2022 #58

I can only assume you didn't bother to read the article I linked. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #62

Well, I'll assign blame to the Iowa Democratic Party bello Nov 2022 #20

And I can blame the Indiana Dem party for their anemic performance here lately LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #41

True, all of it Bettie Nov 2022 #55

This progressoid Nov 2022 #64

Why should voters have to get "excited" about a candidate? LisaM Nov 2022 #70

Leadership has many intangible assets bello Nov 2022 #87

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #95

You being cross at people won't help Democrats win elections. Mariana Nov 2022 #111

They need to take a few lessons from the Michigan Democratic Party. catbyte Nov 2022 #84

JHC: Neither CO, AZ, Pennsylvania, or AZ are :"flyover country" hlthe2b Nov 2022 #33

The OP was comparing "flyover country" against "coastal" brooklynite Nov 2022 #74

To which you pointed to these NON-Flyover states to counter accusation Dems didn't hlthe2b Nov 2022 #76

And your definition is? brooklynite Nov 2022 #78

I ansered that in my first reply to you. This is the typical definition used by political media hlthe2b Nov 2022 #81

"Iowa has not been seen as competitive in a number of years." progressoid Nov 2022 #71

Competitive as in: NONE of four House seats... brooklynite Nov 2022 #75

Regarding Wisconsin: Ron Johnson re-elected. Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #113

Yes. When Dean was Chair we didn't win every race either. brooklynite Nov 2022 #114

Thanks. Agree about how leadership are stuck on their ideas of "winnability" & "flyover country." ancianita Nov 2022 #8

I fear the barrage of emails requesting donations. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2022 #9

I hear you. Unfortunately. I don't count Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #10

I think there's only one person on this thread Bettie Nov 2022 #56

There are Rethuglicans who run unopposed -- WTAF? OMGWTF Nov 2022 #12

How much money would it take to make Iowa competitive? LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #13

Iowa native here Blappy Nov 2022 #18

Nailed it. Sogo Nov 2022 #42

It's a national problem, particularly acute in Iowa Blappy Nov 2022 #46

I totally agree. Sogo Nov 2022 #54

Thanks for trying to explain it Bettie Nov 2022 #23

Effective messaging can come from volunteers who know how to work the platforms FakeNoose Nov 2022 #25

Same happened in North Carolina. yardwork Nov 2022 #27

Reclaimed VA, NC? I don't think so. mwooldri Nov 2022 #28

IMHO KS Toronado Nov 2022 #29

Former Iowan, thanks for the post. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #31

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #98

We've discussed this before mountain grammy Nov 2022 #34

Theresa Greenfield raised $55 million in 2020 BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #35

Joni Ernst raised only $30 million by comparison. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #36

But the Koch bros super PAC spent a crap ton JT45242 Nov 2022 #47

My two oldest are probably going to get out Bettie Nov 2022 #53

Greenfield seems like a nice person Bettie Nov 2022 #57

That is a crucial point! druidity33 Nov 2022 #86

And we need to find a way to get a message out without Bettie Nov 2022 #93

LIKE republianmushroom Nov 2022 #37

Agree Missouri also jonstl08 Nov 2022 #38

You are correct moniss Nov 2022 #43

I don't think it's about the coasts iemanja Nov 2022 #44

Florida was also flyover country this cycle. That's an observation, not a complaint. hay rick Nov 2022 #45

I'm with you, Peacetrain. The DNC wrote off Montana, too, and Monica Tranel only lost our new House LaMouffette Nov 2022 #48

I don't know who said it, but I read it on DU JMCKUSICK Nov 2022 #49

Dean's 50-State Strategy BlueMTexpat Nov 2022 #60

And it was explained to you, in great detail Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #61

+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #99

Dr. Dean had a prescription for success. calimary Nov 2022 #63

And since then, Citizens United Bettie Nov 2022 #72

That's exactly how I remember it. Kid Berwyn Nov 2022 #80

This thread is a bitter pill to swallow but I'm thankful for the perspective. mahina Nov 2022 #66

I agree completely. lees1975 Nov 2022 #67

it felt like when Dean was gone, Democrats immediately wanted to burn what he did to the ground rurallib Nov 2022 #68

Yes, agreed Bettie Nov 2022 #94

"Trump's payments to farmers hit all-time high moondust Nov 2022 #69

Absofuckinglutely! UpInArms Nov 2022 #73

Fans of Dean's 50 State Strategy: the DNC send money to EVERY STATE EVERY MONTH brooklynite Nov 2022 #77

Let me first say that I know nothing about Iowa. I have never even been there. DFW Nov 2022 #82

Rob Sand rocks, I have been following him for several years. Celerity Nov 2022 #97

We met a couple of years before that article came out. DFW Nov 2022 #108

The state went for Obama, so what happened treestar Nov 2022 #85

Trump happened. Mariana Nov 2022 #89

Tom Harken was from Iowa. It definitely used to be a swing state. Tomconroy Nov 2022 #115

Hillary fought to the end to win in Iowa. StevieM Nov 2022 #88

And I remember a lot of criticism for her visit to Arizona. betsuni Nov 2022 #100

Which was particularly absurd since she was leading in the polls there for most of the race. (eom) StevieM Nov 2022 #107

Let's face it. JPPaverage Nov 2022 #90

Kick 🦵 Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #92

REdistricting has made many states difficult to get realy work done. Iowa Maps TigressDem Nov 2022 #101

Similar has happened in Florida AmBlue Nov 2022 #102

The RW propaganda machine is at work right now. How do you get through that noise? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #103

Democrats are not ignoring your so-called flyover country - the heartland of America. Economic Martin68 Nov 2022 #104

THANK YOU! betsuni Nov 2022 #110

A favorite lie of Sarah Palin and her Tea Party friends. Martin68 Nov 2022 #117