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Elie Mystal is destroying Merrick Garland [View all]

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Seems Like Elie Has Seen Some Of The "Just Be Patient" Posters On DU nt SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #1

The Just-Be-Patient Crew is all over Twitter. SMC22307 Jan 2023 #230

What a piece of shit. tritsofme Jan 2023 #2

You prefer Garland to Biden? iemanja Jan 2023 #6

Garland serves at the pleasure of the president. tritsofme Jan 2023 #11

Biden can't fire him now iemanja Jan 2023 #14

"Dragged his feet" brooklynite Jan 2023 #26

Well over a year (Trump) vs. less than two months (Biden). W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #28

Not about investigating, that's ongoing. Its about separation from political conflict of interest.nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #214

how is Elie Mystal wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #35

"Fox News: Biden did something wrong..." dchill Jan 2023 #157

He conflates the appointment of a special council with the existance of a criminal investigation. D23MIURG23 Jan 2023 #225

We get you're his number 1 fan iemanja Jan 2023 #77

+1000 we can do it Jan 2023 #179

Nonsense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #27

If it's the quickest way to bring it to a conclusion, why didn't he do it in Trump's case rather... W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #32

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #34

Because Biden's issue is minor. Trump's is much more complicated. tritsofme Jan 2023 #36

We agree, Biden's situation doesn't need a SC because its minor and not an SC this quickly either. uponit7771 Jan 2023 #59

No, it makes perfect sense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #63

That's being political on its face, something Garland said he wouldn't do. People who are doing ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #67

This is just nonsense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #71

If you absolutely want to damage a presidency and get 50% of the population...... jaxexpat Jan 2023 #149

That's a lot of words to say not much of anything. tritsofme Jan 2023 #165

This SC will put nothing important to rest as time will surely tell. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #170

Not sure what that is supposed to mean...but sure? tritsofme Jan 2023 #174

I agree with you. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #198

Yet the same solution to both iemanja Jan 2023 #86

They are completely different situations. This is not apples to apples. tritsofme Jan 2023 #89

You can't find a consistent argument iemanja Jan 2023 #94

Both cases call for a special counsel for different reasons. tritsofme Jan 2023 #96

That doesn't make sense. Trump's situation being much more complicated pnwmom Jan 2023 #175

It is for some people. we can do it Jan 2023 #180

a quick bdamomma Jan 2023 #176

It's times like this I wish I could rec replies. AllyCat Jan 2023 #191

The quickest way would be to say the President is fully cooperating iemanja Jan 2023 #83

that's exactly right.. agingdem Jan 2023 #121

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #137

Well stated, friend. 👍 ShazzieB Jan 2023 #194

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jan 2023 #33

President Obama nominated him for the SC and President Biden chose him as AG MichMan Jan 2023 #97

He may have been well qualified to be a SCOTUS justice iemanja Jan 2023 #100

To appease the GOP? Xoan Jan 2023 #112

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #203

I would like to think Garland Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #116

exactly-- that's the key problem LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #163

2 weeks after tRump transitioned from private citizen to prez candidate, SC appointed Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #209

AGs do NOT serve at the pleasure of their governors/POTUS AllTooEasy Jan 2023 #200

It is a statement of fact. tritsofme Jan 2023 #202

Elie is awesome. BComplex Jan 2023 #7

+1, I don't notice anyone pointing out where Elie is wrong uponit7771 Jan 2023 #31

+1 for Elie from me, too Dave says Jan 2023 #115

Yes, and he truly tells it like it is LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #164

I like bdamomma Jan 2023 #178

I always enjoy listening to Elie on Stephanie Miller markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #227

He's a frequent guest on MSNBC among other things, and a great guy Silent3 Jan 2023 #12

well said! BComplex Jan 2023 #122

I can't stand him. GoCubsGo Jan 2023 #15

Not surprised. Good example of why I only watch cable news tritsofme Jan 2023 #18

is he wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #29

Not just wrong. Seems to be just a grandstanding pundit. tritsofme Jan 2023 #40

Gotta drive subscribers to his substack AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #56

And ding ding ding! We have a winner! oldsoftie Jan 2023 #192

How is he wrong on the two months vs two years contrast? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #65

Why do you think it matters? tritsofme Jan 2023 #74

Not the question at hand, is Mystal wrong on the contrast of time it took for Garland to act? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #75

Congratulations you can count. Now tell us how it is relevant. tritsofme Jan 2023 #79

My question first, thx in advance uponit7771 Jan 2023 #84

What outstanding question are you awaiting an answer? lol tritsofme Jan 2023 #87

The one I asked before you asked about relevancy uponit7771 Jan 2023 #88

And I congratulated you on your ability to count days. tritsofme Jan 2023 #92

Your congragulations didn't answer the question, was Elie wrong? At this point I'll take this amount uponit7771 Jan 2023 #98

Perhaps not wrong, but definitely a non-sequitur tritsofme Jan 2023 #101

Justice delayed is justice denied. nt Gore1FL Jan 2023 #91

Rushing things along to please armchair pundits is just stupidity. tritsofme Jan 2023 #95

So he is moving too fast with Biden? Or is moving too fast with Trump stupid? Gore1FL Jan 2023 #123

They are moving at an appropriate pace in both cases. tritsofme Jan 2023 #127

In what way is high speed appropriate for Biden, but not for Trump? Gore1FL Jan 2023 #156

Trump's is a much more complex case, and they are stonewalling. tritsofme Jan 2023 #161

Also to please armchair lawyers learned in the law, and Twitter Court judges, who does that? Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #144

Mystal can accurately read a calendar Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #106

It's a terribly bad, illogical, no context Twitter post...and that's saying something. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #147

He's Wrong ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #135

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #142

Guess that makes me orangecrush Jan 2023 #105

Nah, sounds like just some schmuck looking for clicks. tritsofme Jan 2023 #107

For whatever it's worth... BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #181

Agree. Another Twitter nobody with no legal training and no sense of the rule of law. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #131

Actually he's a lawyer padah513 Jan 2023 #193

no legal training? Skittles Jan 2023 #201

He is a lawyer Meowmee Jan 2023 #204

Stand corrected. Must have been on the ganga then? Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #231

You ought to find out before you call him a piece of shit!!! Grins Jan 2023 #183

Thing is, if Garland doesn't appoint now... Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #3

Spoiler alert: they're going to do that anyway. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #8

Exactly! Silent3 Jan 2023 #16

Not about RW outrage. About 2 weeks after tRump declared & 2 weeks after sitting Prez docs found Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #211

Appointing SC is the right thing. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #52

Biden won't be guilty of a crime and it won't shut them up. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #60

No, but it will make their BS much less believable. n/t whathehell Jan 2023 #169

What was done to Hillary speaks volumes, and as for the argument that a SC will speed things up, JohnSJ Jan 2023 #210

Exactly, and they will be screaming for an indictment Bettie Jan 2023 #212

It's not about RW outrage. It's about separation from political conflict of interest Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #213

That will ***NOT*** shut them up, it didn't for HRC and it wont for Biden or Obama or any other uponit7771 Jan 2023 #90

Nothing will shut them up so its a moot point onetexan Jan 2023 #128

Garland DID do the right thing. summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #199

Sigh, MAGA will do that no matter what. Why do some still think MAGA are sane ?! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #37

Who cares if MAGA are insane? They are NAZIs. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #43

No, they won't. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #58

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #205

100% disagree !! The narrative is already out there that Biden is **NOT** on the up and up when ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #73

Cable news will ensure that most people only hear Bettie Jan 2023 #82

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #143

and he didn't even wait two years iemanja Jan 2023 #4

I agree with everything he has said here. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #5

1000% agree. Ridiculous. TomDaisy Jan 2023 #9

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #38

we have zero to worry about here folks GenXer47 Jan 2023 #10

Yet in Garland's eyes ... Xoan Jan 2023 #113

Oh, wow. Nice thought Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #148

Eli is acting like a fool. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #13

Agreed. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #21

It's scary how many on our side parrot the same talking points from the right... Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #30

There are clear differences here. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #53

No there isn't. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #126

Trump obstructing justice and potentially violating the Espionage Act gldstwmn Jan 2023 #188

It's too late to fire him now Meowmee Jan 2023 #206

I agree. We're stuck with him. And yes, he was a terrible choice. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #224

Agree Meowmee Jan 2023 #229

Agreed. Mystal can be funny, but he often overlooks facts Qutzupalotl Jan 2023 #22

Like the fact that Garland wasn't AG in Jan. 2021 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #25

That doesn't negate Mystal's message that Garland did call for a SC the millisecond he became AG ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #44

I've never heard that Garland knew about the docs in Jan 2021 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #45

Newrepublic uponit7771 Jan 2023 #64

Your source for Elie Mystal's assertion that Garland knew about the docs in 1/21 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #76

Tori Otten wrote the article I linked uponit7771 Jan 2023 #81

And the only reference to Garland knowing about the documents in 1/21 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #104

I'll also say that investigations of a sitting pres are much different than a citizen. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #23

In regards to timing of counsel how is Elie Mystal wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #39

"I don't care" about the reason why a special counsel shouldn't be appointed is what you are saying. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #41

" Trump would not even be under investigation now" 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 THIS !!! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #69

Wasn't one of the reasons Garland was picked temporary311 Jan 2023 #17

Mike Lee of Utah recommended Garland to President Obama. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #42

👍 Xoan Jan 2023 #114

I said this very thing in a post months newdayneeded Jan 2023 #158

Yes Meowmee Jan 2023 #207

If Eli is correct them why did Obama select Garland malaise Jan 2023 #19

Because he was trying to give the Pukes someone they could vote for. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #24

And look how well that worked. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #48

THIS n/t malaise Jan 2023 #72

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #78

You could say the same for other things in the Obama presidency as well. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #80

Obama was a great president, but Bettie Jan 2023 #93

You are right on the money. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #102

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #228

Because Moscow wasn't going to approve anyone President Obama nominated. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #119

Agree Meowmee Jan 2023 #208

Bingo. Justice matters. Jan 2023 #54

What is this nonsense even supposed to mean? tritsofme Jan 2023 #155

Mitch McConnell blocked Garland's appointment to the Supreme Court. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #195

Garland was recommended to Obama by Orrin Hatch. Earth-shine Jan 2023 #61

Because Obama tried to get a moderate that Republicans were ok with Marius25 Jan 2023 #140

I sometimes like what Mystal says, but in this case he's wrong. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #20

The DOJ was investigating missing docs in house when Garland became AG? Thx in advance, my ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #50

The FBI is still part of the DOJ. They have been investigating as a security issue grantcart Jan 2023 #111

Elie Mystal is harshly criticizing Merrick Garland. Mister Ed Jan 2023 #46

At the very least I expected "eviscerating" Shrek Jan 2023 #57

Click bait culture. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #109

Which is essentially ether in the Twitter wind. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #133

The only thing he got wrong..... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #47

+1, ... also, couldn't an SC be called for Benedict Donald when Garland became AG? My understanding uponit7771 Jan 2023 #55

We learned that it IS possible MOMFUDSKI Jan 2023 #49

An important fact that everyone is missing. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #51

Spoiler alert: W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #62

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #66

Completely wrong and unsupported by anything other than speculation. Garland has the rule of law. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #136

Another possibility (re: criminal activity). Justice matters. Jan 2023 #68

+1, I'm praying this is the outcome ... reasoning for supporting Garland grows thinner and thinner uponit7771 Jan 2023 #70

The fact is, we don't know and Garland is not going anywhere (else). Justice matters. Jan 2023 #99

+1 orangecrush Jan 2023 #108

Do you think this trump backing newdayneeded Jan 2023 #160

Garland is a republican. nuff said. NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #85

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #118

That's a lie. Which makes you a liar. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #129

Really? When he was selected he was considered on the moderate/ conservative lean NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #132

A 'moderate' Democrat is not a Republican. So yeah, it is ----a lie---- to say he is a Republican. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #134

I also recall many of us unhappy he was Obama's choice. NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #154

He's still NOT A REPUBLICAN. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #177

What? Show us otherwise. I always thought it was understood that Garland is a Republican LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #168

See #218 (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #219

Yep, he really is! Emile Jan 2023 #130

Compelling argument...but so is Liz Cheney, etc. etc...not to mention generalized to the extreme. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #138

And I agree with her on only one thing NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #153

This is a lie. tritsofme Jan 2023 #159

If that were true, then his Court of Appeals vote wouldn't have had 23 Reps against, and 0 Dems muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #218

I don't think it is that simple, particularly if Garland was an Obama appointee LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #232

Garland was considered to be the most conservative of the various candidates Obama considered for LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #233

Thank you - I think that clears it up - not a Republican (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #235

No, it's not evidence for him being a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #234

Something tells me Garland doesn't GAF what Mystal thinks. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #103

Yes, ofc he doesn't. That anyone thinks he does is delusional. Mystal is Twitter ranting...to Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #141

IMHO DU was just looking for an excuse to have a meltdown. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #146

Be careful, there are some on du who think Garland is THE MAN!, Untouchable yaesu Jan 2023 #110

I think it's safe to say we are now Meowmee Jan 2023 #117

I'm done with Garland's ass. It took him almost 2 years to do something about a COUP ffs! ecstatic Jan 2023 #120

He is rt to criticize. Snackshack Jan 2023 #124

Argument ad populum Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #226

After reading through this thread, I can only say.. infullview Jan 2023 #125

Yeah I am sure Garland feels 'destroyed' by Elie Mystal. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #139

He does not look "destroyed" & is still employed Hekate Jan 2023 #145

When DU isn't over-reacting, it isn't DU. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #150

Yup Hekate Jan 2023 #151

Yes bdamomma Jan 2023 #182

Yup. GoCubsGo Jan 2023 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author DashOneBravo Jan 2023 #152

How so? Beastly Boy Jan 2023 #162

And the reason we are supposed to care what Elie Mystal thinks is? Kaleva Jan 2023 #166

Well. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #167

I agree somewhat, but Catherine Vincent Jan 2023 #171

Merrick Garland has been called to serve under Presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #172

I'd wager that most would prefer him to Garland at this point. iemanja Jan 2023 #184

I sorry if i don't understand, but OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #185

Let's start with Joe Biden iemanja Jan 2023 #186

MKay OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #189

And one has shown himself to execute those obligations exceedingly poorly. iemanja Jan 2023 #190

Garland came to Obama highly recommended ... Earth-shine Jan 2023 #196

Senator Orrin Hatch was for Garland. Jesus Emile Jan 2023 #220

Got it. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #222

Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #173

Interesting e-mails to say the least. republianmushroom Jan 2023 #187

The one area I disagreed with Obama. Dustlawyer Jan 2023 #215

I think he knew no nominee was getting approved News Junkie Jan 2023 #216

Garland is a huge fuckng disappointment, so scared of R's he throws Ds under the bus. lark Jan 2023 #217

I think the term "destroyed" is overstating just a bit.. :) n/t msfiddlestix Jan 2023 #221

The winners in all of this are the lawyers Mosby Jan 2023 #223